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Its sort of like accupuncture but you are basically shocked and are tested while being shocked or something like that, heck I am will to walk on fire right now. But I dont want to give up my diet coke.
Doc did say it was not good for me and I should quit, but that he would not make me during my Lyme treatment......another point in his favor...
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I don't know what kind of procedure you are describing, but as for the coke thing.....
Okay, okay as part of my 7 step recovery program I must admit that I am a Coke-addict. (The drink, not the drug).
It was not unusual for me to easily consume 4-5 regular cokes a day, with a Large Coke Icee on top.
Didn't really drink anything else.
Prior to being dx, and being very ill and having only the strength to walk from one room to another, my blood sugar went up.
Not in the diabetic range, but high enough to be noted.
I felt like I was constantly having low blood sugar, shakey like....so, I'd have some coke.
Guess what? Very hard transition, but I have given them up. Along with adjusting to a low carb diet.
Now, I consume water all day long. I really like water now.
The first two weeks are the hardest, but start small. Give up one, then two, etc..
You may crave them initially, but that goes away.
Good luck.
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quote:Originally posted by yourtroubl: Its sort of like accupuncture but you are basically shocked and are tested while being shocked or something like that...
The only thing I can think of is an EMG (Electromyogram). It is a nerve conduction test to test the nerve's ability to transmit it's signals and assess any damage. A painful, but accurate test.
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Oh, Oh Geneal. You are such a lightweight...My husbands best friend works for Coke we get 72 20 oz bottles every week. Sometimes we have to get extra on Wednesday because we are out before delivery.....
I mean everyone knows that if there is a diet cok around I am close by. Good thing is we have gotten 200 dollars in Blockbuster money this year.
I need a 12-15 step program.....then I am not certain. I may need in house treatment.
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quote:Originally posted by yourtroubl: Its sort of like accupuncture but you are basically shocked and are tested while being shocked or something like that...
The only thing I can think of is an EMG (Electromyogram). It is a nerve conduction test to test the nerve's ability to transmit it's signals and assess any damage. A painful, but accurate test.
Its not covered by insurance...so could this be it. Painful...I am not sure I like the sound of that.
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Thanks Yourtroubl,
I like the sound of being a light weight. If I had known a coca-cola distributor, I may have been able to compete.
Glad you had a productive day. What would be the diagnostic point of this test? What is the doctor trying to confirm or refute?
I am just asking as I am unfamiliar with it (Thank goodness judging from the pain responses).
Have a great evening.
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Maybe he is talking about digital imaging. It is not painful. They send small amounts of electricity through certain acupuncture points.
And it tells the Drs about what stage youre diseases are at and what medicines can help you.
My LLMD has a homeopathic Dr he works in conjuncture with, and I just had this done last week.
They adjust your treatment according to the results.
quote:Originally posted by tanzi2u: It is a nerve conduction test to test the nerve's ability to transmit it's signals and assess any damage. A painful, but accurate test.
It's a painful test usually used to help dx MS. IF it were ME, I would skip it. It's not going to tell you much. [I am NOT a dr...just my opinion.]
Aspartame.....VERY BAD mix with Lyme. You'd almost be better off quitting the diet Coke than the smoking!
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Aspartame (diet coke)can actually cause lyme symptoms and death!
You want to start feeling better GET OFF THE ASPARTAME!!!!!!!!
Read this and you'll never touch the stuff again! Sorry its so long but I lost the links and just had them in my files..... And I have way more.
Toxicity Effects of Aspartame Use and the usage can cause panic attacks. Selection of Health Effects from Short-term and/or Long-Term Use Note: It often takes at least sixty days without *any* aspartame or NutraSweet to see a significant improvement. Check all labels very carefully (including vitamins and pharmaceuticals). Look for the word "aspartame" on the label and avoid it. (Also, it is a good idea to avoid "acesulfame-k" or "sunette.") Finally, avoid getting nutrition information from junk food industry PR organizations such as IFIC or organizations that accept large sums of money from the junk and chemical food industry such as the American Dietetic Association.
