Topic: Thinning Hair - Could we potentially have mange mites and a corona virus - FIP?
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In 1997, I bought a kitten who, by the age of 1, began to lose fur.
For 2 months I treated the cat for fleas, even though I hadn't seen any, and when it did not resolve, I took him to the vet.
The vet checked him for FIV (feline aids) and feline leukemia and took a skin biopsy.
Both blood tests were negative, but since the skin biopsy showed demodex mites, my vet ran a blood test for FIP - feline infectious peritonitis, a fatal feline corona virus.
He told me that all cats have demodex mites - his do - mine do - but if the immune system is functioning properly, the body will fight them off. He assured me they were not contageous to humans or my healthy cats - not that it would have mattered - I loved my cat.
My cat's FIP, although not a positive or negative result, DID indicate that he had been infected with a corona virus, and therefore, did have FIP - feline infectious peritonitous.
It should be noted that this test is not specific as to 'which' particular corona virus my cat had, as there are many corona viruses, not all of them fatal, but the FIP diagnosis was based on a high corona virus titer along with his ongoing autoimmune symptoms.
My question - could a corona virus be part of chronic Lyme? Could this be why some people improve on antivirals? Could this be the missing link to why Lyme goes chronic (besides the fact that I still believe cell phones and wireless are THE CAUSE of chronic Lyme)?
And could the hair loss associated with Lyme be caused by these microscopic mange mites?
My vet said these mites are extremely common to even healthy pets.
Consequently, my cat died at the age of 2 - blood clot to the lung. And since then, I have developed equivocal anti-striatal muscle (smooth muscle) antibodies myself.
Also, my pelvic ultrasound at one point showed fluid in the culdesac which corresponds to the peritoneum - what should be a sterile area separating the organs.
Do we really all have FIP (from cell phones and wireless, of course!)???
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Many with Lyme have other viruses because of a compromised immune system. If the immune system is down, viruses that would not overtake a healthy person could be deadly to us.
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I don't know - somehow I think they all kind of work together here. I still think the problem isn't so much these bugs, but rather electromagnetic chaos from cell phones and wireless.
I was out digging a hole earlier for a maple tree seedling I was going to plant, but quickly became ill.
I kept pushing myself until I could hear my neighbor, chatting away on her cell phone - not far from where I was digging.
We're never going to kick Lyme Disease, corona viruses, mange, or any of these bugs until we turn off this electromagnetic pollution.
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I have often wondered about mites and whether they have at least some role in our illness/es.
I don't know much about the viral condition mentioned, but several months ago, while researching the co-infections, I found that mites are also carriers of some of those infections:
I also began researching demodex mites, because I came across some literature from china that discusses a possible relationship between acne and mites. The researcher insists that mites are the cause of teenage acne (90%). But he also sells various products so one never knows in these cases if the research is biased.
Have read that washing clothes/bedding in hot water helps as well as washing in borax. And the following is a link to some Gaiam products, i.e., protectors for pillows and beds that are apparently useful against mites:
HUMAN DEMODEX Human demodex cases are rather rare but do occur. It is believed that demodex mites are a common residents of hair follicles in dogs and humans, and when present in few numbers in a healthy individual seldom cause clinically observable cases.
Under certain unknown conditions, though, humans can develop clinical cases of demodex mites. The images below are of an animal caretaker who became infested in the facial regions with demodex mites.
She had been providing the dog with prescribed treatments in the animal hospital. After consulting with a human dermatologist she was eventually able to eliminate the mites but the process entailed numerous topical treatments and also systemic medications.
After six months of treatment, all symptoms of the mites disappeared.
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In 10 years of being a vet tech I have never heard of a staff member getting demodex. People have gotten scabies though. Yuck is all I can say.
I really dont think that a human can catch FIP. It is specific to cats. Maybe another corona virus, but noy FIP.
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clairenotes - Thanks! I can't believe one of these bugs is diagnosed by lymph node biopsy - something I requested of my doctors, yet I was reprimanded for asking this due to the risks and dangers involved. I figured I was already dying - why not biopsy my swollen lymph nodes already?
merrygirl - I actually HAD strange rashes on my face like this over the last several years - on and off - but I was told it was acne. In fact, the rashes became persistent following STEROIDS. My eyebrows even fell off there for awhile. I looked like a chemo patient.
