Topic: Tick born Encephalitis: herb, supplements to help?
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Tick season is open here. This year will be a tougher year for those living in risk areas like us. My cat had ticks even during the winter, as it was too mild. Now he comes with bunch of tick every week!
I'll send my little daughter to a forest playgroup, so she'll be going to the woods and forests every week during the whole year. We live next to the woods, anyway.
I'm not considering vaccination against encephalitis... At least, not yet. She's too young and I'm not sure it's a good thing to do tons of vaccinations...
Which herbs/ supplements would help with this viral infection in the nervous system/ brain?
Any ideas besides vit C/ propolis/ royal jelly? Would echinacea be of help? St. John's wort?
I'm thinking to ask Buhner, but Planet trive is down today...
I have a plan to keep lyme away (as preventive), but I have no idea what to do to such a small kid (3 years old) to help prevent tick-born encephalitis...
Thanks for any input, Selma
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Phytotherapy for TBE- ******************************* 1: Vopr Virusol 1991 Jan-Feb;36(1):18-21
Experimental phytotherapy of tick-borne encephalitis.
Fokina GI, Frolova TV, Roikhel' VM, Pogodina VV.
The virucidal effect of aqueous extracts of a number of plants was studied in tick-borne encephalitis (TBE) virus titration in SPEV cell culture in microplates, as well as their capacity to induce resistance in virus-infected mice.
The aqueous extracts of ledum, motherwort, celandine, black currant, cowberry and bilberry inactivated TBE virus practically completely, and those of St. John's wort, pot marigold, tansy, chamomile, milfoil, and inula only partially.
Studied in vivo, the extracts of motherwort, ledum, tansy and black currant induced resistance of mice to TBE virus infection assessed by the increased survival rate of the animals and significant prolongation of the average longevity.
The degree of antiviral activity depended on the preparations used and the routes of their administration.
PMID: 1858353
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Selma, talk to your homeopathic doc about prevention.
I plan to take weekly doses of homeopathic Suphur 30x this year to help keep ticks away. I'm going to give the same to my dog.
I found this on a homeopathy board regarding natural tick and flea repellents. This was posted by a homeopathic veterinarian in the U.K.:
"I usually prescribe homeopathic Sulphur for this situation.
"This remedy has the reputation for making the skin less attractive to fleas [and other biting bugs] and in that way deterring them from living on the dog/animal.
"To maintain the right degree of acidity (pH value) give 1 dose of Sulphur 30x once a week for 6-8 weeks approx. (longer if necessary) and it'll chase away all kinds of skin parasites [he considers ticks and fleas to be parasites]. " One dose is 1 tablet or 3 coarse pellets/granules for small dogs and 2 tablets or 4-5 coarse pellets/granules for bigger dogs. (Coarse tablets are #35 pellets).
"At times of high risk, it's possible to give Sulphur 200c, dose 3 times weekly (same dose as mentioned above).
Now, if you KNOW that you or your pet was bitten by something - anything - you might want to keep some Ledum 30C on hand. It has been used successfully by Stephen Tobin, DVM, in Lyme treatment for dogs in an endemic area of Connecticut. http://www.faim.org/newslet/95-01/tobin.htm
I use Ledum 30C all the time on my cat who insists on getting beat up by other cats, and he never gets infected anymore. He used to be on antibiotics about once every 2 months.
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selma
do you frontline on your cat?
sorry I don't know the anwser to your question.
good luck & have a great summer blessings Dana
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Elderberry is a good antiviral, and it is tasty for kids. Lemon peel, or lemon zest can also have antiviral properties. Thyme is another one. I don't know how well these would work, though, once the virus has penetrated the brain.
I have been wearing this device called a Terminator Zapper. It is supposed to fend off all sorts of bacteria, viruses, fungi, and parasites(like worms).
My whole family got this awful flu strain and I didn't. The last little dippy feelings in my energy level are gone.
The person who developed this little gadget claims a curative effect on Lyme. I don't know about that yet. But I do feel good, and I do think it is boosting my immune response.
I think wearing something like that out in the woods might be helpful. I am certainly going to wear it now whenever I go out into the woods myself. I think this little device may help me get over my total phobia of being in certain rural areas in this country.
I wish they had a more miniature version for my animals.
