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My doctor's appointment was postponed, so I do not yet have the results of my malaria retest. If you recall, my first malaria test came back 'equivocal', though my babesia tests have consistently been negative.
I've been reading about malaria, and it appears that you don't have to go too far back in history to find malaria in the US. Scroll to maps:
Since I was born in 1965 (not long after malaria was 'eradicated' in the US), is it possible my mother had malaria and did not know it, possibly passing it on to me?
Shouldn't we ALL be tested since most of us about died from whatever illness we have?
I seriously wonder how long it would take for something to reach epidemic proportions before scientists would realize an 'old' disease was back?
I'm especially concerned because I was reading that meds like doxy treat certain forms of malaria, and mino gave me one of my biggest herxes yet. I know I'm not alone on here, too, with that last statement.
Some of the available drugs include quinine (which may be why British expatriates seem to favor gin and tonic! Tonic water has quinine...), quinidine, mefloquine, chloroquine, atabrine,
tetracycline, doxycycline, primaquine (to eradicate the hibernating forms of ovale and vivax), proguanil, malarone, and artemesenin compounds which Chinese physicians have been prescribing for millennia to treat fevers.
I'm just worried that Lyme may be secondary to perhaps a return of an 'old' disease, and we'd never know it, simply because doctors are not looking for it.
I even saw an ID doc, and since I do not travel, he did not run a single additional test - even though I looked like I'd vacationed in Biafra.
Please - will you all ask your doctors to check you for malaria? - especially if you have symptoms of babesia, respond to treatment, but have yet to produce a positive for babesia. You could be treating malaria inadvertantly.
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Okay, Nimzovich - I guess you'd be comfortable standing alone with me in a mosquito tent then, right?
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how about if you have any symptoms of babs or malaria just treat...the treatment is pretty much the same and the tests are often a waste anyway.
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There have been people with Lyme who have gone to Mexico to actually get injected with Malaria infected blood in order to try to get a fever high enough to kill the bb.
Seems rather drastic to me, but its been done. I know when the air conditioning went out at my work last week, I just kept telling myself "Heat kills bacteria" when I wanted to complain about it sweltering...and asked someone from downstiars to bring up a humidifier to make our own sauna.
In all seriousness, Some have died, some have lived. But Malaria wouldn't be something you'd be posting about if you had it. Trust me, I'm tough. I know you're tough, too. NO ONE is THAT tough. I am rather convinced that you would be in much worse shape if you did indeed have malaria. Thousdands of people die from this daily!
Back when I was on a thyroid board, people used to speculate and throw out all kinds of ideas...some good, some bad. What I learned was, they would discredit the thyroid bloodwork unless it was positive for Hypo...then you should treat to it. If it was normal, the idea was the bloodwork was wrong you should treat to the symptoms! One moment bloodwork was discarded if it didn't prove to be hypo and people would buy drugs from the net. Other times it was rock solid proof if it DID reflect the disease. Cannot have it BOTH ways, you know? I had a TSH that was very high indicating hypo. I was never hypo, it was just Lyme messing with my brain and pituitary. My TSH has been as high as 38 and as low as 3 over the years...but my T4 levels are always normal...Learning that made me realize the bloodwork for all sorts of things can be wrong or incorrect.
What I'm saying is that if you had this parasite, you probably would be too sick to post to the board. I mean, you'd be alternating between bed and praying to the porceline god. Sincerely.
I know what its like to not want to exclude any possibility when it comes to disease. Having dealt with misdiagnosis after misdiagnosis all my life until finally getting tested and being lab corp cdc positive with a very high titer, I have, too, grasped at many straws. So, I feel for you.
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....there are posters on this site who actually tried 'malariotherapy' in the past.
I can't imagine being that desperate...I also don't think it worked from what i've heard. Then what if you can't get rid of the malaria?
Kinda like that old song about 'I know an old lady who swallowed a fly'
me I like bactrim.