My skin is pretty clear currently, though I did break out back in the spring. Hmmm?
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Thyroid problems, common with Lyme, can cause acne, hair loss including your eybrows falling out and a few other things you mentioned. And steriods can make this worse. This "mommy mange" that you are refering to isn't passed on to humans.
It is called mommy mange because when the dogs are born they do not have the mites, but the mites are passed on to the puppy through touch like when they nurse from the mom. All dogs have mites, it's just the ones with a geneic predisposition of a lower immune system that can't handle the mites and they can get out of control.
For the most part, dogs can usually cure themselves of this by the time they are one year old. On occasion help from medicated shampoos will help them get better faster.
I also was a vet tech and have never heard of that ever crossing the pet/human barrier.
However, I had a parvo virus one time, but it was B19 (fifth's disease) different from the animal strain. And Fifth Disease is common with people who have Lyme.
In all my years the only shared illness in pets and humans was strep.
Your other symptoms could be explained from the other complicaitons from Lyme like your thyroid.
I would look elsewhere for the reasons behind your symptoms.
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Here are some links to sites with information regarding mites and their relationship to humans. Perhaps the discrepancies are due to the different species. It does appear that some mites are host specific (a great relief since we have a dog).
I am still going to take precautions, and also put to 'test' the acne connection for my daughter, not by purchasing the products listed in the site above, but through other avenues.
If mites are a problem, it is possible that this could be a steady source of infection.
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I vote for thyroid, that makes the most sense. Medications also can affect hair loss.
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I think I said this before somewhere, but many of us were sick way before there were cellphones and cellphone masts. I don't think they're the culprit.
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quote:Originally posted by dontlikeliver: I think I said this before somewhere, but many of us were sick way before there were cellphones and cellphone masts. I don't think they're the culprit.
I completely agree with this. I wrote already somewhere that my old grandmother, my aunt and a very old neigbour woman suffered all their lives from Lyme - they didn't even have electricity in their youth where they lived.
As to the demodex mites: Since about 8 years I have a rash in my face that is growing slowly. They did a biopsy to find out if it is an EM but all they found was an unusual high number of demodex mites. I was told everybody has them and the older you get the more you have. But I had far too many.
Sometimes, my face looks like the one of the woman on the picture in the above link. All I got was metrondiazole cream which didn't help at all
I have been wondering also: mites and ticks are related. Could I be reinfected all the time by these darn mites?
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quote:Originally posted by Gabrielle:
quote:Originally posted by dontlikeliver: I think I said this before somewhere, but many of us were sick way before there were cellphones and cellphone masts. I don't think they're the culprit.
I completely agree with this. I wrote already somewhere that my old grandmother, my aunt and a very old neigbour woman suffered all their lives from Lyme - they didn't even have electricity in their youth where they lived.
Well. While I will discount only a few things in life...here's what I do know:
I was infected in 1974 and showed neuro symptoms years before I was around cell phones or mircowaves. In fact, out first cable tv didn't even have a remote...we had a box with a cord and push buttons for a channel changer!
In addition, I live very rurally in Amish Paradise. We have dial-up at home because there is no cable or dsl where I live. (I am not Amish and I post from work). HOwever, the Amish by me (southwest PA) make the Amish folk in Lancaster look like liberal rich folk in a modren world. They only speak English to people like me...in the Chiropractor, for example, they speak what we call "dutch", a slang german, and speak only german at church. They aren't allowed to have air in their tires on their tractors, they cannot have "hex" signs or flowers unless they are growing them for selling, or any other type of decoration. No buttons...really, really old order orthodox Amish. Great people, by the way. They are generous and kind with what little they have.
So, one of them goes out to kentucky to visit her family years ago and got bit. She comes back with Lyme, doesn't know it, gets very sick. Goes to a bunch of docs (which their community rasies funds for), nothing. Finally she gets an IGENEX test from a DO, tests positive for Lyme.