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We used both herbs and homeopathy for prevention with some success. Here is a link to my favorite herb (lomatium) for prevention:
It was recommended that these types of herbs be rotated every few weeks, so I rotated lomatium with echinacea and thuja. But I wished I could just stay with lomatium all the time. I notice it is used in a popular adrenal support supplement called 'isocort' and I definitely felt that, too.
But I feel that homeopathy is much more child-friendly for 'taste' and for convenience.
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Keep it going - a wonderful thread!
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Many thanks for the posts. I'm studying each alternative, will post soon...
I have a nosode for TBE, but am not sure it works...
I just thought of frozen garlic ... shouldn't this work against viruses as well, as garlic is known for its antiviral properties? My daughter ate this powder in honey without problem during her lyme.
Farah, how long do you use this machine??
Selma
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CAVE, frontline works zero on my cat's ticks.
I don't know if the formula from here Germany/Switzerland is the same as you guys in the US. But it DOESN'T WORK AT ALL for my cat. It works against fleas.
But so does neem oil.
Manufacturer told me the ticks die after biting a cat that had used Frontline. NOT TRUE!!! Ticks stay the whole time in his skin, engorge, fall down and still 'move'. So they don't die. I've seen it in my cat over and over again. I can't pull off all ticks from him (in his ear, under his lips, on his eyelids...). He's half wild.
I'm already trying the sulphur homeopathic after TRACY's suggestion, but in another potency. It's 30K, not 30X. I hope my cat survives!!
Tomorrow I'll give him ledum, lower doses, see what happens. He's certainly a carrier of loads of germs, as he lives outside (he was born in the wild).
I'll buy the sulphur 200C just to see if it works for him and for us!!! If I notice any improvement on the number of ticks, I'll post here!
Last year, when I was on frozen garlic during the summer, I got no tick bite. Coincidence or not...?
Hebs posted by CALIFORNIA LYME are VERY INTERESTING. I'm reading about one by one! Many thanks!!!
And CLAIRE, I checked lomatium, but it seems recommended for lungs/ slime, not for cerebral/neural viral infections... Have you seen somewhere this works for neurological infections??
Farah, interesting device you found! Do you think this could do any harm? Please keep us posted if you feel it works.
Thanks a lot everybody! Selma
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Selma,
I'm not sure what the equivalent is of a "K" potency. I've heard of "CK" potencies in Europe and maybe that is the same thing - same thing as a C potency, just different way of diluting it.
I didn't mean to sound like I give my cat Ledum 30C constantly. What I meant to say was that I have to give it to him frequently because the crazy cat keeps getting beat up. Only when I find a scratch or a bite do I give the Ledum.
But, heck, if you find live ticks on your pet, then give a dose of Ledum for a couple of days "just in case" he got a bite.
Gee, I just realized I forgot to order my own Sulphur 30x. I'm glad this thread came back up.
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OK... I think lyme induced (tick bite)encephalitis is, or has the potential to be, a multi-level infection -- viral, bacterial, spirochete, (and quite possibly even fungal, as time goes on).
So, I was thinking that if your daughter had something in her bloodstream, while in her forest camp, that would kill any incoming microbial issue from a tick bite, it might prevent it from going 'neuro' so-to-speak.
Lomatium has worked very well for us as a preventative of various viral and bacterial winter infections, etc.
But can it be used as a kind of vaccination against 'the entire lyme package'? That would be a total unknown. I think it would be an unknown for all of the herbs mentioned, unfortunately.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Claire
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Tracy, K potency is Korsakov (sp??). Not many homeopaths use this, but I love the potency because of lack of precision in the process of fabrication.
I don't know if I ever seen an X potency here...
My cat is not very healthy lately. I wonder why. Parasites for sure... Already being treated. Second treatment I'll try is Ledum. I mean, I tried today!! Will continue for 3 days. I know homeopathy doesn't work if we dont' change potencies constantly.
I'll try sulphur prevention too. Today he came with not a tick. But I have to see in longer term.
I think I will do the homeopathy, garlic as preventive, and continue studying the herbs CALIFORNIA LYME posted, as they're specific against that viral infection.
I live in an endemic area for TBE.
Many of the herbs CALIFORNIA LYME wrote about seem to be quite safe, with longer history of use. I just have to find them. I think I know some of them, in the wild here.
