Marnie
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Is there anyone here (with fairly longstanding lyme) that does NOT have cracked heels?
Just trying to piece something together from a Belgium CFS study....
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I had them very badly and on one heel a lot of numbness. Rife healed this considerably but not completely. I still have one very small crack in my right heel. My LLND states that it is a lack of iodine.
I'm very interested in your information on this because I know another person who does not think that she has lyme but she has the deep heel cracks. Terry
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Marnie, I have never been tested so might not have lyme disease but the cracked heel thing is raging..
If there is an iodine connection if might make sense. I have started using real salt and my daughter looses hair and I have severely dry skin. lmt
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I didn't realize cracked heels were something most of us had in common....
My heels are terrible cracked, but my boyfriend's are smooth as a baby's bottom.
BUT, even though he tested ultra-high using the Bowen test, he only has a few, minor neurological symptoms, and we cannot be sure how long he has been infected with Lyme.
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My heels are horrible. Have been for years. I had a bulls-eye rash in 1988, but have only been treated for a little more than a year. I started taking cod liver oil a month or so ago and it seems to have helped ever so slightly.
Any suggestions on how to heal my heels?
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I do not have cracked heels. I've battled it for years, but found that if I blow-dry my feet after my shower to really get them dry, I don't get the cracks. I was assuming it was from a fungus since it went away when I started drying my feet.
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Cracked heels? Oh, my, yes. Mine look like a dry river bottom in drought season.
I use Aveeno lotion practically every night and still they have deep cracks.
I never associated it with anything because my mother has them too. Course I believe she has lyme also.........
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Hi All--
for me I think the cracked thick skin was caused by Candida infection-
Candida can really cause Havoc in the skin--
One way to test skin is to Squeeze with fingers the effected area--
If skin turns Yellowish color-- candida can be the cause --
I have used creams that have Salicylic Acid work very good for removing this effected skin -- Painless--easy--
Wart Stick from WalMart works good-$4stick- 2 to 3 sticks per foot is what it take for best results --worth it --
Takes 2 weeks or so--Jay--
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Hmmmm, I just pressed my thumb on my arm. I got a big yellow thumbprint.
Does this mean it might be candida???
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Totally cracked and nasty looking. Isn't everyone's?
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Yes, very cracked heals. If I baby them they'll get a little better, but if I stop the problem always comes back.
The yellow skin thing - I thought that might have something to do with jaundice. The "specialist" wanted to know if I was a carrott juicer.
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I've had this problem for many, many years - long before my recent tick bite but I may have been bitten many years ago, too, based on symptoms.
A dermatologist I saw years ago recommended a cream that has alpha-hydroxy acid in it to smooth the skin - can't remember the name now.
But for the last couple of years, I've been putting shea butter on them each night before bed.
Also, I think the essential fatty acids (orally) might help mine a bit.
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I have had that bad but did not relate it to the lyme. I get several foot items from Avon that seem to help. You can find their stuff online reasonably cheap.
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I have had that bad but did not relate it to the lyme. I get several foot items from Avon that seem to help. You can find their stuff online reasonably cheap.
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I do Not have cracked heels. My feet are usually on the moist side , not dry at all.
Does this mean i dont have lyme. Im pretty sure ive had lyme since 2000.
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I've been having this problem since I was in my mid 30's. By that time I was having fibromyalgia, raging migraines, and other symptoms of Lyme.
I began using lanolin on my heels, and also my dry hands. When I read about essential fatty acids, I began taking flax oil capsules, and later fish oil capsules. The dry skin abated.
You can buy a tube of lanolin at the drugstore for just a few dollars. If you want to try fish oil, use pharmaceutical quality. Carlson's is very good.
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Wow did this subject get a lot of attention!
My feet are terribly cracked and I even got a pedicure to take off the skin 2 weeks ago and you can't even tell.
My LLMD says it from Thyroid.
MY husband rubs my numb feet and said it almost looks like it is a foot inside a foot.
I believe it is a sign of lyme.