Now, this woman doens't have a mircowave. She doesn't have cell towers out on the mountain (trust me, there is no signal in pocohontas, pa...its all amish and a other few farms). I promise you she doesn't use any wireless accessories what so ever. The Amish can get neuro lyme too, even when they live miles a away from civilization. I live a 20 minute drive to town myself. Nothing but woods and farms.
The good news...after the shuemaker protocol she is in remission (I hope cured) for the last several years. In fact, I have not been out to see her yet, but my stepfather delivers feed to her farm and she said I am wlcome to come out and talk to her about it.
In the spirit of fairness, I have a friend who a few years ago almost died from a rare benign brain tumor. There are only a handful in the country. They do not know how she got it...BUT they will not rule out that she grew up next to an electric power station. The only thing is that cannot be proven, BECAUSE no one else in her family, or any of her neighbors were effected in any way, shape, or form.
Even without cell phones and towers, the earth creates its own electric magnetic energy, and our bodies run on it! We have electric impulses in the brain, and heart...and we may never know how much electricity and so forth effects us, or how we effect it. What I DO know, is that my problems happened before any of that stuff, syphilis was around way before it as well, and many many other illnesses. As a world, we are healthier and living longer than ever! And the amish...living the simple life...no cell towers or power lines or microwaves for miles...not drinking bottles water out of plastic containers, and having teeth removed rather than filled...
I guess my message here is that balance is key. Docs who think electrical fields will kill us may be right. But then, we'd have to consider that docs who say all lyme is cured in 3 weeks could be right too...
OK...off my soap box. Its getting slippery up here anyway.
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I never had really bad acne - not so far as 'numbers' go. My acne was limited to a few monstrous, cystic blemishes that would return every single month. I think I would have been happier with a lot of tiny zits.
Gabrielle, I think virtually any living being can become infected with any organism whatsoever, provided conditions are ripe for infection.
I would not be surprised if I have demodex mites at all. My eyebrows fell out, and they continue to do so, though less conspicuously as these infections are treated.
My vet explained to me, for example, that ALL animals have mites - his do - mine do - but a healthy immune system is able to keep them under control to where the pet is asymptomatic - I do not think this would be any different for humans.
I think humans in general have big heads, thinking we are so evolved that we are born parasite-free. I'd go so far as to speculate that the reason human infants have the lumpy yellow poop is because they have parasites that are beyond their immune systems initially. All puppies are treated for worms automatically.
Nancy - Though true, the earth generates its own electromagnetic field necessary for survival, these fields are clean and unadulterated, unlike the garbage we generate with our technological advances. You can't tell me that I'm equally as healthy sitting on the floor of a forest as I am sitting in front on my TV.
And everybody forgets that if electricity, cell phones, wireless, airport radar, radio waves, etc... exist, whether or not an individual lives free of this new technology or not, they are STILL being exposed to it daily 24/7 - even if they live the Amish lifestyle - simply because everybody else alive is using it around them.
In fact, some frequencies are even WORSE in the boonies, because the signal generated must be INCREASED in order for it to work.
Look at the disappearing honeybees.
One scientist held a cell phone to the bees, and they refused to return to the hive.
Another scientist cut them open and discovered these bees were infected with virtually every pathogen they had ever been exposed to.
My fear here is that what the second scientist discovered (parasites) is being caused by what the first scientist discovered - that cell phones are behind their disappearance and behavior changes. In humans, it has been proven that CELL PHONES CAUSE PATHOGENS TO CROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER. Do bees have a blood-brain barrier equivalent? Good question.
And if I'm right in my suspicions that humans are sooo infected with parasites that they can't even THINK long enough to realize their own detriment, humans are going to be in bigger trouble yet if we don't pay attention to the disappearing honeybees - and soon.
I say this as a joke, but not really - look at human relationships and compare them to the disappearing honeybees. The females (queens) are being left behind with their children (eggs), and only some immature guys (drones) are sticking around.
It should be noted that THIS IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT IS OCCURRING IN THE BEE POPULATION.
Nobody here will ever convince me that these fields are without consequence. Just because corporations are not generous with the funding that would prove these EMFs to be dangerous, there is plenty enough proof out there already that these fields are detrimental to human life as we know it.