Many thanks!
Selma
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Selma, that's what I discovred, too - about the K potencies... your post forced me to look some of this stuff back up, and I'm glad I did.
An "X" potency here would probably be a D or DH. Here's an excerpt I saved that helps explain the potencies in Europe vs. the U.S.:
quote:In Europe and some other parts of the world you will see the letter D or DH. This refers to decimal or 1/10 which is the same as X, here in the U.S.
Also in Europe the position of the number and letter designation are reversed. So you will see such designations as D5 or D10 which are equivalent to 5X and 10X.
You will also encounter CH and CK, these are equivalent to C, referring to the Centesimal or 1/100 dilution rate.
The H and K merely indicate the dilution method used. H indicates that the medicine was prepared according to the Hahnemann method and K the Korsakovian Method.
(On those occasions when I have to make my own remedies, I use the Korsakovian Method. It's sure a lot easier.)
Your "preventative plan" sounds like a good one. Many good suggestions here. I'd never heard of the Lomatium that Claire posted about (thanks, Claire!). Will have to look into that one.
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(Dang, I meant to put this in my last post.)
To substitute C potencies for X potencies (or vice versa):
A general rule is to double the C potency number to get the equivalent X potency. For example, 15C = 30X 6C = 12X
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So sorry Sarah! So much for skimming. I saw the research but missed where it stated the herbs were specific to TBE.
It sounds promising for the problem at hand.
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I have been wearing the zapper pretty constantly for two weeks now. It gets a little stingy sometimes and I move it somewhere else. Otherwise I don't feel it at all.
Supposedly, people who have Lyme pretty bad do herx from the device. I haven't herxed. I just feel incredibly energetic.
The only thing I notice is that my skin is somewhat drier than it was before I was using it. That is the only potential side effect that I have noted so far.
The guy who makes these zappers suggests people with Lyme wear the zapper constantly for a month to treat Lyme.
For preventative purposes with parasites and illnesses that people could pick up outdoors, I plan on wearing it while I am outdoors, and for a few days after, until the likelihood that anything that attached to me could infect me with something is gone.
The guy who makes the zappers has supposedly used them outdoors himself and prevented harmful reactions from poisonous spider bites and such.
It is also supposed to kill bacteria, fungi, viruses, and worms.
It is mild, and low power, so I notice I need to already have it on for at least a few hours to feel a difference, but I definitely do feel one. I am pretty healthy already, so I don't know if others would feel a more drastic change than I have.
The testimonials on his site from people with chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and other illnesses that are similar to Lyme, or that may be misdiagnosed Lyme, seem to indicate a strong positive effect.
People also seem to have used it on their pets with positive effects, but I think it would be challenging to tape one onto a cat.
I am still taking my usual supplements along with using the zapper, but I am taking them less frequently and staying healthy and stable.
Farah
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Artemisia is just a wonder herb/ drug*)!*)!! Helpful in breast cancer , as a cancer prophhylactic- in Crohns disease- and against Flavirirae- which the TBE virus is!!!!!!!!! ********************************************** 1: Planta Med. 2006 Oct;72(13):1169-74. Epub 2006 Aug 10. Links
Antiviral effect of artemisinin from Artemisia annua against a model member of the Flaviviridae family, the bovine viral diarrhoea virus (BVDV).
Romero MR, Serrano MA, Vallejo M, Efferth T, Alvarez M, Marin JJ. Laboratory of Experimental Hepatology and Drug Targeting (HEVEFARM), University of Salamanca, Salamanca, Spain.
The antiviral activity versus flaviviruses of artemisinin, a safe drug obtained from Artemisia annua and commonly used to treat malaria, has been investigated using as an IN VITRO model bovine epithelial cells from embryonic trachea (EBTr) infected with the cytopathic strain Oregon C24V, of bovine viral diarrhoea virus (BVDV), which is a member of the Flaviviridae family.
Antiviral activity was estimated by the degree of protection against the cytopathic effect of BVDV on host cells and by the reduction in BVDV-RNA release to the culture medium.