Blood Sugar Control Problems (Hypoglycemia or Hyperglycemia)
Menstrual Problems or Changes
Impotency and Sexual Problems
Craving for Food
Weight Gain
Hair Loss (Baldness) or Thinning of Hair
Burning Urination
Excessive Thirst or Hunger
Bloating, Edema (Fluid Retention)
Infection Susceptibility
Joint Pains
Brain Cancer (Pre-approval studies in animals)
Death
Aspartame Disease Mimics Symptoms or Worsens the Following Diseases Fibromyalgia
Arthritis
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
Parkinson's Disease
Lupus
Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS)
Diabetes and Diabetic Complications
Epilepsy
Alzheimer's Disease
Birth Defects
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Lymphoma
Lyme Disease
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)
Panic Attacks
Depression, Panic attacks and other Psychological Disorders The truth about aspartame's toxicity is far different than what the NutraSweet Company would have your readers believe. In February of 1994, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released the listing of adverse reactions reported to the FDA (DHHS 1994).
Aspartame accounted for more than 75% of all adverse reactions reported to the FDA's Adverse Reaction Monitoring System (ARMS). Many reactions to aspartame were very serious including seizures and death. In an epidemiological study which appeared in the Journal of Applied Nutrition (Roberts 1988), 551 persons who have reported reactions to aspartame were surveyed. What follows is a listing of the adverse health effects which were found.
Two-thirds of the population and 40% of the children in this country are using products with aspartame (NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Canderel, Benevia, E951, etc.). It is a neurotoxic drug, a deadly chemical poison, and masquerading as an additive. The 50% phenylalanine in it as an isolate is neurotoxic and goes directly into the brain.
It lowers the seizure threshold and depletes serotonin. When you lower serotonin it triggers manic depression or bipolar, mood swings, anxiety, SUICIDAL TENDENCIES, panic attacks, paranoia, hallucinations, etc. It also interacts with ALL antidepressants. In fact, it interacts with just about every drug used to treat the problems it causes. This is all discussed in the huge medical text, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic by H. J. Roberts, M.D.
Aspartame affects the following:
Eyes #of people %of people Decreased Vision and/or other eye problems 140 25% Pain one or both eyes 51 9% Decreased Tears 14 8% Blindness (one or both eyes) 14 3%
Neurological #of people %of people Headaches 249 45% Dizziness, unsteadiness, or both 217 39% Confusion, memory loss, or both 157 29% Severe drowsiness and sleepiness 93 17% Parenthesis (tingling or numbness) 82 15% Convulsions 80 15% Petit mal attacks and "absences" 18 3% Severe slurring of speech 64 12% Severe tremors 51 9% Sever "hyperactivity" and "restless legs" 43 8% Atypical facial pain 38 7%
Skin and Allergies #of people %of people Severe itching without a rash 44 8% Severe lip and mouth reactions 29 5% Uticaria (hives) 25 5% Other eruptions 48 9% Aggravation of respiratory allergies 10 2%
Endocrine and Metabolic #of people %of people Problems with diabetes: loss of control 60 11% Menstrual Changes 45 6% Severe reduction or cessation of periods 22 1% Paradoxical weight gain 34 5% Marked weight loss 26 6% Marked thinning or loss of hear 32 6% Aggravated hypoglycemia 25 5%
Other #of people %of people Frequent urination, burning 69 13% Excessive thirst 65 12% Severe joint pain 58 11% Bloating 57 10% Fluid retention and leg swelling 20 4% Increased Susceptibility to infection 7 1%
Aspartame -- History of Fraud and Deception
Today we have "Nutra-Sweet", which is widely used in a plethora of consumables, despite a demonstrated neurological reaction in some people. In February 1996, it was decided to also use the product name "Benevia". It is estimated that as many as 20,000,000 people cannot metabolize phenylalimine, and this inability is genetically inherited by children.