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Having had malaria multiple times in my life, as a small child growing up in India, Tailz, I do have to say that in general it is quite distinctive- HOWEVER there are those cases which don't get caught because they aren't and some doctors also call malaria the Great Imitator-
so I would be halfway between you, Tailz- and have to agree with Nimzo as well-
so SOME OF US ought to be tested, those who have seronegative Babs for sure*)!*!!!!!!!!!!!!! or who have hazy bloodwork and some signs that could be malaria-
but the majority of malaria is quite distinctive and not anything like Babs-
the one thing, haveing had both, that is the same, for me anyway, the ONE hting, is the sudden sudden sleepy fatigue- that happened to me both with m and with b!!!!
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Nancy - ha ha If you only knew. I wish I could post a picture of what I looked like just a year ago.
Know those pictures of starving children in Africa??? Yep - that was me alright. And whatever it is it is flaring again this August (mosquito season).
And you can't tell me that since I'm posting, I couldn't possibly have malaria - even somebody drowning attempts to come up for air now and then. It's the will to live.
That's almost like having my doctors tell me there was nothing wrong with me because, if there was, then a, b, c, and d test would prove it.
Shaking chills, sweat pouring from all my pores, emaciation from chronic diarrhea, bones jutting out of my elbows, ribs, and face.
You're forgetting that there are some forms of malaria that lie dormant in the liver, only to erupt years following infection.
And I agree - I have to wonder if one of these infections depends on the other as a means of self-treatment the 'natural' way.
I don't know which I had first though. Maybe I had malaria first and I caught Lyme so that it would slow me down some and get me to stop pushing myself so hard and actually rest.
Charlie - I just think it's important for people to know which bug they have. For one thing, there are a couple of strains of malaria that are resistant to artemisinin and most other antimalarials, requiring a certain combo to eradicate - primaquine and chloroquine BOTH to treat.
CaliforniaLyme - What are the main differences between babs and malaria? I just think that the fact that somebody looked at a slide of my red blood cells and couldn't say it was 'negative' for malaria is pretty scary.
Remember, too, a child's immune system responds differently to disease than an adult's. I know as a kid I was more likely to vomit when I had the flu than I am today.
I think we ALL should be tested. If I have malaria, you could, too.
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With malaria when first sick I had halluncinatory high fevers NON-STOP- every time I had it- literally hallucinating because my fevers were so high- sweat pouring- and an honest-to-goodness death watch once when I was really really bad-
and then recuperation was weeks of worn out rest-
I lived in India as a small kid and got it and then twice when I have been back to India since I have gotten it- when I was 14- when I was 19- when I went back AFTER Babs treatment and was on Lariam prophylactically I had ZERO side effects from Lariam, no herx, and got no malaria (phew!)
always begins with sudden feeling of wooziness and fainting and then coming to with high fever and very sick- high fever for DAYS
DELIRIOUS that's the word- DELIRIOUSLY ill-
Babs never delirious - with HME I was delirious btw- in the beginning- with HME I had 104 fevers for days-
and with Babs I never got fevers only chills althbough I had fever of 101 whole time I had Babs it was Bart or went away with Bart tx anyway- but babs gave me consnta chills for 2 YEARS- thought that would never go away DARNIT! THANK GOODNESS it did!
Babs for me very very different- very Lymelike- though Babs symptoms were residual Lyme DAMAGE but they went away with babs tx!!!
VERY very different in my experience- Take care-
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tailz,
You would be surprised that I know exactly where you are coming from. I have been down to 79lbs, and while I am short, its still emaciation. You are not the only lyme sufferer with similar symptoms. I've gone through bouts of sweating and chills over the years, as many active infections can do. Heck, I have been sick for 34 years. In addition, I have been in a severe car accident, went through a bout of impentago and lice when I was a school photographer, once caught a parasite while taking care of kittens, and did grasp at straws desperately when I was VERY ill a few years ago. Too ill to post to a forum, too ill to get out of bed. I've had more diagnosises than carter has liver pills over the years. I have, in the past, seen a group of symptoms and thought...Oh My Gosh This Is It!!, attributed it to myself...and then found out...nope...wrong again. Finding out I had Lyme after all this time was an accident, because several years ago I gave up looking. And you know what? Having Lyme is indeed enough to cause it all...thats why they call it an immitator.
