heiwalove
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does anyone find that detox foot pads actually make their feet hurt or feel really uncomfortable? i'm assuming this is because they're pulling lots of toxins/metals out of me.. but it's almost to the point where they feel too uncomfortable to wear to sleep at night.
what about wearing the pads during the day? is this a possibility as well?
also, what part of the foot do you put the pads on? and how many pads per foot are recommended?
thanks, heather.
ps. i'm using the health marvels brand, in case anyone's curious.
luvs2ride
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Yes, sometimes I experience more foot ankle pain but it only lasts a couple of days. Overall, I experience much pain relief and especially from muscle cramping in my feet.
I place the pads in the arch of my foot (on the bottom). Most people here recommend the gold pads (from healthmarvels.com) but I have heavy metal toxicity and find I get the most relief from the blue pads. I do not suffer CFS for which I think the gold pads are better.
I certainly have not been cured by these pads, but I do experience pain relief and hope it isn't just placebo effect. I so much like the feel of them on my feet at night, that when I am out of them I often tape gauze pads to my feet. I do not experience the same relief from pain when I do this, just the comfort of the pad on my foot.
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clairenotes
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When I first started doing the foot detox baths, which is very similar, something 'pooled' in one of my toes. It turned a blackish color for about 1-2 weeks. Sometimes I wonder if it wasn't metals, but no way of knowing for sure. After that, all was fine.
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GiGi
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Here is Dr. K's "talk" about footpads that I posted before. We still use footpads on and off - for maintenance - and they still "deliver", sometimes more, sometimes less. We will always use them, because the exposure is present 24/7, more than ever. Yes,among some other undesirables, they help pull out heavy metals - we test them with ART.
Footpads
Medicinal dressings and salves to draw out toxins and even tumors have been used for centuries in Medicine.
A recent example is the castor oil pack on the liver area - a prescription first introduced by the medical trance medium Edgar Cayce which has been used by medical practitioners for almost a century.
In Europe, cantharis pads are used to irritate and break the skin and draw toxins from the lymphatic system.
In the 60s a Japanese healer introduced the idea to draw toxins :trom the soles of the feet using bamboo extract which had been fermented for many years. This method was used successfully to heal many cases of lymphoma and other formerly intractable illnesses.
Over the years new ideas and theories led to the development of different pads, which use a number of potent but very different ingredients (one of which is ground up gemstones).
The medicinal effect of the pads can be divided into 3 categories:
1. the energetic effect: the pads influence the underlying tissues by resonating healing frequencies into the area. This effect is purely based on physics and can be explained by the effect of electromagnetic fields, vector force fields and biophoton fields (research by Dr. Fritz Alfred Popp). In this application the pad may stay dry, harden a little bit, but may not change color or produce any other visible change. However, the clinical effect on the client's symptom may be profound.
2. the medicinal effect : people have been wearing copper bracelets for the treatment of arthritis. It has been found lately, that in these patients the copper levels in the tissues and blood really increase significantly. Copper is a potent antimicrobial agent. Similarly, the pads give off microscopic amounts of their respective healing ingredients to the underlying tissues. The pads can therefore be used to introduce healing agents gently into a selective area of the body. The skin acts as an active membrane: it absorbs only those substances and quantities, which are needed in that moment. It is difficult, to disturb a healthy environment with the application of a pad. It is easy, to introduce healing medication in a controlled way.
3. Absorption of biotoxins, xenobiotics and heavy metals: it has been demonstrated in laboratory tests that after an 8 hour application of the pads to the soles of the feet the pad may be em-iched with heavy metals, especially lead, arsenic, cadmium and mercury. The agents in the pad act as an ion exchange resin which draws from the blood toxins which have an affinity to the substances in the pad greater than the affmity which they have to the toxin binding substances in the blood (such as the porphyrin-ring of hemoglobin). The pad draws toxins from the lymphatics, veins and small arteries in the skin and also directly from the matrix of the surrounding tissues.
These three principles determine the application and use of the pads:
1. To use the pads in energy healing, the healer should master one of the bioenergetic diagnostic techniques such as autonomic response testing (ART - a form of kinesiology), electrodermal testing or Kirlian photography. In ART testing the practitioner can determine non-invasively, which tissues an stressed by toxins, infections or other types of illness. This may also apply to acupuncture points, chakras or autonomic ganglia. The pad is placed exactly over the area which is testing.
Another application is simply the placement of the pad over symptomatic areas such as an aching tooth or jaw joint, an inflamed thyroid or spinal joint or a compromised kidney. We have seen spectaclular improvements in the following:
Tooth and TMJ problems Cysts in the breast As an adjunct in tumor therapy (especially if the lymphatic system is involved) Headache and all other localized pain conditions Spinal problems Chronic kidney, stomach and gallbladder problems Immune thyroiditis
I am sure that there are many other possible applications. If the energetic effect is desired, the pad may only be applied one or two times to achieve the desired change and restoration of energetic health in the area.