The inability to metabolize phenylalinine can lead to mental retardation in children. This means a risk of retardation for millions of children. A multi-billion dollar enterprise, this substance is said to be "refined" from "natural"substances. Like other "refined" substances, it represents a health threat to the general public. No long term studies have been performed to evaluate the physiological effects of this substance, yet the public is lead to believe it is absolutely safe.
Technically, the chemical is called aspartame, and it was once on a Pentagon list of biowarfare chemicals submitted to Congress. [1] Aspartame is in over 4,000 products worldwide and is consumed by over 200 million people in the United States alone. What follows is a skeletal examination of the chronology related to aspartame. A more detailed chronology is given later in this chapter based on information provided to us by the Aspartame Consumer Safety Network.
Aspartame is produced by G.D. Searle Company, founded in 1888 and located in Skokie, Illinois. Searle is now owned by others. It is about 200 times sweeter than the refined sugar that it is meant to replace, and it is known to erode intelligence and affect short-term memory. It is essentially a chemical weapon designed to impact populations en masse. It is an rDNA derivative made from two amino acids, L-phenylalanine, L-aspartic acid and methanol. Originally discovered during a search for an ulcer drug in 1966, it was "approved" by the FDA in 1974 as a "food additive".
Approval was followed by a retraction based on demonstrated public concern over the fact that the substance produced brain tumors in rats. According to the 1974 FDA task force set up to examine aspartame and G.D.Searle, "we have uncovered serious deficiencies in Searles operations and practices, which undermine the basis for reliance on Searle's integrity in conducting high quality animal research to accurately determine the toxic potential of its products."
The task force report concluded with the recommendation that G.D. Searle should face a Grand Jury "to identify more particularly the nature of the violations, and to identify all those responsible." [2]
In 1976, an FDA "task force" brought into question all of G.D. Searle's aspartame testing procedures conducted between 1967 and 1975. The final FDA report noted faulty and fraudulent product testing, knowingly misrepresented product testing, knowlingly misrepresented findings, and instances of irrelevant animal research.
In other word, illegal criminal activity. Understandably scared, Searle officials sought to suppress the FDA findings and obstruct justice. They turned to Nixon and Ford administration operative Donald Rumsfeld and elected him "chairman of the Searle organization." In 1977, the Wall Street Journal detailed the fact that Rumsfeld made efforts to "mend fences" by asking "what Searle could do" in the face of the changes.
Also in 1977, Dr. Adrian Gross, a pathologist working for the FDA, uncovered evidence that G.D.Searle might have committed criminal fraud in withholding adverse data on aspartame. [3]
The FDA requested that U.S. Attorney Samuel Skinner be hired to investigate Searle's aspartame testing procedures in January 1977. Samuel Skinner was the federal prosecutor responsible for convincing the Grand Jury to investigate whether Searle willfully and criminally withheld data that cast doubt on the safety of aspartame.
In February 1977, Skinner met with Searle attorneys at the Chicago law firm of Sidney & Austin. Suddenly, newly elected President Carter announced that Skinner would not remain in office, and Skinner thereafter announced that he would be hired by Sidney & Austin. Obviously, Skinner then had to recuse himself from the Searle prosecution.
The case was taken over by U.S. Attorney William Conlon, who essentially sat on the case, despite complaints from the Justice Department, which was urging that a grand jury be convened to prosecute Searle Company for falsifying Nutra-Sweet test data. Failing to preform his duty, Conlon also joined Searle's law firm in January 1979.
Skinner's defection from the FDA might have been prompted by the results of the review of the Searle studies. David Hattan, deputy director of the FDA Division of Toxicological Review and Evaluation, concedes that anyone reading the orginal FDA investigation reports is likely to be "shocked" by what they reveal. He says that the ensuing review of the Searle studies, in which he was involved from the time of his arrival in 1978, was one of the most thorough in the agency's history.