I have tried all of the lotions, cures, etc and still have it. Go figure! Cathy
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quote: When I read about essential fatty acids, I began taking flax oil capsules
Don't want to divert the topic but just want to mention that my LLND had me go off flax seed oil because she said it suppresses the immune system, similar to steroids. Terry
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As far as I know I don't have Lyme but I am hypothyroid. I started having problems with heel cracking a few years ago. Flax seed oil (orally) helped. I also use a file to scrub down the callus after every shower and use a Eucerin cream that I believe has alpha hydroxy.
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Yup...very dry cracked heals. I've tried all kinds of products, even used a "foot file"... Doesn't seem to help. Omega 3 fish oils leave me really gassy with loose bowls (as if constipation flipping into diarea (sp?) wasn't enough!) Maybe we just have dry skin?
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I had cracked & rough heels for 10 years. Got them every winter=went away in the spring/summer. this year is first that i did not get cracked heels. maybe its the abx?
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I use to have them now all I get on my heals is lke slight peeling? Like it wanted to get a callus but decided not too? Before the calluses on my heals were really thick and they would crack split deep but never to where I would bleed they were bad nothing at all now.
My wife has them bad now never did before meeting me and then getting lyme?
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my 19 yr. old niece worked on my feet 6-8 wks. ago and taught me a few things! her late mom/my sister, was a cosmetologist, and worked on dad's bad feet all the time.
ashley had me soak my feet a good 20-30 minutes. then she worked on them good getting dried skin off, etc. THEN PUT MY GOOD HAND LOTION FROM WALGREENS ON THEM $4.00 for a big container full.
then she had me SOAK my feet again for 5 minutes and wiped them dry. she said it keeps them moist this way and less cracking!
try it; you might like it! i had my feet worked on yesterday by the HOMEWARD RN/LPNs who come around to senior citizen centers assisting others.
wanted them trimmed up good with my being confined to bed from march 26 on with my hip surgery.
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What's this? A symptom I DON'T have? Never heard of this cracked heels thing. My skin has always trended oily, so maybe that makes a difference?
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yeah dguy im not the only one that doest have this.
I know im usually the oddball around here.
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Marnie, interesting to hear that cracked heals could be caused by a zinc and Omega 3 deficiency. I think I have read that Bb feeds on zinc. That could account for a deficiency. If that's the case, do we need to add it back in to keep us healthy, or avoid it to starve the keets? Your opinion?
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Okay, now I am cracking up I have had cracked heels since I was a kid, but Lyme only for 4 years.
My very healthy 80 year old mother has cracked heels and fingers. It runs in the family along with toenail fungus
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If you only wear cotton socks it may help. I do not have Lyme but I used to have deep cracks on the bottom of my feet. It was so bad they would bleed. Once I started wearing cotton socks it went away completely.
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used to have them till I had to use a lot of flucanazole for systemic yeast. Then they went away. I don't think it was yeast- I think it was another fungus.
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Count me in.
You do NOT want to see my heels in sandals.
I use an emery-board type thing to try and help. Plus moisturizers.
However, this is also a sign of hypothyroidism, which I have been dx'd with since getting lyme.
Throughout winter I do wear cotton socks (long knee-socks to keep warm!) and tennies.
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Marnie
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Yes...Bb has "zinc fingers". Zinc bridges between histidine and cysteine proteins.
Calprotectin, in our neutrophils (most abundant WBC) bind that zinc.
We make neutrophils every 3 weeks...that's the "turn over" time. Does that timing sound familiar?
However, apparently zinc is also one of the nutrients used to help tryptophan convert to serotonin and our own immune system needs zinc.
So...the question is...take a zinc supp. or not?
Zinc apparently can bond to vitamin C (which we do NOT make)because this is what zinc lozenges contain.
This makes me wonder about the need for more vitamin C (NOT in combo with Na...which is already a problem).
The same applies to choline. Bb wants it, but we need it too! ABSOLUTELY.
I don't think we can do without either...
And then some.
See Treepatrol's post on cAMP and my response about perhaps interferring with the histidine-cysteine bonds.
