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I am dieing from the artemisinin overdose..I am getting worse everyday and dont know how long I will live..this is no joke...im scared..why my.. eric
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Dave6002
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You may have other on-going problem, go to ER and have a fully checkup may find out the problem.
I really doubt it's arte.
This will pass.
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I repeat-if this is an emergency -hang up and call 911.
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I have been to the emergency room two time already this week..there is nothing they can do...they dont know about art...the bad sideeffects of the art happened to me and I am trying to find a way to stop it..I have exatly what is stated on an overdose..and it is permanent..but it is still getting worse..I cant breath because of the neuological function has seased.... eric
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HEY IGLOO BOY....
You're making yourself have a panic attack...stop it right now!
Breath into a bag or something and try to relax.
The next time you go to the emergency room...don't tell them squat....except your symptoms....
LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT!
IT makes them feel better....trust me on this.
You come in there spouting about taking an over the counter alternative medicine and they don't want to touch you with a ten foot pole....
They would be afraid to help cuz they don't know if it will hurt you cuz they don't know what artimisinin does....or lyme for that matter.....
Just go in and tell them what hurts or whatever....LET THEM DETERMINE what's going on....
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z man I have alot of severe neuro problems that are not like lyme..lyme was a picknik in the park..art has damage my entire nervous system...I was there already and they say they cant do anything..so here I am stuck..over a stupid herb eric
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if the emerg. room is not helping you, then call or see a naturopath, or a chinese medicine doc. get them on the phone, if you have to.
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i have done that at dr zangs..he said to take his products..that it was all part of a herx..I dont know if I agree with him..I can start his protocol and see what happens when I add the lower version of art... eric
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Hi Polar, I know your are scared, I would be too. But I do not know if you are stuck or doomed forever, nor would I assume it, nor would I throw in the towel without trying something despite allopathic's lack of knowledge about this.
First off, there is no way you can accurately attribute your symptoms to the art, because they could be a co-infection. Inability to breathe can be babs and.or lyme.
Have you called your llmd?
If it is neural damage, there are several things I would try:
1. omega 3 's
2. b supplements, including b 12, folic, b6: I use a base multi b, and add sublingual methyl-b, sublingual b-6, and folic acid. I dose more than what they say on bottles, but used the guidelines from "life extension" (do a google for that), recommendations from book in "4" below, and also googled diabetic neuropathy for supplements, nutrition, etc. to set up my own schedule.
3. find mushroom "lion's mane" Do a search here for possible suppliers. New Chapter has a mixture for supposed neural repair
4. go online to amazon or half.ebay.com (books) to find used copy of "Nutrients for Neuropathy" (this was recommended by a poster here, eons ago).
5. See if you can find a ND to guide you through this, and of course, consult then, with doctor to let them know.
Perhaps also you can try to find an accupuncturist to help open channels within body. Or a good chiro/nd. The body is really strange and I am always amazed at what these practitioners can do to my symptoms....especially a good chiro/nd who works with fascia and muscles.
And, I have read that it does take a while for the body to heal with neural damage. If people can come back from strokes, etc., then there is always hope.
Be patient, but always try, always seek, always learn.
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polar
Everyone is giving you good advice, especially z-man about what to say to doctors.
Frankly, you sound mental at this point, which is definitely due to your illness. However, it does mean you can't trust your own judgement at this time. Decide if you want to seek allopathic help (regular doctors) or integrative care with doctors who understand art. Then go to the doctor you choose and trust their judgement over yours. Right now you just have to trust others more than yourself. Dr Zhang has an excellent reputation.
Good luck. I'm praying for you. You CAN GET BETTER!! If you are a believer, pray that God will lead you to the right doctors and then put your trust in God's desire to help you.
Sometimes we all just have to lean on others.
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I am not mental..I have had a reaction to overdose of artemisisnin and I have alot of the symptoms on the overdose chart..that is why I keep posting... eric
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my symptoms are flushing red body and face..weird sensations from the back of the head..blood pressure that is very irratic and uncontrolled and fast heart beat upon exertion...inabilty to feel pain..lung problems when sleeping they just turn off..cant feel the reflexes that I used to have when holding breath..it is not there to tell me to breath..change of feelings in the nerves ..cant run becasue of the lung and heart issue..also high blood pressure..hard to think and etremely sensitive to loud noise and startle responce..head feels like it is not even on my head..tingling everywhere..all of this started when stopping artemisinin...so they way I look at it is inlne with the toxic info I have read... so now what?