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Hi Tailz
My hair has fallen out twice in the last 18 months but is all back now--
For Mange this works and I used on a dog that had Zero hair left and It worked Very well --
Get some very old and dirty Motor Oil- the more Burned the Better-
Mix the oil with powdered sulfur from a Garden or Lawn supply store-
Mix the oil and sulfur together and rub on the animals skin --
This mix worked on a dog that had Zero hair left and in 2 weeks was growing hair back and had stopped itching-
I think I put it on the dog twice but it has been 15 yrs -so I dont remember for sure--Jay--
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Point noted...but you cannot get a signal out there. Not for miles and miles. Its in the mountains. We don't have the creature comforts of East PA out by you folks. There are hitching posts at the grocery store and the bank. We only got 911 service on regular phones 6 years ago. Up until then, you could dial 4 numbers and get someone in town on the phone.
There is one tower now in one town, and another in the largest town nearby, both of which have gone up only in the last few years. This person recovered way before they got there...AND still is miles and miles (plus on the other side of the mountain) from those loactions. Just saying, its just the way it is. There's no demand for it. Its not like Kutztown, 5 hours to the east of here on the other side of the state, where they have that big festival and tourist attractions and a major highway nearby. There aren't major highways around here unless you go to Maryland. There are literally dry good grocery stores here that don't have electricty
I would never say there couldn't be a consequence, and know full well no one is going to ever convince you otherwise. At the same time, while your insights are given credit where credit is due, you must realize that not all illnesses are spurred from such things. Illnesses occurred way before cell phones. And, with all due respect, I think the reason a lot of folks here give you a hard time (which is not my intention by the way) is because you push your views, want everyone to see your point and to be concerned about this...BUT you seem to impart a great deal of tunnelvision when someone responds intelligently as Devil's advocate.
How will you possibly get someone to take your view seriously and be open minded when, in fact, you are closed off to the opinions of others? It becomes dangerous to submerse oneself so deeply into a system of beliefs (which is all science is, really. We are humans are incredibly ignorant to many things, and everything is still a learning experience) to lose sight that there are valuable arguments on both sides. In order to be well-rounded, wise, and taken seriously, in this world we have to be able to not only know both sides of an issue, but be able to debate both sides and see the pros and cons. When anyone (not just you) becomes deeply immersed only into their own view, to the point that they cannot see past it, they lose credibility.
That's not an attack. You seem like you have good intentions and just want people to see your concerns, I'm not even saying there isn't validity to the possibility to stuff like that hurting us. For example, Radiologists go out of a room when they snap an xray, because we know enough to know we shouldn't be exposed to xrays all day long. Sure its possible. BUT, its not the cause for everything. And there are plenty of other views out there, and other harmful stuff. I will not believe in any one doctor's opinion or any one web site's or person's views without skepticism. If you do not want a healthy debate, or folks to respond negatively when you come on strong, change your tactics. Have a healthy debate, be passionate, but be balanced!
Illnesses occur in places in this country where it is so rural that there are no such things. Grave Illnesses occur in countries that have people who don't even know about such things! Syphilis sent people into funny farms with psychosis and dementia before Ben Franklin discovered electricity. Lyme may have as well. Just because we as humans weren't smart enough to figure Lyme out before that doesn't mean it wasn't around. In fact, there is evidence that it was. Mites have existed as long as the world has existed. I take a pill every day with billions of "good bacteria" every day. Bring on the bugs, I say. There are both good and bad. Its all part of the natural order of things.
The acne condition you are describing is called acne vulgaris. It is a cystic form of acne, unfortunately it is painful and often disfiguring! I dated a guy who dealt with this for most of his life, and still gets this on and off into his 30's. So, I feel for you there. I remember how painful it was for him and how many things he tried to get it under control. We were quite young when that began, way before cell phone towers and so forth.
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Jay - Can humans use this? And with the exception of a major breakout this past spring, my complexion hasn't been all that bad since changing my diet, except I had a heat rash on my forearm yesterday which kind of freaked me out.
