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I don't know. You looked it up in something like www.drugdigest.com ??
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IF she doesn't mind taking a chance on losing her colon, IT might work, but I woudn't use it IF I were her unless she either has no colon like me, or she doesn't mind having some more bad luck.
Cipro is know for destroying colons. Three that I know of here, including my own.
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Jim. Thanks for the warning! I had no idea Cipro did that! I knew it was risky for Lyme because of permanent tissue/arthritis complications but not losing your colon!
Anyone who's interested in the Floxacins/ Floxins? should Google Ciprofloxacin (sp?) and damage(s). I ran across a website of people who had suffered severe complications and permanent damage from this class of abx. If anyone finds the site, would you please post it?
I remember reading how horribly sick these folks were and I remember thinking the drugs had unleashed latent Bb in these poor people and that they would never know and their doctors were never going to tell them so.
Sorry for the downer info.
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My duck prescribed Cipro for my Lyme, as he said, because since I had already lost my Colon, it shouldn't hurt me anymore. And it did work for about 8 or 9 months and then I relapsed.
I was also his FIRST client who had to lose his colon. He said TWO women lost theirs after me, and FROM CIPRO. HE said it wsa a very powerful abx that did it's job, but unfortuately it was a destroyer of colons for a lot of people. Not all people, but who knows?
He had given me Cipro years earlier for another problem
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JimBoB: what do you mean by losing your colon? is your colon "amputated"?
I have used cipro in fairly high doses 1500mg-2000mg for a little year now.. this has made me a little sceptical about using it.
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quote:Originally posted by peter j: JimBoB: what do you mean by losing your colon? is your colon "amputated"?
I have used cipro in fairly high doses 1500mg-2000mg for a little year now.. this has made me a little sceptical about using it.
PETER:
Are you saying you have taken it for a year or more? IF so, what the heck are you taking something like that FOR?
And YES, my WHOLE colon has been 'amputated' as you say. OR I am "surgically 'cured'" as my surgeon told me after it was done. I nearly died from Acute Chronic Colitis, back in 94. I mean literally. My surgeon said he HAD to operate the night he did, because I would not make it till morning. I believe him 100%. I told HIM, "IF you can't CURE me, just let me die. I can't take this any more". So, he did, CURE me that is; surgically.
THEN my DUCK prescribed Cipro for ME later when he THOUGHT I had Lyme. BUT only for 24 days. HE also told me at THAT time, that Cipro is really good and really bad. IF you don't have colon problems from it, it can really kill a lot of bacteria that you want to get rid of. BUT THREE of us just in this little area of Wisconsin, have lost our colons from it. THAT is the ones I KNOW of. IS there more, I do not know. I ONLY report what I know. I do NOT try to talk about things I know nothing of.
I would NEVER take Cipro AGAIN, IF I had a COLON. I personally would NEVER take Cipro again for late Lyme or Chronic Lyme Disease, either. IT CANNOT cure it IMHO. Neither can any other antibiotic, in at least 40% of the people that get Lyme Disease. It ain't gonna happen.
IF you want to "FEEL" better, get on a GOOD herbal protocol. Will IT cure chronic Lyme disease. IMHO, NO. BUT it WILL make MOST people "feel" better, and NOT so sick, therefore healthier.
There is NO cureall for this hideous disease. NONE. EVERYONE is struggling in TRYING to cure this thing. YOUR immune system is the BEST thing on this earth to HELP YOU to FIGHT this thing. SO, IF you want to feel "better", get your immune system built up. DON'T destroy it with years and years of antibiotics. IF you just got bit, and catch the disease right away, probably at least 60% of the people on this earth will be "cured" of Lyme D.. PROBABLY!
Hope this helps you a little at least. YOU have to make any and all FINAL decisions. IT is YOUR body. IT is not mine, or your doctors and anyone else's. It IS yours!
Sorry, I didn't get to you earlier, but I haven't been on this group for awhile. I tried last week, but it must have been shut down again, as I couldn't get through.
I'm on a break from cipro now, but yes, I have used it for a little year, in fairly high doses.
I looked up colitis in wikipedia, and I see that people can benefit from reduced carbo intake. I'm on a zero sugar diet, which I think would help reduce the risk of this side effect.
Was you on a special diet at the time when you got this problem?
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I've been on clips of Cipro on and off over the years - 7 to 10 days or whatever the protocol is.
Gosh, this is scary. I didn't know this either.
But herbs only work so much. I honestly think the 'cure' for Lyme is to turn off cell phones and wireless.
Google 'cell phones, health effects' or 'The Biggest Biological Experiment Ever'.
These manmade electromagnetic fields are causing Lyme to cross the blood-brain barrier. They are also disrupting the body's ability to produce key digestive enzymes and hindering its ability to repair itself.
There are scientists out there who believe this experiment continues merely because of economic reasons - NOT a lack of proof. I'm not sure which is scarier now.
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THere is NO cure for Lyme.
And yes, the electromagnetic fields are very bad for it. They are very bad if you don't even have Lyme.
THAT includes being in front of these computers all day, like I have today. I really feel worse when I am here for more than a half hour at a time, and it has been about 12 hours at it today so far. (Usually 3 or more hours a day).
NO, Peter, I was not on a special diet when taking Cipro. I still am not, though i know it would be better for my Lyme. Maybe some day, I will meet up with a good cook, who will straighten me out.
Oh, yes, Peter; I have NO COLON at all. Only the small intestine.