To induce an intermediate cytopathic effect in non-treated cells, EBTr cells were first exposed to BVDV for 48 h and then incubated with virus-free medium for 72 h. Ribavirin and artemisinin (up to 100 microM) induced no toxicity in host cells, whereas a slight degree of toxicity was observed for IFN-alpha at concentrations above 10 U/mL up to 100 U/mL.
Treatment of infected cells with IFN-alpha, ribavirin and artemisinin markedly reduced BVDV-induced cell death. A combination of these drugs resulted in an additive protective effect.
These drugs induced a significant reduction in the production/release of BVDV virions by infected EBTr cells; there was also an additive effect when combinations of them were assayed.
These results suggest a potential usefulness of artemisinin in combination with current pharmacological therapy for the treatment of human and veterinary infections by flaviviruses.
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Oh guys, I have lost this thread, and now I see so many good answers here!!
I'm posting here a summary:
- aqueous extracts (?) of ledum, motherwort and black current (kill TBE in vitro and improve health in vivo).
- good antiviral (Flavirirae specific): artemisinin
- good antivirals: eldelberry, thyme, garlic, lomatium, thuya,
- TBE homeopathic nosodes
- Terminator Zapper.
I gotta go, will come back later. Selma
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FARAH, thanks a lot for the more precise info on this Zapper. It looks a very interesting device.
Do you mean it get stingy in contact with your body? I get stingy feelings with the KMT when my body lacks moisture or when it lacks electrolytes (on the contact with eletrodes).
I'll ask Biotools if the KMT has a frequency against TBE (program 4 maybe??).
Thanks a lot you all. TRACY, thanks for the X = D explanation! It's like a language translation problem!
And I would like to share a VERY INTERESTING STORY about sulphur homeopathic to my poor cat.
I had given the 30 K sulphur for 2 days before I left to a trip. Then when I came back, about 1 week later, I found so far 49 ticks on him. He's still got some left.
The first 35 ticks I got on day 1 were alive. I started giving the homeopathic sulphur, both the D30 and C200. The second 6 ticks I pulled off next day, I dont' remember, I just burned them before looking closely. I gave him more sulphur homeopathic again. Then yesterday, I took 8 ticks (he's still got some left), and interestingly, they looked dead. I put them in a glass and waited.
They usually move their legs when they're pulled off. Nope, there were only 2 tiny ones moving (these were ON THE BODIES of the big ticks, but were not attached to my cat). I frequently see a 'phenomenum' here with my cat that almost all big ticks come with at least one small ticks attached to their bodies. I wonder why, it's a VERY COMMON thing. The smaller ones won't be attached.
I didn't see my cat today to pull some more ticks and check if they live or not. But I WONDER IF THE SULPHUR homeopathic (or not) KILLS TICKS??? Or I coincidentally killed all of them while pulling them off? They look intact though.
I hope I'm not going to kill my cat with this experiment. But this was extremely exciting!
Well, Korsakov potencies are not very common even here in Europe, I only can find them in Belgium (and I think France has it too). It's a more 'complete' way of fabrication because the process is less "precise", leaving more room for variations (that's at least how I understand).
The H potencies (= all of the rest) are very homogeneous, the globules will have the exact same concentration while in Korsakov, the 'concentration' may vary slightly from globule to globule, which makes it a very interesting to be used (my interpretation!).
I find Korsakov formulas specially interesting because of individual's different needs of homeopathic potencies and because homeopathy ceases to work if you insist using same potency long (a few weeks, in my experience). Because of heterogeneity, it'll take longer (in theory) to get 'resistant' to the formulas K than H (my homeopath's explanation, or at least, how I understood).
Look at the trial I'm doing with my cat and myself with this sulphur. We'll have to use the same potency for a long time (whole tick season!) so I have fears it can work well in the beginning, and lose effectiveness after a few weeks.
So what I'm doing is: I bought the D30 potency and the 200C. I guess it would be better to even buy an intermediate potency, let's say D60 or so. Then I would make a mix into the proportions D30 (70%, let's say), D60 (20%) and C200 (10%). And take, let's say, about 7 globules (small ones) every day or every 2-3 days. Maybe for my cat, it's better to give only 3 as suggested by Tracy and not everyday.
I can substitute D for K, which would also help. But the problem is that I don't find these K here in Germany/ Switzerland. So, I'm using the H.