Nancy - I will admit that after reading 'Cross Currents' and 'The Body Electric', everything I have complained about made so much sense to me 'electrically' that I almost immediately agreed with the author and just figured everybody else would, too. I was finally able to connect all the dots, and the more I researched his theories elsewhere, the more truth they seemed to contain.
I wanted people here to get excited about his discoveries. If these EMFs are making bugs cross the blood-brain barrier and interfering with the normal functioning of the immune system (which the author believes is fully capable of handling everything from Lyme to cancer - even REGENERATION), the cure for Lyme Disease or any chronic infection seems pretty simple to me. I thought people here would be thrilled to learn this. The cure we have been looking for is literally right under our noses.
I mean for the last 3 years I have complained about being sickened whenever driving into traffic or whenever the forced air heat would turn on. You can ask my sister.
I thought I was reacting to merely air pollution in traffic until I found myself becoming ill on crystal clear days, too. I wasn't thinking about cell phone towers or antennas, or even that the car's engine itself operates at its own frequency, and that 10 minutes into my drive, I could have been zapped by my car's engine alone.
And the forced air heat - I thought it was the dry air that was making me sick - that the more the heater ran, the worse I felt. I even tried running an electric humidifier which, by the way, did NOT alleviate my symptoms. Yet I often felt better, dry air or not, once the heater would shut off - at least until it would kick on again.
And yes, I will admit that without reading this book and examining the research yourself, I probably do not explain what I learned well enough to be believed to the extent that this author is, but by the same token here, it seems people here don't even want to believe HIM.
Nobody seems to consider the possibility that the reason this author's theories are not well-known/respected has everything to do with corporate funding and that corporations would suffer if this info were to become accepted as proven and true.
I figured that given the conspiracies in diagnosing and treating Lyme Disease, people here would be the FIRST people to contemplate that possibility.
So what do corporations do? They simply put there dollars elsewhere, knowing that the average everyday researcher will never have the financial backing to 'prove', beyond that shadow of a doubt, that their cell phones or whatnot are UNSAFE, even though they are.
My ex, a heavy cell phone user, had a 'rare' non-malignant brain tumor removed this past spring. He went to his high school reunion and met a classmate with the same 'rare' tumor. I'm beginning to even question the meaning of the word 'rare' in medical literature now.
Also, I've read numerous books on diet and how diet can arrest disease, and I didn't fall for any ONE diet theory like I did for this EMF theory, but instead tried several different diets and then incorporated the foods into my diet that fit my own experience with them.
Likewise, I considered ALL sorts of pollution in relation to my symptoms - from chemicals in food to chemicals in products to air pollution to water pollution.
What I'm saying is that it takes A LOT to convince me of anything, and my own personal experience along with this author's studies were plenty to convince me that electromagnetic fields are PARAMOUNT in finding the cure for Lyme or any disease for that matter.
I also believe it is critical to avoid the 'watch and wait' attitude. They've finally linked cell phones to brain tumors - I honestly can't believe that alone wasn't enough to ban them, especially since so many young people are essentially the 'test subjects' of an ongoing experiment.
And though cell phones and wireless are relatively new, the 60 hz frequency in the US is not. In fact, my doctor told me that in Europe they use I think it was 220 hz, simply because the 60 hz frequency has been proven to have health dangers. Personally I think all ALTERNATING current is dangerous, so I am not exclusively blaming health problems on cell phones and wireless alone, but also ordinary house current, even military radar and radio waves.
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I'm sorry about your pet. I lost my cat Lucy to FIP in June. It was horrible watching her body get smaller and frailer while her belly got bigger and bigger. It was 2 weeks from the date she was diagnosed until the day we had to let her go.
I too couldn't help thinking that maybe I had caught something from my cats. I lost two cats in one year. I started comparing symptoms. She had hair loss. So did I, etc. I had lost Lucy in June 2007 and Oliver in June 2006. Two cats in 1 year + me getting sick too made me think twice.
My vet assured me that the corona virus that affects cats doesn't transfer to people. I hope she is right.
To help me understand she compared the corona virus that causes FIP to chicken pox. She said that most kids are exposed to chicken pox and get it and get over it. A very few kids have chicken pox really bad and die. She said it's the same for cats and FIP.