Peter, WHY do you want to keep taking Cipro then? It certainly is NOT going to CURE you. IF it didn't do it in a year, it NEVER will.
Go the herb route. It will do much more positive things for you. I was never on herbs of any kind before I went with Buhner's protocol; and I never want to be without them again. They have been like a miracle for me.
I couldn't do hardly anything before I started taking the herbs 19 months ago. Now, I am not perfect, but many times better than I was back then. I felt like I was going to die, everyday back then. I do NOT feel that way anymore.
Taking abx WITH the herbs only set me back. The only abx I have had since February 2006 is a little amoxycillin for other infections.
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I actually did pretty good with herbs initially. I took wormwood complex, black walnut, and cloves - a bunch of others as well - but with the first combo, I actually passed ricelike thingermabobs.
I think I overdid it though. I didn't know I could have something multiplying in and clogging my liver, and my liver couldn't handle my newfound diet evidently. So now herbs make me sicker. I get wicked reactions to garlic, onion, cinnamon, goldenseal/myrrh, oregano - to name just a few.
But I DO think there IS a cure for Lyme - turn off ALL manmade EMFs - including cell phones, wireless, cordless phones, and even the 60 hz frequency running through the everyday electrical outlet.
These currents are causing HARMLESS pathogens (like Lyme) to become HARMFUL, as they are able to cross the protective blood-brain barrier where the immune system cannot touch them.
We are essentially 'preprogrammed' to get messages from the earth to detoxify and heal, but our immune systems either cannot 'hear' the messages they were meant to 'hear' with all this electromagnetic noise - or they can 'hear' but just can't seem to get the immune system to go somewhere it was never preprogrammed to go.
I honestly think I was borderline anorexic when I was younger because I knew I felt less bloated if I didn't eat - less anxious, too. I also think I moved to the boonies in one last dire effort to not be microwaved to death.
If you don't think there IS a cure for Lyme, read 'Cross Currents' by Robert Becker. Also, 'The Body Electric'. After you read this, you'll change your mind - there IS a cure for Lyme - and you'll be astounded that these dangerous EMFs were permitted in the first place.
We've all been snowed as to the safety of even alternating current - DIRECT CURRENT is the ONLY safe current. Cell phones and wireless, however, threaten to 'short out' the planet in the very near future. Not to scare anybody, but I truly believe this.
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Hi groovy. It is my understanding that Doxycycline is the best med for Ehrlichiosis. I think Dr. B. recommends Rifampin in cases that do not respond to Doxy.
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TWO problems Tailz.
YOU were on the wrong herbs for Lyme, and since you will NEVER get the world to get rid of their cell phones, OR electricity, you STILL won't get cured of Lyme.
You can only do the best you can to deemphasize these negative elements in your life. Lets face it, EVERYTHING is the BIG SELL. Bottom line is, BOTTOM LINE.
It ain't gonna change!
NOT until this whole system is destroyed first. Then things will start from scratch again and will get better.
So, LIVE with the Spirochetes and let them live with YOU. NOBODY is "cured" from Lyme. SOME are in remission, as long as they keep improving their life style.
It IS good to preach like you are since you are right, electricity IS bad for us. I have known this for about 25 years. But guess what? It falls on deaf ears. People really ONLY care about themselves and the right now. And what they can get. For the most part.
Take care of yourself. And IF you want the RIGHT herbs, read the Healing Lyme book by Stephen Buhner. HIS choices are systemic and SHOULD help you to be able to co-exist with those dreaded Chetes.
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JimBob - those weren't the only herbs I took. I just mentioned those because I know for a fact that they killed VISIBLE worms.
I have just about every herb and spice you can think of - sitting in a box because they all make me sick now. Whatever version of these bugs I have, they just aren't budging.
But I know what you are saying - live your life the best you can - and I AM - just BY telling the world about electromagnetic chaos and its dangers - don't you see that?
Sure, most people will read my posts here and think - what's the use? Yeah, EMFs are a problem, but it ain't ever going to change, so shut up already, lady. In fact, just a year or so ago, I was one of these myself.
BUT as you can see, I can't sit back idly any longer and accept a polluted planet that is making my life miserable, killed a dozen of my pets, has me manually trying to detox and consciously trying to work my immune system, and will ultimately make my only child sick one day - and her kids. She's 20.
More and more people are getting angry that the world is this polluted - in all respects - and if you look at the number of people running this show and compare it to the number of people in this country - why are we taking this? - why haven't we all done something?
There's power in numbers, and I think that's what I'm hoping to accomplish here. Even if just one person on here becomes a tree hugger like me - then that's one more.
When you say cell phones will never go though - I have to disagree with you. They HAVE to go.
Because they literally are going to make the sun 7 times hotter when the planet essentially short circuits - I think it's a 7 - I'm pretty sure that's what the Bible says.
I know you will think I've really lost it, but I can tell you - the sun IS getting hotter. How do I know this? Because I'm SO toxic with chemicals and was radiated to death by everybody else's cell phones for so long, that I can actually FEEL the excess heat coming from the sun.
It feels brighter and hotter to me. I even felt this during the winter months.
Is it 7 times hotter yet? I think we all will KNOW when that day comes. But I can tell you this - that day is fast approaching. In fact, I think it will happen in my lifetime.
So please don't think I'm fretting over this and not living my life. Fretting over this has become my life - it's become that crucial to me.
I have no idea why either.
Edit: This is going to bother me - I think the Bible might say the sun will become 7 times BRIGHTER - same thing, but I had to say that;)
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