The last two years I have pushed myself, have held a full time job, FORCED myself to get out of bed, forced myself to exercise (even if it is just walking). In the grand sceme of things, I came to realize one important thing...puking in the sink each morning doesn't qualify for a reason to stay home from work anymore.
I'm not saying that you "can't" have anything else. In fact, I said that I understand not wanting to rule anything out. Not trying to discredit you in any way shape or form. You also have to realize you are not the only person going through these symptoms with Lyme. Look, when I got my Sjogren's Dx (the latest one 4 years ago), I never fully believed it. I was never comfortable with it, and for a little while I did keep looking, like you are now. After a while, I gave up. Too tired to bother anymore, have a child to raise and I have to support her, have a life to "try" to live. Besides, asking for test after test after test from doctors only make me look like a nutcase, a hypochondriac, ruined my credibility, and I hurt my own cause. Learning to be laid back was my best, and most difficult lesson. Finding Lyme was a serendipidous accident. Now, even if I cannot reverse the life-long damamge, I may be able to prevent it from getting worse. Maybe.
Like you, I aged quickly, I do not even resemble old pictures of myself, and I did spend some time mourning that. I also looked like a skeleton on crack for a while. I have severe melasma from the brain involvement,have lost a lot of hair, hyperpigmentation like an addision's patient, and by all accounts I shouldn't be working full time, I should be dead. These things aren't caused by further bugs. They are caused by chronic infection, ill health, free radicals, stress, and pituitary/hypothalomous involvement.
I guess I just have this perspective as I do not have co-infections, I do not have malaria or ebola or anything else...and yet I have had many of the things you are facing.
Its, again, not to discredit you, but to just offer an opinion...
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californialyme - Hmmm? I'm not sure. I DID have a fever at one point and stayed in bed probably 16 or more hours a day - I think my fever was 101 or 102.
Literally - I would even lay down on the dining room floor in hopes that I would open my eyes in an hour.
Nope - I just would wake up on the floor at 4am, with my work clothes still in the washing machine, still feeling as if I hadn't even slept.
Nancy - You sound so much like me! Have you been tested for malaria? I'm serious - don't let them tell you this is all in your head.
And though I know you have things that need to be done at home and as a mom, don't push yourself to destruction.
I did that for many years - pushed myself to hold multiple jobs thinking I was doing what was noble for my daughter, only to basically end up over the edge healthwise, which did neither one of us any good.
If you have discoloration on your nose, your liver is not happy. I had brown splotches everywhere on my face - strange pigmentations.
In fact, they kept checking me for lupus due to the hyperpigmented areas.
I did a liver cleanse, took a zillion baking soda baths, sweat sweat sweat, and removed all processed foods from my diet - no wheat, grains, soy, red meat, fish, milk, eggs. I'm not sure which was causing it, but no more brown splotches. None!
I just worry - you seem to have resolved to avoid making any demands on your doctors to figure out what your next step should be, and that worries me.
I was you for a long time. I was the compliant patient who listened to my doctors and tried not to question their observations or decisions or make any waves whatsoever with them.
Something in me just snapped though last year. I stopped viewing my doctors as people who were doing me a favor, and started viewing them as people I had HIRED to cure me, and up until that point, they had NOT given me my money's worth.
This is when it began to matter ZERO to me whether my docs thought I was insane or psychosomatic or whatever.
Fact is, whether or not I was a complete psychopath, I STILL was very ill physically, and they owed me my health - insanity or no insanity!
It didn't happen overnight, and I'd like to say I was plagued with guilt when I finally did make some demands on my doctors - but I wasn't.