P.S. Mg will "displace" Zn, but it takes a LOT of Mg to do this.
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To those with cracked heels, read Gigi post Nov 06 in the thread listed below. Might be helpful.
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I have cracked heels if I don't moisturize. I never associated this with Lyme. I also have very dry skin (my mother also had dry skin). I have to put lotion all over my body with each shower and I still get "itchy" in the winter. I put Nivea Cream (not lotion) on my feet (more on the heels)at least every other night and sleep with cotton socks on. In the summer I never go barefoot - especially on cement or tile - it draws moisture from the feet.
My dad had cracked heals and dry feet but he had a fungal problem and diabetes.
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The problem with cracked feet that I had was because of moisture on my feet. It seems counterintuitive but whatever bacteria I had on my feet thrived when they were moist. Wearing nylon or other artificial materials in socks caused constant moisture. When I started wearing cotton socks and quit putting stuff on my feet they came back to normal. It took a few weeks but it has never come back in over twenty years.
This could be caused for different reasons in Lyme cases but some may be similar to my problem.
The same theory appies to chapped lips. I used to have chapped lips and a relative of mine said "quit licking your lips and it will go away" He was right, and I have never had chapped lips since. I thought he was kind of nutty before I found out it works.
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GIGI
I am translating this from a German text by the researcher:
The ozonated Oils work via the ozonides. The ozonides carry the oxygen thereby changing the milieu in which anaerobic pathogenic "seeds" or "germs" live, changing it to an aerobic terrain, making it impossible for them to continue to replicate (oxygen is present) . The Oil works on the surface clinging with its effective ingredients to the gut mucosa where fungi, bacteria and parasite nests are hanging out.
Here is what I posted on another thread. The experience is that the ozonated oils are very, very effective.
Rizoles
Rizoles are faily recently discovered compounds that naturally form when natural oils are ozonated for extended periods of time (weeks to months). Depending on the organic plant oil used, the time of exposure to pure medical grade ozone gas, voltage and amperage in the high-voltage chamber, different compounds with unique properties are formed.
Extensive research and safety studies have been done in several universities in Germany. The results showed that rizoles are extremely safe to use both internally and externally.
They have unusual and profound antimicrobial effects for many different species of microorganisms: molds, bacteria, protozoa, flukes, roundworms, tapeworms, threadworms and others. Rizoles also have significant anti-viral effects.
Common uses in Germany:
As bath oils about 15-20 drops are added to the bath water while having a hote sitz-bath for no more than 15 minutes (sitting in the bath, water temperature as high as comfortably tolerated, water level no higher than umbilicus)
The oils are ideal to treat fungal skin infections, including nail fungus and athletes foot, cracks in the heel )often a mixed infection). For use on mucous membranes, the oils should be diluted or ``cut'' 50:50 or more with a non-ozonated plant oil (sesame oil, olive oil, almond oil, etc.)
The oils are suitable to treat gum disease (mouth wash several times per day) and to apply with a Q-tip diluted 50:50 to the ear canal for external otitis (no more than one drop per application).
To treat infections and infestations in the lymphatic system, the oils should be applied directly over the skin areas where the lymphatic uptake is significant (anterior neck, under axilla, groin, in selected indications to be applied to the breast)
Dose: sometimes one single drop applied to the skin per day is enough to create a die-off effect (Herzheimer reaction) in the lymphatic system (which seems to be a popular hiding place for several creatures). The dose should only be gradually increased when the reactions become tolerable. Ideally this treatment is combined with the salt/vitamin C treatment for micro-filariosis (www.lymephotos.com).
4. Internal use (this is commonly done in Germany and other European countries. In the US the products are not approved by the FDA for internal use. It would consistute an off-label use).
This is usually done in 2 stages:
Stage I. to treat intestinal infestations with bacteria (clostridia, etc.), protozoa (giardia, amoebas, toxoplasma, etc), worms and viruses.