I wouldn't recommend anyone doing that to their cats without consulting a knowledgeable veterinarian. But I was sooooo scared of all those ticks on him that I tried like that. I guess I'll lower the dose and give him only 3x a week maximum.
I'm preparing a question for Buhner too concerning herbs.
Selma
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Farah,
"I have been wearing this device called a Terminator Zapper. It is supposed to fend off all sorts of bacteria, viruses, fungi, and parasites(like worms)."
Could you post the exact type of Terminator Zapper you are using and where you purchased it.
Thank you.
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I posted the question on TBE herbs to Buhner in Planet Thrive, now will wait for the answer.
Hopefully Farah will drop in for answering...
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Oh dear, Selma - I did not think the Sulphur would kill ticks, just repel them, and it doesn't look like that worked, so far.
I am in touch with the homeopathic vet who I think made this recommendation. (There were two ``Williams'' posting at once and I'm not sure which one gave the above recommendation on the Sulphur.)
Why don't I copy some of what you have written and present it to him and see if he has any suggestions or insight on this? I will get back to you with what he says.
(I don't dare tell him about your plan to ``mix potencies'' - he will probably have a heart attack. He is NOT very adventuresome when it comes to experimenting with remedies - he goes very much by ``the rules''.)
Since you have concerns about your pets and use homeopathy, you may want to post questions to the website where this animal homeopath is the Moderator. He is currently in the Netherlands, and he has REALLY helped me with my dog's arthritis and neurological problems! He seems to be a very knowledgeable and dedicated individual: Here is the website if you are interested in the future: http://www.otherhealth.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44
By the way, do you know what species of tick it is that is on your cat? (Just curious).
Since you are using the Sulphur as a preventative and not a treatment, perhaps your cat (or you) will not get ``resistant'' to the remedy. In fact, I would be more worried about the opposite happening - that after frequent, repeated doses, you or your cat would ``prove'' the remedy and take on some of its symptoms.
Anyway, I will see what the homeopathic vet has to say and report back.
Tracy
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Tracy,
there's a company called Similasan here in Switzerland that does mixing of potencies. Just check their website. Their products are sold EVERYWHERE here and also in Germany, very popular. People buy them over the counter.
Every person I know here with kids knows Similasan products. So I hope I didn't do bad to mix potencies...
I don't know if it prevented bites or not.
30K didn't, at least it didn't have effect for 1 week. I didn't think it was going to kill ticks either, but I'm wondering what could have killed those ticks. Their skin were not bright like usual as I pulled them, that's why I was wondering if they were already dead.... Soo strange.
But most of the 8 last ticks I pulled off were on his neck, I just remember that it's where I applied neem oil a month ago (28 days ago)... So it could be the neem ??
I'm only using the 200C potency now AFTER I took 35 ticks off, so I don't know if this larger potency works YET. I have to once pull all his ticks off to start the experiment, but it's still not a task I could finish. He's semi-wild, he can bite or scratch me if I insist touching his wounds/ ticks.
Wait to see if the 200C will fail for sure. I don't know yet. I'll still give it for longer. And to see if the ticks away from Neem area are ALSO dead. I mean, before you make the vet this question.
Thanks anyway for the willingness to help my cat!
And the interesting site you suggested. But as I read the horse lyme thread, no one suggested any homeopathy preventative for tick bites there so far....
I'll post here about my experiments. My cat is not coming home everyday, probably too busy with the love season So the experiment will take a bit longer!
Thanks anyway. I'll keep posted.
Selma
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I asked Biotools: KMT program 4 has TBE virus frequency.
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Selma,
Have you given your kitty any Ledum? Boy, with that many ticks attached to him, I would give a dose of Ledum 30C for a couple of days. I don't want your cat to ``prove'' Ledum, but as many ticks as you have there, perhaps relying on the Ledum as an infection preventative would be an option.
You could rotate it with Hypericum 30C, which is another great preventative for puncture-type wounds, and ticks do ``puncture'' us, just like mosquitoes. Hypericum is often recommended after a tick bite - just not as often as I've seen the Ledum recommended.
Well, some bad news.
I had already written to the animal homeopath about what you posted, and here is what he said:
quote:Hi Tracy,
Potencies C and K are equal in strength. They are both C potencies.