I could tell too that most of my doctors were completely unaccustomed to having a patient question their expertise and judgment. They actually seemed insulted by my questionings!
I could tell they were taken back by my forwardness, but you have to remember, they are being paid to cure you! They are NOT being paid to hold your hand while you die silently in front of them!
I cursed at my GYN when he told me I was in normal healthy early menopause at 41. I told another doctor who was leaving the exam room to 'get back in here'. I threatened another doctor with a lawsuit if he refused me an Epipen. My GI doctor seemed a little unnerved when I told him that if my colonoscopy came back normal, there was no way they were going to tell me there was nothing more they could do.
Was I combative? YES! Being a good compliant patient had only made me sicker!
Please get tested for malaria. Also, have you tried wormwood complex, black walnut, and cloves? This was one of the first combos I tried, and yes, I passed rice-like thingers. Tapeworm? I'm not sure. But I am no longer aging by the minute like I was last year.
But please, don't let them suck the life right out of you like they did to me. They are doctors - look straight across at them - but don't ever look up.
If I learned anything over the last several years, it's been that.
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I just wanted to say that I like you, Tailz, and I respect your guts and your originality.
I am glad you stand up for yourself even if you don't walk the common road- and you do so without disrespecting others which is rare.
Malaria tends toward high fevers high high HIGH fevers, but again, it is not without the realm of possibility in my opinion that you have it. There are, like Jayne posting over in general support, cases of RMSF that go undiagnosed for ages because people don't fit the acute category.
And in the beginning, they thought Ehrlichiosis and Babesiosis were ONLY acute illnesses- (until they tested people*)!
I hope you continue to explore this until you figure it out one way or another.
101-102 fevers would be low for malaria- BUT one thing I have learned in life is you never know... and strange things happen*)*)!!!
Plus, I don't see ANY down side to you exploring this- you will learn more one way or another- and if it pans out as not malaria you will have learned that for sure- which you need to know! But odds are, it's not!!! BUT- you never know...*)!!!!
Take care, Tailz-
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Tailz- if you want malaria -you got it.
But I suggest you will get more satisfaction and validation from a malaria discussion board-this one is for Lyme Disease.
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I just checked with one of the docs that I know that is an expert in malaria and he said that if you had malaria you would not be talking to us on the internet..it is NOT the same as babs..please look elsewhere... eric
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eric - Exactly. It's a MIRACLE that with whatever they saw inside my red blood cells I am able to be posting on forums. Why is that so hard to believe?
You do realize that like Lyme, malaria is cyclic. Coincidentally, my sleep patterns coincide with mosquito activity - I'm awake from dusk to dawn, and my symptoms consistently increase in mid summer through fall.
I would seriously be careful putting my trust in doctors - period. If my malaria does come back positive here, multiply that advice times a million.
cobweb - If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Didn't your mommy teach you that?
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So what is not nice about directing someone to a more appropriate board for what ails them?
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Wouldn't all the babesia tests detect malaria if we had it?
Don't all the babs test look directly at the red blood cells to see if they are infected?
Just a thought.
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quote:Originally posted by tailz: cobweb - If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Didn't your mommy teach you that?
Actually I believe it was Thumper's friend Flower who taught me that. Or was it Flower's friend Thumper?
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the dr that I asked works in africa and other areas..they are the ones responsible for treating malaria..he said that if it was chronic that you would be hospitalized..that he doubts that it is malaria..he is one of the top infectious disease experts in the world..he is not like out docs here in the states..I trust him... eric
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I lived in India as a little kid and have gone back a few times and have had the common delirious, unmistakable presentation/ disease of malaria 3 times!!! BUT I know from my experience that malaria is TRULY a disease with a highly variant persentation and yes, as seen here, can even be asymptomatic!!! Since there ARE still outbreaks in the USA and since Tailz LIVED in the same place as one of those outbreaks during the relevant time frame, I think there is a chance she does have it, truly. How many people treated US like we were crazy for thinking WE have the RARE disease of Lyme or another TBD???? Let's not do the same to someone else!!! She DOES have an equivocal test- well, let's see what happens with her testing next!!