It included an unprecedented hearing before a public board of inquiry composed of experts from outside the agency. Arthur Hayes, Jr., then Commissioner of the FDA appointed by Reagan, agreed with Searle and the FDA's Bureau of Foods (now the Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition) that "an appropriate analysis of the data showed no significant increases in tumor incidence in rats exposed to aspartame or DKP, one of the breakdown products of aspartame. The board of inquiry rejected concerns that aspartame's components could cause neurological damage.[4]
In 1981, under pressure from the soft drink lobby, FDA Commissioner Hayes approved the initial use of aspartane in dry foods and as a tabletop sweetner, discounting public complaints as anecdotal and ignoring three FDA scientists.[5] who voiced the fact that there were serious questions concerning brain tumor tests after having done an in-house study.
Hayes was widely profiled as a man who believed that approval for new drugs and additives was "too slow" because "the FDA demanded too much information." Hayes also ignored the fact that the biased scientific studies paid for by Searle were faulty.[6] After leaving the FDA, Hayes took the post of senior medical consultant for the public relations firm retained by Searle..[7] A subsequent inquiry "found no improprieity".
In July 1983 it was approved for use in soft drinks in the United States, followed three months later by approval in Britain by the Ministry of Agriculture. All this was done despite the fact that the Department of Defense knew that aspartane was neurotoxic and harmful to human health. These facts were deliberately suppressed by the government.
It is also interesting that in 1981 FDA scientist Dr. Robert Condon, in an internal government document, said "I do not concur that aspartame has been shown to be safe with respect to the induction of brain tumors." All safety was thrown aside because of pressure from Searle. Considering the connections the drug companies have to the medical and intelligence community, it would not be surprising that there were other factors involved in the pressure to adopt aspartame into the diet of the population.
In 1984, the Arizona Department of Health began testing soft drinks to ascertain the level of toxic deterioration by-products in soft drinks. It was determined that soft drinks stored in elevated temperatures promoted more rapid deterioration of aspartame into poisonous methyl alcohol (methanol).
The FDA decided to ignore these results. Public complaints about the effects of aspartame began to come in. People complained of headaches, dizziness, vomiting, nausea, blurred vision, seizures, convulsions and a host of other reactions to aspartame.
Also in 1984, the Centers for Disease Control made the fraudulent announcement that "no serious, widespread" side effects of aspartame had been found. It was an outright lie, and this announcement was quickly followed by another from PepsiCo that it was dropping saccharin and adopting aspartame as the sweetener it all its diet drinks. Others followed suit, despite the January 1984 broadcast on CBS Nightly News where the chief scientist for the FDA task force investigating Searle publicly stated that Searle company officials made "deliberate decisions" to cloak aspartame's toxic effects.
When a human consumes "Nutra-Sweet", it breaks down above 85� not only into its constituent amino acids, but into methanol, which further breaks down into formaldehyde, which is carcinogenic[8] and very toxic, as well as formic acid and a brain tumor agent called diketopiperazine (DKP). In a meek attempt to ward off further public inquiry, the FDA in 1984 announced that "no evidence has been found to establish that aspartame's methanol by-product reaches toxic levels".
This was a direct lie, since Medical World News reported in 1978, six years earlier, than the methanol content of aspartame is 1,000 times greater than most foods under FDA control. Furthermore, the methanol in aspartame is "free methanol", which is never found in nature. Methanol in nature is always accompanied by ethanol and other compounds which mitigate the methanol when introduced into the body.
In 1985, Searle Company was bought by Monsanto, the maker of other insidious substances that manage to find their way into human food, including Bovine Growth Hormone (BGH). Senator Metzenbaum, commenting on the FDA relative to the aspartame issue in 1985 said, "the FDA is content to have Searle conduct all safety tests on aspartame. That's absurd."
Supreme Court Collusion in Aspartame Coverup Clarence Thomas Former Monsanto Lawyer
In 1986, the Washington Post reported that the Supreme Court refused to consider arguments that the FDA had not followed proper procedures in approving aspartame, despite arguments that the product "may cause brain damage." (Supreme Court obstructing Justice). Since Bush-nominated Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is a former attorney for Monsanto [9],it is unlikely that hundreds of millions of people will find redress. There are also indications of ties between Monsanto and elements in the CIA.