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Baths? - colon cleanse? - heck even maybe charcoal pills (they pull out and absorb)???
Charcoal is what they use when someone overdoses.
I'm just making suggestions here, please check with the doc about trying the charcoal or anything else.
It's worth a try.
PS....when you go to the ER what do they say about your breathing and heart rate, I would think if either is off the charts they would admit YOU????? Do you ask for your readings?
And if and when you went and you told them you can't breath - didn't they offer some form of help with that - such as inhaler or meds to open you?
Did they do a blood gas? If so what was the number? What is your blood pressure?
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Where are you in New York? PM me. If your body functions are somewhat shut down from excess toxicity, hyperbaric oxygen treatments, just a few, short term, should restore you. I know of a mild chamber in the Bronx and the chiropractor there is really nice and doesn't charge much. I know Julia in New Jersey has a secrest chamber and treats lymies. Up past Brewster there is the Feingold center.
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Julia would take him in a heart beat!
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Hi Polorblast
I am sorry to hear you are feeling so sick. If it where me I would call my LLMD & tell him/her how you feel. Maybe you can lower your dose or take a short break.
Please promise to call. And hope you can feel better soon
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hyperbarricks?you think it would help..I have done it before..how do I pm you.. eric
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yes autonomic dysfunction cause by the art...what to do now and will it get worse.. eric
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all the symptoms you listed were ones I experienced, including the "forgetting to inhale".....and I did not take the art.
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the correct term is drepressed respiration..and it feels like the lungs dont get enough air and they feel funny.. also when sleeping the lungs will not fill with air and I will gasp..all night long.. eric
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Not sure how far Basking Ridge is from you - but it's worth a try and worth the trip - I think.
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Please listen to Lyme Ed. He knows what he is talking about.
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Last time you posted about going to the emergency room though you said you slept like a baby-so what is it? Home-frantic and scared? ER-sleeping like a baby?
Your posts are not making sense to me- I was also under the impression you had stopped the ART days, weeks ago?
It's okay to ask for advice on Lymenet but all the different responses will just keep you head spinning.
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I am not taking art...it was given to me by dr zang nut I dare not touch it... eric
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I agree with you about the charcoal - it's what they use for overdoses and such.
Weeks ago I took it myself along with a colon cleanse and boy it made a differance and QUICK - like in 2 days.
I was having under the skin itching from yeast in blood stream (nothing was working) so I backed off everything (I'm not on meds for lyme) but I mean supplements and just took the ride to detox some ...and whamo it worked!
No side effects either and you can by this stuff at any local health food store.
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Try the charcoal ...it will help draw some of this out! Along with it take something to move the bowels.
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eric,
I understand your fears. But I really don't think an online support group is the best place to get help at this point. I believe you need to see a doctor who understands your condition.
This has been going on for weeks, and it seems you have the same concerns and get the same advice. So something is not working.
Can you see Dr. Z again? He understands art and I would think be able to give you something to help you detox.
If you are really scared you are going to die, you need to take action. I personally don't think it's a good idea to start playing around with herbs you don't understand if you had such a bad reaction to art. I think you need to work under the supervision of a specialist.
If not Dr. Z, then find another doctor that can help you.
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Polar, if you can't figure out how to PM just post here where you live (i.e. Manhattan, or Syracuse, or whatever--not your street address, just town). If you live in the city or nearby I'll give you the name of a chiro with a mild hyperbaric chamber. It'll normalize your function and repair your nervous system. It's very tolerable and you probably won't herx from it. Its very good for these kinds of situations.
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Dont take anymore. And trust that you will not get ANY WORSE. I know its hard to handle at the moment. Slow down for a moment.....center yourself.....breath slow. Now...tell me...what area are u in...where do u live? I agree with a previous poster...if you go to the ER again...dont tell them what YOU think is happening next time. Let them..just tell them how u feel. Thats what your insurance is for....for help. Keep us posted pls. You are going to be ok.
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