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Malaria is a febrile illness characterized by fever and related symptoms. But in an endemic area, malaria can present with myriad manifestations. Therefore, malaria is a great imitator and trickster.
Malaria is typically described as an illness characterized by shaking chills, followed by high grade fever and sweating (Cold stage, Hot stage and Sweating stage). The febrile episode starts with shaking chills, usually at midday between 11 a.m. to 12 noon, and this lasts from 15 minutes to 1 hour (The cold stage), followed by high grade fever, even reaching above 106 F, which lasts 2 to 6 hours (The hot stage). This is followed by profuse sweating and the fever gradually subsides over 2-4 hours. These typical features are seen after the infection gets established for about a week.
Atypical Features: These are more likely in the following situations- P. falciparum malaria, extremes of age, pregnancy, immunocompromised (like HIV disease, tuberculosis, malignancy, diabetes, major organ disease etc.), immuno suppressed (patients on steroids, immunosuppressants for organ transplant/connective tissue disease etc.); patients who are immune to malaria after many attacks, people on chemoprophylaxis, patients with complications of P. falciparum malaria etc.
The following atypical features can be observed:
1. Atypical fever: Patient may present with low grade fever, or continuous fever or quotidian fever with many spikes a day or as a classical P.U.O., Patients at extremes of age, with immuno compromise, on immunosuppressants, on prophylaxis or immune after many attacks and patients in shock may not have fever at all.
2. Head ache and body ache mimicking meningitis or encephalitis or ICSOL.
3. Weakness, prostration, easy fatiguability: This is particularly common in patients who present with algid malaria.
4. Vomiting and diarrhoea: These are very common and could be due to the disease or its treatment. P. falciparum can present as Choleraic form.
5. Cough: A dry hacking cough can be the presenting feature of early P. falciparum malaria.
6. Breathlessness: Severe anemia associated with P. falciparum malaria or chronic P. vivax malaria can present as exertional dyspnea. It can also be due to non-cardiogenic pulmonary oedema in severe P. falciparum malaria.
7. Chest pain: Rapid enlargement of spleen and peri-splenitis can cause pain over left lower chest or abdomen and it may even radiate to left shoulder tip. Coupled with hypotension, sweating, breathlessness etc., it can easily mimic acute myocardial infarction. Chest pain and fever can also be mistaken for pleurisy, pneumonia, etc
8. Acute abdomen: Patients can present with acute pain abdomen, mimicking perforation of D.U./ ureteric colic, etc.
9. Altered behaviour, altered sensorium, convulsions, coma: These can be due to the severe infection or the drugs or both. Hypoglycemia, either due to disease or drugs like quinine, is an important cause for these symptoms. Therefore administration of 25% dextrose may be advisable in all such cases. Chloroquine can also cause acute psychosis in some.
10. Ataxia: Patients with P. falciparum malaria can present with cerebellar symptoms and signs. 11. Combinations: Patients can present with various combinations of the above mentioned symptoms, further confusing the picture.
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J Health Psychol. 2007 May;12(3):461-74. Links
The prevalence of chronic fatigue syndrome in Nigeria.
Njoku MG, Jason LA, Torres-Harding SR. DePaul University, Chicago, IL 60614, USA. [email protected]
The present study found adult rates of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in Nigeria that were somewhat higher than rates from community-based CFS epidemiologic studies in the USA. The rates of chronic fatigue for both adults and children were also higher than in existing community-based studies.
It is possible that the presence of several fatiguing illnesses such as malaria and typhoid, the lack of adequate healthcare resources and poverty in Nigeria, place individuals at greater risk for fatigue and its syndromes.
There is a need for more epidemiologic studies on the prevalence and sociodemographic characteristics of CFS in developing countries.