University of Illinois Fraudulent Study on Aspartame
In August of 1987, the University of Illinois, a recipient of funding from Monsanto, issued a study "exonerating aspartame of causing seizures in laboratory animals." The fact that they were paid by Monsanto automatically invalidates the results. U.S. Senate hearings in 1987 showed that G.D.Searle used "psychological strategy" to get regulators at the FDA "into a yes-saying habit" to "bring them into a subconscious spirit of participation." .[10] More than half of 69 medical researchers polled by the FDA in 1987 said they were concerned about aspartame's safety.[11]
FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms
In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people who described adverse reactions. Because the FDA conveniently lists aspartane as a "food additive", it removes the legal requirement for adverse effect reporting to any Federal agency and the necessity for safety monitoring processes. Research also indicates that aspartame, when combined with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods) increase the likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.[12]
Aspartame Affecting Airline Pilots
Some of the more interesting developments in 1989 surfaced in the Palm Beach Post on October 14th, where an article by Dr. H.J. Robert described several recent aircraft accidents involving confusion and aberrant pilot behavior caused by ingestion of products containing aspartame.[13] Soft drink makers were notified of this problem in 1991. It is interesting to note that after Samuel Skinner left Sidney & Austin, Searle's law firm, he was appointed Secretary of Transportation. Hence, he was in charge of the FAA, just in time to head off complaints from pilots affected by aspartame.
His wife was employed by Sidney & Austin. Later as George Bush's Chief of Staff in 1991, during the Gulf War, he was in a position to head off all inquiries relative to asparatame, no matter where they were directed - to the FDA, FAA or Department of Defense. This constitutes criminal negligence and racketeering. George Bush, of course, was an ex-director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
British News: "Nutrasweet Tests Faked"
On July 20, 1990, an article in the national British newspaper The Guardian, entitled "NutraSweet test results `faked'", revealed that the British government had finally been persuaded to review the safety of aspartame after "receiving a dossier of evidence highlighting its potential dangers." According to The Guardian, the dossier alleged that laboratory tests were falsified, tumors were removed from laboratory animals and animals were `restored to life' in laboratory records.
[14] The dossier against NutraSweet was compiled by Erik Millstone, a lecturer at the Science Policy Research Unit at Sussex University and author of two books on food additives. It was based on thousands of pages of evidence, much of which was obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. The COT, Committee on Toxicity, was at the time looking into consumption of artificial sweeteners and did not possess the key documents covering alleged mishandling of the safety tests which Millstone was asked to provide.
The British Ministry of Agriculture and Department of Health have never revealed the evidence upon which approval was given in England for the distribution of aspartame, maintaining that "these are matters of commercial confidence." The British government does not testing of its own but relies on safety tests provided by the manufacturer, which of course constitutes a conflict of interest.
The 1990 article quoted the British Department of Health as saying "NutraSweet is not a health hazard on the available evidence, but people do suffer `ideosyncratic reactions' to food additives." Interestingly, it was pointed out that three out of 14 members of the Committee on Toxicity have direct or indirect links with the artificial sweetener industry, according to David Clark, the Labour Party Agriculture spokeman, who requested a Parliamentary Answer to address questions of conflict of interest. Aspartame is also sold in England under the product name "Canderel."
In 1990, the market for asparatame in England was estimated at �800 million.
Aspartame
Dosing of the Military in the Gulf War
During the 1991 Gulf War, all military personnel were provided free supplies of aspartame-laced soft drinks together with experimental vaccines, nerve gas antidotes and personal insecticides. They were also treated to direct biochemical warfare compounds. The result is Gulf War Syndrome, which is communicable and deadly, and 50,000 military personnel and their dependents are wasting away before our eyes. Criminal negligence? Of course. Criminal conspiracy? Yes. Genocide? Probably - we're waiting to see.
