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Kayda
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Hi,

If you just discovered a tick, do you need 200mg of Doxy for 28 days? I saw somewhere it says, even 400mg.

My BIL just discovered an engorged tick on him.

Thanks for your help!

Kayda

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According to the research by IDSA guys, NO!!

According to LLMDs and all those Lyme patients
I know in person, HECK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least*)!! For a grown man, 400 is what I see being given, not 200!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i would take at least 400mg.

a little more abx now can save ALOT of suffering in the future

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I agree with Cave. Two years ago one of my son's llmds said two months or longer.
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quote:
Originally posted by cave76:
If it were me-----nothing less than 400 mg for about 4 months!

I'm not a doctor. Do not consider that medical advice. [Smile]

DITTO!!!!!!
As much as I hate taking abx, I might quit at 3 mo!!

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Kayda
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Hi,

I told him what you said and he's calling his dr. right now. He doesn't have the tick anymore--it's gone. If his dr. won't work with him, he can see my LLMD. I"m sure he will help him. But, that's such a big expensive. It would be better if his dr. just wrote a proper script.

This is definitely a case where "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!!!!!"

Kayda

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Reports & studies show bb in the cns within hours of tick exposure. For this reason alone I would not take less than 300mg. It takes at least 300 mg to cross the BB barrior.

I only weigh 95 lbs but have taken 400 mg a day for several years at no real side effects other than some mild nausea.

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200mg is bacteriostatic, not bacteriocidal. At least 400mg is needed and I agree with three or four months - just make sure he's careful in the summer sun.

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4 months- 400 mg aday doxi

Side effects from doxi -No big deal--
Lyme and co infections Will ruin your life-Jay-

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groovy2

"4 months- 400 mg aday doxi

Side effects from doxi -No big deal--
Lyme and co infections Will ruin your life-Jay-"
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DITTO!! Lyme & co's will ruin your life big time than any side effects from doxy [Frown]
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knowing what i know now, i would take it for atleast 4 months like everyone says.

but honestly i would take it for a year just to make sure it is gone. But unless you have acne or an LLMD a regular dr wont prescribe for that long.

So 400mg for as long as his dr will prescribe.

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200mg Doxy is probably just enough to scare the little buggers into hiding. Just enough to let them creep throughout your body to all parts including the brain.

200 doxy-Just enough for you to become familiar with all the specialists in your insurance network-the gastroenterologist,neurologist, urologist, opthamologist, psychologist,dermatologist, endocrinologist, rheumotolgist.

Treating lyme with 200 mg for 28 days - just enough to make sure you're bankrupt and on disability in no time.

Then again-you could go to an LLMD. One stop shopping you might say. Eliminate the middle man-it will save you a lot of time, money and heartache in the long run.

200mg for 28 days????? for what? Certainly NOT lyme disease.

Carol


Your choice- be proactive now

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I was initially prescribed 200 mg of doxy a day by a duck.

All it seemed to do is "mask" my symptoms slightly.

I herxed for the full 30 days of 200 mg of doxy.

The most I've taken was 300mg a day, but I only weighed 127lbs when dx.

Now, I weigh 108.

My husband, who weighs 160 lbs took 400 mg a day.

Of course, he was dx about 5 months after me and was able

to benefit from all of the mistakes the ducks made with me.

He also has only seen our LLMD for this....

It was bad enough that I had to be tortured by those ducks.

Good luck.

Hugs,

Geneal

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For a tick bite it is 400 mg per day of Doxy for 6 weeks. Co-infections must also be addressed!
200 mg is the wrong dose!

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Hi,

I just found out he's taking 100mg. He said he feels 100% better. When he got the script, he loaded up and took 400 mg in less than 24 hours, maybe that jump-started him to getting well.

I told him if he gets flu-like symptoms then he should take more, or if his antibiotic has run out that he should get another script.

He was going to see my LLMD--he called to set up an appt., but the cost was SO prohibitive. I sure wish LLMD's weren't so expensive. I really think some of them gouge us--not all, but some, do. it's tough to see an LLMD for $300+ dollars when you can see your GP for $50-75. Granted, there is a WHOLE WORLD of difference, but still!

Kayda

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quote:
Originally posted by Cobweb:
200mg Doxy is probably just enough to scare the little buggers into hiding. Just enough to let them creep throughout your body to all parts including the brain.

no kidding [shake]

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kay, you talked about the $300 cost for our MIDWEST LLMDS!

i'd hate to be on the east/west coast with their being from $650 - $750 some PER HOUR! [cussing]

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quote:
Originally posted by bettyg:
kay, you talked about the $300 cost for our MIDWEST LLMDS!

i'd hate to be on the east/west coast with their being from $650 - $750 some PER HOUR! [cussing]

Betty,
It's outrageous, isn't it!!!! [toilet]

I wish there were some way to slow down the cost. I really doubt (most of) the drs. are hurting financially & have to charge that much.

Kayda

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quote:
Originally posted by cave76:
If it were me-----nothing less than 400 mg for about 4 months!

I'm not a doctor. Do not consider that medical advice. [Smile]

Over-kill? I don't think so.

That's what I would do.

My Duc was shocked when I told him I took more than 200mg of Doxy a day, FOR ANYTHING. More shocked than WHERE I told him I got it from.

Jim [Cool]

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quote:
Originally posted by Penn92:
200mg is bacteriostatic, not bacteriocidal.

Do you have any articles from MD's/medical journals/organizations to that effect? I'm looking for some support for this to give to my wife's PCP tomorrow. Wife was given RX of 200mg doxy for 14 days after deer tick bite and lyme symptoms 6 days later.

I have Dr. B's dosage recommendations, but I'd like to present a few different sources. I'm a little nervous that the PCP may view us as non-compliant patients and deny us the prescription since we doubled my wife's dosage to 400mg right from day one. So we'll be out of doxy in only 7 days (4 days from now).


Thanks.

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JimBob,

Why would he be shocked? High dose antibiotics are used for all kinds of stubborn, serious infections. Sounds like a duck to me!

Btw, WHERE did you get the Doxy?

Kayda

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quote:
Originally posted by Slowmo:
quote:
Originally posted by Penn92:
200mg is bacteriostatic, not bacteriocidal.

Do you have any articles from MD's/medical journals/organizations to that effect?
I actually just found one myself at: http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/33/7/1078

It's from 1989 and only had 22 subjects, but it's something:

Department of Infectious Diseases, University of Gteborg, Sweden.

ABSTRACT

Twelve patients were treated orally with 100 mg of doxycycline twice a day (b.i.d.) and 10 patients were treated with 200 mg b.i.d. for suspected tick-borne neuroborreliosis (Lyme borreliosis). At 5 to 8 days after the start of therapy, the mean concentrations in serum were 4.7 micrograms/ml for the doxycycline dose of 100 mg b.i.d. and 7.5 micrograms/ml for 200 mg b.i.d., 2 to 3 h after the last drug administration. The corresponding levels for cerebrospinal fluid were 0.6 and 1.1 micrograms/ml. Since a doxycycline concentration in cerebrospinal fluid above the estimated MIC for Borrelia burgdorferi (0.6 to 0.7 microgram/ml) is wanted in patients treated for severe neuroborreliosis, the higher dose is preferable.

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Slowmo....I don't have that info for you....but I would suggest going to a NEW duck.

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