Don't know how true that is and she tried to really simplify it for me because I was obviously upset on hearing that my cat had a fatal illness.
I do trust her or I won't take my animals to her. At least the vet acknowledges Lyme. Frankly at this point I'd rather be treated by her than most regular doctors...
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OH MY DEAR LORD! DO NOT EVER PUT MOTOR OIL ON YOUR PETS!!!! YIKES !!
PLEASE LISTEN TO ME! It is toxic! DO NOT PUT MOTOR OIL ON YOU EITHER.
I have been a vet tech for 10 years please listen to me.
There is a lot of info on this site about mites also a WARNING about Motor oil
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Interesting. I do shelter work and sometimes breed ferrets who they have just found out have their own form of FIP. And definitely ear mites. And Allison, I'm not a vet tech, but ferrets can get influenza and a couple other viruses humans get.
Re the cell phones... I too was infected way before the annoying things were even invented. Sorry, don't like them, agree may not be healhy, but don't believe they are related to lyme.
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Get a good mite shampoo from the vet. It's not all that expensive.
On top of that. A mixture of peroxide and dawn dish soap and wash your animal up, leave on for 5 minutes and then rinse. Great at killing yeast on the skin that usually comes along with a bad case of mites. And give acidophilus and it helps calm the yeast in the gut. Fish oil pills will help a the new coat grow in nice and healthy.
Now would I do this on a human? Well, it's not harmful, but it might make your hair lighter.
I have had Lyme most of my life and I get those cystic pimples too...I say it goes with the lyme. But that is my opinion.
As far as cell phone, micro wave thing....Well, I got Lyme while living on a farm in Pennsylvania back in 1979. We didn't have a television, and ate off the farm. Milk, eggs, vegies, and meat. And I still got Lyme.
I do believe some people are more sensitive to those things (cell phones, microwaves..etc), but those being the cause of the problems you have listed, I just have a hard time believing that.
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motown - I'm sorry to hear about your pets, too. In fact, I lost a cat to fatty liver disease at the age of 2 (his name was Oliver, too!), and then the kitty I adopted after he died was the one who died of FIP, also at the age of 2.
I tend to think there was something else environmental going on in my last house - I'm leaning towards cell phones, wireless, and nuclear power plants - even toxic waste dumps. You might want to consider those and how they apply to your situation if your health problems persist.
I love animals though too much, that even if this was something contageous, I don't think that would stop me - at least not for long.
I often said throughout this that if I'd have been a dog, I'd have either been diagnosed or euthanized years ago. So definitely, I trust my vet before any human doctor anymore.
melissa - Don't worry - I read up on all home remedies, and with my chemical sensitivities, even if this was safe, it probably would not work for me for that reason.
I forget what I had to use on my kitty though for the demodex mites. I DO remember though that I had to dip him, and that he vomited after being dipped, and the vet had me dilute the solution more.
My daughter had a ferret at one point, too, but she got rid of it because it was so dirty, and I was too sick to take care of any more pets with all the pets I had that were ailing already.
But I'm not too quick to dismiss any technology as being the cause of Lyme though, simply because if EMFs even confuse or hinder the workings of the immune system - something they have been proven to do - then I would think they could in that sense cause chronic Lyme.
Now trying to pinpoint 'which' technology is doing it - that's the problem. For all I know it could be satellite radio causing chronic Lyme, but most likely, it is some combination of these unsafe signals.
I just think it's weird that my LLMD was knocked out from Lyme in 2000 - the same year I bailed on disability. He had started getting ill back in 1998 though, too - just like I did.
Since he and I both live in PA, I tend to think this is too coincidental. I would be curious how many other eastern PA people had serious Lyme flares that coincide with mine. I'd also be curious when each new generation of cell phones, wireless, etc... came out to see if they happen to coincide with Lyme increases.
I'd then be curious to go state by state and determine if everybody seemed to get knocked down with Lyme around the same time as the temperatures rose. It's just way too coincidental that my doctor and I both got nailed with Lyme in 1998 - and then 2000.
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