Aspartame Alters Brain Chemicals That Affect Behavior
Independent tests on animals have shown that aspartame alters brain chemicals that also affect behavior. The chemical nature of aspartame was also shown to defeat its own alleged "purpose" as a "diet aid", since high doses instill a craving for calorie-laden carbohydrates. Then, the aspartame-carbohydrate combination further increases the effect of aspartame on the brain.[15]
Fraudulent Claims of Aspartame as a "Diet Aid"
Interestingly, even the American Cancer Society confirmed that users of artificial sweeteners gained more weight than those who didn't use the products, further undermining the supposed "purpose" for the existence of aspartame in the food.[16] Haven't we heard this kind of criminal fraud before?
The major selling point of aspartame is as a diet aid, and it has been demonstrated that the use of this product actually causes people to consume more food. Normally, when a significant quantity of carbohydrate are comsumed, serotonin levels rise in the brain. This is manifested as a relaxed feeling after a meal. When aspartame is ingested with carbohydrates, such as having a sandwich with a diet drink, aspartame causes the brain to cease production of serotonin, meaning that the feeling of having had enough never materializes. You then eat more foods, many containing aspartame, and the cycle continues. Monsanto's profit from its NutraSweet Division was $993 million in 1990.
Governments Continue Suppression and Coverup on Aspartame
In 1991, the National Institutes of Health.[17] listed 167 symptoms and reasons to avoid the use of aspartame , but today it is a multi-million dollar business that contributes to the degeneration of the human population, as well as the deliberate suppression of overall intelligence, short-term memory[18] and the added contribution as a carcinogenic environmental co-factor. The FDA and the Centers for Disease Control continue to receive a stream of complaints from the population about aspartane.
It is the only chemical warfare weapon available in mass quantities (should keep the cone-heads happy) on the grocery shelf and promoted in the media. It has also been indicated that women with an intolerance for phenylalinine, one of the compoents of aspartame, may give birth to infants with as much as a 15% drop in intelligence level if they habitually consume products containing this dangerous substance.[19]
FAA Collusion in Suppression of Facts on Aspartame
The March 1995 issue of The Pacific Flyer published a pro-aspartame article in which it stated, "the Federal Aviation Administration conducted its own cognitive research and, according to experts, found no contraindications that would prevent pilots, or anyone, from ingesting aspartame."
This flies in the face of consistent reports from pilots who maintain they have suffered severe and dangerous repercussions in the air after drinking soft drinks containing aspartame. Virtually every time, symptoms disappeared when aspartame-laced drinks were discontinued.[20] Over 600 pilots have reported this problem.
FDA "Findings" on Aspartame Remain Based on Faked Tests
So, the faked Searle tests remain. The FDA bases its findings on the faked Searle tests, and the Journal of the American Medical Association, examining the FDA findings, based on the faked Searle tests, announced "the consumption of aspartame poses no health risk for most people." Searle officials argue that the use of aspartame as an artificial sweetener "has been officially approved not only by the FDA, but by foreign regulatory agencies and the World Health Organization" - based on Searle-sponsored aspartame research, not independently conducted tests.
Symptoms of Aspartame Intoxication: Minimal to Severe
The symptoms of aspartame intoxication include severe headaches, nausea, vertigo, insomina, loss of control of limbs, blurred vision, blindness, memory loss, slurred speech, mild to severe depression often reaching suicidal levels, hyperactivity, gastrointestinal disorders, seizures, skin lesions, rashes, anxiety attacks, muscle and joint pain, numbness, mood changes, loss of energy, menstrual cramps out of cycle, hearing loss or ringing in the ears, loss or change of taste, and symptoms similar to those in a heart attack. In addition, aspartic acid chelates (combines) with chromium - which is a necessary element for proper operation of the thyroid gland.
People who consume large quantities of aspartame may end up with a false diagnosis of Graves disease and suffer allopathic irradiation of their thyroid gland for no reason. Complaints about aspartame represent 80-85% of all food complaints registered with the FDA. More than 6,000 complaints have been made concerning the effects of aspartame.
Thirty independent doctors and scientists have conducted research on the adverse effects of aspartame or have compiled supporting data against its use.The use of NutraSweet� or Equal� should be seriously curtailed or stopped.