2. Detoxification. Here the pads should be placed over areas, where the body naturally eliminates toxins through the skin. These are the areas where we sweat most strongly: the soles of the feet, the axilla, the groin, the sacral area, the front of the neck. Here the lymphatics are closest to the skin and able to exchange toxins to the surface of the skin. The lymph system is an active intelligent system, not a passive system of connected pipes as some may imagine it. The toxins regularly found in the used pads are Cadmium and lead. The dramatic effect on mercurv detoxification has been missed so far for a simple reason: metallic mercury at room temperature evaporates al}d forms a gas which is invisible, odorless and tasteless. When the pad is sent to a lab without knowing this, the mercury is long evaporated before the pad gets to the lab. However, if the pad is sealed in a metal container and a mercury vapor detector is used, often high levels of mercury escape the pad which has been worn for 8 hours or more. As soon as the transport problem is solved, a regular lab will be able to demonstrate the presence of mercury after using the pad.
Another way of demonstrating the presence of specific toxins is the use of ART: the direct resonance phenomenon allows to scan the used pad for the presence of otherwise hard to detect neurotoxins and xenobiotics. We found a profound effect on the elimination of Lyme neurotoxins, Babesia, PBDEs (flame retardants) and other man made chemicals. We use the pad as an adjunct in detoxification with the following indication:
Chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia Adjunct in the treatment of Lyme disease and co-infections Anti-aging medicine Heavy metal detoxification
I recommend to stick the pads on the feet so they work like an arch support. I prefer to use the pads during the day for 8-10 hours when the lymph system and the blood circulation is most active. The flow in the lymphatic system is dependent on the movement and contraction of the muscles.
In ART testing we found that a rhythm of 3 weeks on, 2-6 weeks off is most effective. Dependent on the condition of the patient I may recommend 1-3 cycles. If the patient has no improvement after completion of the first cycle (which is rare) other methods of treatment are asked for. I always use the pad in association with other detoxification methods, such as oral DMSA or cilantro.
We found that the pad decreases the amount of toxic metals eliminated over the kidney, which is highly desirable. The kidneys often get damaged during the process of toxin elimination. The pad draws the toxins via the skin out of the body sparing the kidneys. One could say, the pad becomes a third "throw-away" kidney.
3. Using the pad as medication:
There are 2 ways to establish the need for the pad. As a homeopathic doctor I would study the proovings of the individual ingredients of the pad.
The principles of homeopathy have been established by giving a particular agent in small doses to a volunteer for a few weeks and study the changes in the persons body and mind. Later, when a patient comes with these exact symptoms, the practitioner gives a homeopathic dilution of this same substance to the patient and often witnesses improvement in the patients condition. Establishing the proovings for the ingredients of the pad would give a clear indication as to when to use the pad.
However, as an ART practitioner I use the yin-state testing in ART. The pad is placed on a signal enhancer (proprietary instrumentation in ART) and the patient is evaluated with ART and HRV (heart rate variability) to see, if a parasympathetic healing state (yin state) is triggered by the presence of the pad in the field of the client. If the answer is yes, it predicts that the client will improve by using the pad. Again, yin state testing can now be used to establish, where on the body the pad should be placed.
Side effects:
The only side effect I have observed so far is the occasional irritation of the skin. In some cases this was a true allergy to the glue in the dressing material. In this case the pad cannot be applied with the tape provided and I switch to a non-allergic medical tape. I have also seen the eruption of chronic underlying fungal infections at the sole of the foot. I have published a paper on the relationship between heavy metals and fungi: fungi store metals in their cell wall and help the body to keep the toxins in a biologically contained form.
As we remove the metals from the fungi with the pad, the immune system starts to attack the fungi in the skin and there will be inflammation, skin eruptions and discomfort. In this case I use a medical, antifungal cream, evaluate the client's diet and change it. After the situation. is resolved it is, safe to return to the use of the pad.
Take care.
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northstar
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Gigi, Does he work with a particular brand (or brands, if he finds some work for some things better than others)?
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SForsgren
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I have used several and finally settled on the ones from HealthMarvels as they appear to be high quality and a good price. They are www.healthmarvelsdetoxpatch.com.
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I have had great luck with the marvel pads. I couldn't believe how they took the pain away from my feet. I originally ordered the cayene - not knowing any better. After a few days the severe pain was gone. I just ordered the blue ones after I realized they were the ones specific to lyme. I had gotten to where I couldn't stand to put any pressure on my foot at all without severe pain - so they were really a godsend for me.
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I just started using the foot pads last night, but my feet didn't hurt. It's probably too soon for me to tell though.
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sparkle7
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Thanks for the great info everyone (GiGi especially)! i tried another brand but the Health Marvels brand seems more focused & they have different "models" to try. I'm going to try them again when I have some spare cash.
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