Homeopathic Sulphur isn`t used to repel ticks, but only for the very tiny parasites such as fleas.
Sulphur in potency doesn`t kill any parasites, but only makes the skin of the animal (far) less attractive for them, so the dead ticks you mention are just a coincidence.
Non-homeopathic Sulphur (the yellow Sulphur powder) is sometimes said to kill ticks but I haven't seen any proper proof yet. Would be a funny sight as well if we powdered our pet yellow all over time and again......
Regular grooming and checking and mowing the lawns/pastures regularly, as I mentioned earlier for the horses, is still the best prevention and perhaps a safe tick repellent from your vet.
He also included a link about various tick collars, but they are all for DOGS.
So, apparently I was misinformed about the use of homeopathic Sulphur to repel adult ticks.
Now, before you stop using the Sulphur altogether, please consider the fact that it is POSSIBLE that the Sulphur will help keep the tiny nymph ticks away, but not the adult ticks. I know that is not stated in the above post, but he refers to ``the very tiny parasites'' and perhaps nymph ticks would be affected.
The other bad news is that this homeopathic vet has left the forum I just referred you to!! The Administrator of the forum decided to delete many threads posted by this vet, and he quit the forum. Can't say as I blame him, but the bottom line is that he is the reason most of us continued to go there.
Sorry I am the bearer of all bad news this morning!
I wonder if those ticks that died were ``on their last legs'' anyway from the winter? Oddly, though, I have a friend with Lyme (and MS), and she says that now every tick that bites her DIES! Maybe your cat has some similar ability to kill ticks!
Tracy
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Tracy, many thanks again...
Yes, it may be a good idea the Hypericum. I got some here in my homeo pharmacy. Probably the Apis melifica too? Poor cat.
The sulphur so far is not working as repellent for sure. Yesterday he came with a HUGE tick (I can't describe it, it has the size of my finger tip) on his FACE, just at the base of a whisker. No way to pull that one off. Too sensitive.
This huge tick was definitively not there 2-3 days ago, so it's a brand new one for sure. It looked bright, so it seemed alive so far. I couldn't check his body as I had to leave for my naturopath.
He's getting so nervous, he's behaving strange maybe because of so many bites and wounds, he can't relax even 2-3 minutes without scratching.
He really looks almost 100% wild now. He doens't want me to touch him. I wonder what's going on with him. If this is love season only. Or some neurolyme?? Today, no sign of him. I hope he survives this ordeal. I guess I have to take him to the vet. I'm just wanting to clean him before someone sees him in this condition. I feel ashamed that he has so many beasts...
He doesn't come home hungry even after 2-3 days, so he's definitively hunting around. And catching more ticks, of course.
I never found any nymph on him since he was born. I only find small ones, tiny, but already dark in color (so I suppose, not more nymphs).
My daughter catches nymphs though!
I got a profilatic treatment for TBE for her by my naturopath, I'll post about that later.
Gotta go, thanks again, I still wonder how to solve this situation for my cat.
I do believe lots of garlic ingestion works for people (to become less attractive to beasts), but I can't give it to him.
Anyone here knows how to muscle test a cat?
Selma
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hardynaka
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I forgot, yes I'm giving him some Ledum. Globules dissolved in water and added to a bit of food before his meal. I hope it works like that.
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Selma, that's what I do with my cat, too - add a few drops of dissolved pellets to his food. It has worked, so far.
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My naturopath's profilatic treatment for TBE, before I forget to post this:
- D2 propolis (homeopathic): 2-3 drops, 2-3 times a day whole year;
- 1/2 teaspoon of Biprolex + 3-5 drops of propolis tincture + tiny spoon of royal jelly (biprolex is taken 2 times a day, plus propolis, but not royal jelly, if I understood well) whole year/ or tick season;
- Ledum homeopathic C30 (if bitten)
- garlic clove juice pressed on the tick bite (I didn't ask for how long though... I suppose a few days?).
- add frozen garlic if bitten by a tick.
I guess this is not only profilatic for TBE but for borrelia too. It's not specific.
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Today, no sign of him. I hope he survives this ordeal. I guess I have to take him to the vet. I'm just wanting to clean him before someone sees him in this condition. I feel ashamed that he has so many beasts...![[bonk]](graemlins/bonk.gif)
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