Aspartame Use Part of Planetary Biomedical Genocide
The fact that tons of aspartame is pumped into the world population each year, knowingly and deliberately, especially with the historical and documented record of fraud and misrepresentation, constitutes a conspiracy of the highest order, as well as criminal negligence. The rewards of continued use are increased profits for the medical and pharmaceutical industries and chemical companies who produce aspartame and treat people suffering from the effect of it.
Aspartame is the only biochemical warfare product on grocery shelves.
Aspartame is found in about 6000 products around the world, including: Carbonated soft drinks, Powdered soft drinks, 99% of Chewing gum, Confections Gelatins, Dessert mixes Puddings and fillings Frozen desserts Yogurt Tabletop sweeteners Pharmaceuticals such as vitamins and sugar-free cough drops. Antibiotics (childrens chewable amox)
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There's no little guy with fingers in his ears.
I finally found a doctor to treat me who actually seems to know what he is doing and says it would be too much for me to give up my diet coke thorough my recovery from Lyme, you guys think I am giving up on him; lol. He the man.
He did say something about the white stuff....I acted like I knew he meant sugar, bread and potatoes but I know he meant the stuff you snort and I dont do that so no problem.....
I am kidding. I have been cutting back. Been drinking more water and have been putting in more caffiene free drinks when drinking diet. I am a hard core addict.
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I drank diet soda for years and very little to no water. When I went off soda I had a major detox reaction so I do think going slow is the best option. Keep in mind that caffiene does affect blood sugar in a negative way AND actually causes dehydration!!
I had lost my thirst reflex simply because I didn't drink water. If you really want to understand the effects of lack of water, there is a great book written by a doctor called "Your Body's many Cries for Water". A lack of water alone can cause illness and it is also a cause for pain!
If you are serious about healing, WHY would you purposely put a DEADLY POISON in your body.. WHAT IS THE POINT?
This doctor is INSANE if he thinks you will get any better while still consuming Aspartame. You might as well add Arsenic into your diet, it might kill ya alittle faster...
Did you not read anything I wrote???
I have No patience for people doing things counteractive to the healing process.
Everyone has different opinions on how to get well and thats great.... different protcals what has helped what.... But these are ALL benefical to the body, and everyone on this broad is serious about getting well. But comsuming a poison and then complaining about the symptoms you get from it, well is just plain ignorant!
However, I realize its not the best thing for me but it as the doctor said is the only bad habit I have.....I eat healthy, despite weight gain, I dont drink, I dont smoke, or even go around those who do (I could tell you the truth about a smokers clothig too)...
I am trying. I was not going to lie and say I could go cold turkey and was trying to be a little casual about it. Sorry to offend. But thats ok I know its easy to have this disease and be offended. I feel like not posting here anymore because you were a butt to me. I might not. I know its wrong to feel that way but its how I feel.
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I'm sorry to be so abrupt with you.... I really don't feel well today and probably should be posting.... I have no patience at the moment (and I happen to be ill too).
With that said...
You will continue to gain weight because of the Aspartame it is a side effect. Also It is highly addictive, and you will have to detox from it.
I understand how difficult it is to get off of it (I was addicted to it too) But to say its your only bad habit and you want to continue using it makes no sence to me... Its like a person taking cocaine because it makes them feel good even though they know its bad for them.
YOU WILL NOT GET ANY BETTER NO MATTER WHAT YOU TAKE AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE TO TAKE IN A POISON.
I am not trying to upset you, but trying to get you to realize the importance of how your damaging your body.
If you want to continue consuming it, fine its none of my business.
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yourtrouble, I have TRIED to help you also. I didnt know you drank THAT much rat poison. Yes thats what it converts to at 86 degrees. That is NOT very warm.
Do you think all summer they air condition the trucks they bring it in??? Do you think store rooms are kept cooler??
Do they shade out the sun while it is being loaded and unloaded and on the truck??? If so you DO have a rude awakening to be certain.