Dosage: Begin with 1-3 drops one/day and gradually increase to the full dose of 10 drops 3 times/day. Back off if you experience Herxheimer/die-off reactions. Then slowly increase again. Pour a little clean water in a cup, shake the rizol bottle rhythmically until the desired number of drops have fallen in the cup, add water to the mix. The turbulence is enough to create a homogenous white mily fluid that tastes ok.
Depending on your intestinal uptake, there may be burning in the anus with the next bowel movement (if the oil is not taken up in the intestinal passage). This may be a sign to go on to State II:
Add 1/3 to 1 tsp Phospholipid Exchange and stir in the mix (see Stage I). This will dramatically increase the uptake of the rizol in the lymphatic system of the gut and cleanse the GALT (gut-associated-lymphatic-system). As soon as the rizol has done its job here, it will travel via the large central lymph duct into the veins, from here to the lungs, liver, kidney and eventually into the brain. Wherever it reaches, it chases the pathogenic microbes out of this area. There may be significant die-off reactions at unpredictable times. No serious lasting untoward effects have been observed however.
It is best to combine this treatment with the salt/Vit C parasite cleanse. German practitioners have recommended this treatment for many months, until ``the job is done''. Lyme patients have been on this regimen for as long as a year without problems.
It is absolutely important to supplement healthy bowel flora (suggest the products from BII), which should be taken after meals - away from rizoles. The rizoles are best taken on an empty stomach. Do not take the rizoles late at night since die-off reactions may disturb the deep sleep (which is so important for healing).
Rizoles are also called ``ozonides''. However, the correct biochemical name is ``rizol''. They were developed by Professor and Chief of the Department of Chemistry, Dr. Gerhard Steidl of the University of Erlangen, Germany. The scientific research of the rizoles was conducted by Prof. Steidl under the auspices of the Karl and Veronica Carstens Foundation in Essen, Germany, the largest naturopathic research foundation in the world: Jahrbuch Band 3 der Karl and Veronica Carstens Stiftung, Hippokrates Verlag, Stuttgart, Germany 1996 ISBN 3-7773-1295-9 (Subtitle: Untersuchungen zur Wirkungsweise langkettiger Ozonide auf eukariotische humane Zellen, Pilz- und Tumorzellen, Biochemische und zellbiologische Effekte. Investigation into the effect of long chain ozonides on eucariotic human cells, yeast and tumorcells, Biochemical and cell-biological effects).
Currently the oils are only used in the US for bath, even though they are used for a wide variety of indications in Europe, including infections (anaerobic bacteria, oxygen sensitive fungi such as Candida, Cryptococcus and histoplasma, most parasites and many viruses (parvo, corona, all 8 herpes viruses, adenovirus, rota and most prions), periodontal disease, chronic fatigue, constipation, depression, ADHD, clostridia.
Side effects: activation of the M-cells (peritoneal macrophages) and activation of lymphocytes can cause transient inflammation in affected body areas and the oils have therefore diagnostic properties. The dose should be greatly reduced if and when this occurs until the reaction subsides. Regular Herzheimer reactions are expected and common.
Rizoles ingredients can be found on www.biopureus.com or in the BioPure product manual available by contacting BioPure.
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Not at all . I do take carlson's fish liver oil and a lot of vitamins and zinc .
The fish oil helps with moods and muscle discomfort , and is supposed to be purified . However , I am nervous about the possibility of mercury , even though the maker says it is purified . Who really knows?
I was thinking of switching to flax oil , but just read a post indicating that it is not the best for lyme.
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Cracked heals are easy to get rid, do long hot to warm soaking baths, an hour if you can, then use a soap stone on them, do this over a period of several weeks every two days or so, I took what appeared to be dead feet to look like a baby's feet in two weeks doing this, it's just dead skin, what causes it I don't know, but forget creams, pumice stone it off, it will work.
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I don't think I've ever had cracked heels in all the years I've been sick. Now my elbows are another matter.
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I dont have cracked heels. My mom does though- BIG TIME, and I KNOW she has lyme and babs.
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That was one of the things my LLMD looked for. I had cracked heels 2 1/2 years ago but don't now.
Don't know what stopped it.
Bug
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