My ND who uses a lot of chinese medicine gave me a couple of chinese herbal formulas for the co-infections yesterday (I probably have mycoplasma) and boom, I got anxiety, insomnia and restlessness. Didnt sleep much last night and now I feel quite anxious, nervous and shaky.
I wonder what happened. Did the herbs start killing bugs right away in the brain and cause these symptoms? Can that stuff really be that powerful and quick? I though it would take like weeks to notice anything. Any experiences?
Maybe no-one has even heard about these products but the formulas are "Astragalus 16" and "Scrophularia 12".
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BF
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MariaA
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I posted in the Buhner yahoogroup the other day that I often get an initial 'increased energy' response when I start a new herb. It dies down after a few days. B-12 did the same thing- initial too-much-coffee type of a "high" which eventually went away with continued use.
In my case, this can manifest as mild insomnia and 'pro-stress' (ie I want to do lots of work and check things off my 'to-do' list) for me. For others with psychological manifestations of Lyme, I suspect it would look like anxiety (which I happen to not be prone to).
Or something could be wrong, this is just my experience. Several different herbs have done this. I think if you're taking astragalus it could be a temporary energy-booster even without Lyme.
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Astragalus is generally only used in stage I Lyme, since it stimulates the entire immune system. It is usually not recomended for late stage Lyme (see Buhner's book).
I can have neuro reactions within 1-2 hours of increasing my dosage of Samento, including Lyme rages, increased pain to the point of almost not being able to straighten up and walk, and insomnia.
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In my experience, it certainly can. It can be either a herx or an allergic reaction?
What are the herbs you are on?
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Sorry, I just saw now... Astragalus, yes, I've been taking on and off. I never notice anything directly too fast though. But from andrographis, yes.
Buhner recommends astragalus at any new reinfection.
I have been recently reinfected. I do muscle tests, and it's testing great now. But I had taken it during my old infection too, depending on what tests what.
I would also be careful with herbal mixes, unless muscle tested, as many lyme sufferers react with allergies or intolerances.
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Are these the formulas you're taking, from Seven Forest?
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