Why do you think they have all that Gulf War syndrome after the first sand conflict over there. Get a clue,,,they took pallets of pop and didnt have anywhere but the 120-140* hot sun and sands to park them on,,,they said to the gi's,,drink,drink more,and more.
And it was hot,,,they drank and drank,,, THEY got aspertame poisoning,,,all the symptoms line up.
Now, not as fast,and not as dramatic,,,but you are getting the same thing from that 'diet' pop. Especially with a compromised immune system.
The government OUGHT to do something,its a proven fact,,but politics and funding as is,,they are bought and paid for,,,lobbied to the hilt. Everybody exceeds the limits, its head in the sand time. It is,its BAD!!! In government studies they dont account for those that drink ONLY diet pop,and zero water,,but millions do!!!
I have a friend also that is ALL they will drink,,,ZERO water,wont touch it!! Always in the hospital with dehydration and other ills and is disabled,,,see the parallell??? And cant convince otherwise!! SOOOOOO SAD!!!!
So either you are like the person diagnosed with lung cancer and still smoking,,,doctor says,IF you continue to smoke,,,call the undertaker NOT me!!!
IF you continue to drink the same as "rat poison" eventually it WILL kill you, it will,,,dont call us,,,better call your undertaker and make your funeral arrangements NOW,,,you will either quit that CRAP right NOW or call the undertaker,,,its THAT simple!!! Your choice!!, do as you see fit,,,
your doctor is a QUACK to say you shouldnt. Start today,make a plan,gradual is good. BUT get OFF it,,,SOON!!!!It is as bad as playing russian roulette,,,gonna play that game?? didnt think so,,,you dont sound suicital,but IF you dont quit,,,its the SAME THING!!!
I know doctors that drink and smoke like no tommorrow,,,would you think they are GOOD docs or ducks in disguise???Be well and get healthy and go see a REAL LLMD,,,ASAP!!!
Do you send your kids out to play in the street??? Aspertame in huge quanities is the same thing,,,period!! Its a ticking time bomb, set to explode at any moment,,,wanna risk it??? It might be okay for some,,,it might be okay for awhile,,,BUT it will get you,promise, KERBOOM!!!(too late)darn I tried--but remain--just don--
-------------------- just don Posts: 4548 | From Middle of midwest | Registered: May 2001
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Would you guys lighten up a bit? What we've said may take time to soak in for Trouble. It's not any different from Lyme patients consuming sugar and starches and thinking they are going to get well.
Removing negative foods from our diets is difficult....but doable. Give her time!
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Monica
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Most of us get pretty hysterical when we read about someone doing something that is definitely going to prevent them from getting better. Many of us have been suffering a very long time with this disease and just want to make sure that no one else has to experience what we have gone through.
You say you eat healthy. That's a good thing. Are you eating organic whenever possible and only eating foods that have been processed minimally?
Aspartame is bad news. I wish I had known that sooner.
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LisaS
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Man I think we all need to remember we come to this board for support! Yes we all have different opinions, but nobody could follow every rule listed on these boards.
Seriously it seems like to get better from Lyme + co-infections we need to change what we eat, what we drink, including alcohol, what meds we take, what vitamins, not to mention what brands, cuz God knows different companies might use glucose or yeast...
Its just impossible, we need to do the best we can but we are human. Diabetics slip up once in awhile and eat sugar... We Lymees are human too and need to give her a break. I hope you dont stop posting here.
I agree Aspartame is bad, I gave an article on it to my Mom who runs a retirement home... But what isnt bad to us?
TerryK
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I've learned over the years that one is better off to give the info and understand that it's up to each individual to decide for themselves how they will use it.
troubl - remember that people here care and that's why they feel strongly and talk strongly about aspartame and other issues. Don't let it make you feel bad or like you can't post. Take whatever info is supplied, do your own research, make your own decisions and know that we care.
I agree that aspartame is likely bad. I quit using it several years ago. Personally, I didn't notice any difference in my health since I was getting sicker at the time.
Take care and I hope you continue getting the valuable info that this list has to give. Terry
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