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Malaria in the United States
About 1,200 cases of malaria are diagnosed in the United States each year. Most of these are "imported" by military personnel and travelers to, or immigrants from, countries where malaria is common. Malaria has occasionally been spread locally in the United States by infected mosquitoes stowed away on international airplanes, or, on rare occasions, by mosquitoes here that have bitten someone who was infected ("local transmission").
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In the United States, malaria flourished for centuries in the South and in port cities like Boston and New York. During the Civil War, armies on both sides stationed in the South sustained more than 1.2 million cases of malaria. The southern United States continued to be afflicted with millions of cases of malaria each year into the mid-1930s. The Public Health Service began an anti-malaria campaign in 1942, and by 1953, Plasmodium was considered to be tamed in the United States. Some authorities today, however, believe this public health campaign had less to do with malaria's retreat than did the country's increasing prosperity, which pushed millions of Americans out of the swampy hinterlands and into cities.
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Thanks Sarah and Tailz for the posts.
Here in Europe, it's said that it's a matter of time for malaria to become a real problem, specially with global warming issues.
I guess the general picture is lyme & tick co-infections going from north to south and malaria from south to north...
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visionoftruth - I'm going to order a test kit, even though my doctor ordered a third malaria through Quest - I don't trust Quest. How could a malaria be equivocal anyway when they were looking at a smear of my blood on a slide? I wonder if the medical community will accept the results of this mail-order test?
My second malaria test came back negative, by the way - the reason for the third test. My doc said they saw something inside my red blood cells that first time. Plus, I had started Larium and quinine after the first equivocal one was drawn, so it could have affected the results of this second malaria test, causing a false negative.
Plus, last year around this time I was leaving very painful messages on the voicemail of one of the doctors who dropped the ball on me. I was delirious from the dehydration and pain. My lungs, my heart - everything was complaining, but nobody would listen. You can DIE of malaria, too, and I told docs I thought I was dying of something. They laughed it off, too, calling me psychosomatic.
Sarah though is right. Malaria has different presentations - I wish I had been tested last summer when I had shaking chills and profuse sweating attacks - my clothing would literally be saturated in sweat and my temp would be low by the time I got to my doctor's. They were blaming it on menopause, and they were wrong about that, too. Why should I trust them ever again? I really think I would have DIED had I not figured out my food allergies, my Lyme, and that the iron in foods was causes an increase in symptoms.
By the way, the most common food allergens - wheat, soy, egg, fish, red meat, yeast - are ALL high in iron.
I read your list of symptoms though - I had every one except vomiting for much of my illness - basically until I eliminated iron from my diet. Quinine helps somewhat, too.
In fact, one of my complaints last summer was that I took an iron pill and my chronic diarrhea increased in severity. I thought at the time that I was allergic to the red dye in it, but in retrospect, it could have been the iron itself. The doc thought this was strange because iron generally constipates - with me it did the opposite.
There are asexual and dormant forms of malaria too that can reside in tissue and blood, which could potentially be what is infecting me right now. And there was a man in Philly who was dxd with malaria.
How would the medical community even know if there was an outbreak? They rarely test for malaria - in fact, I was the one who requested this one. I should probably be tested for typhoid, too.
savebabe - They drew 3 sets of blood cultures on me for tularemia (negative). I was wondering if perhaps my blood cultures grew staph, would they report it even if it didn't grow any tularemia?
Honestly, I don't think they would unless it was ordered as a blood culture, as opposed to a tularemia.
I think this is the same for malaria and babs. If he orders both, they look for both - but if he only orders one, they let the doctor figure out that he needs to order some other test. It's messed up, but insurance won't pay for two-for-ones.
But I'm serious here - any one of us could potentially be harboring malaria, and since the medical community is not looking for it, we all could be flying under the radar here.
Selma is right, too - I'll bet global warming is going to trigger an outbreak of a bunch of bugs we thought we had eradicated, including malaria.
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Tailz, all I know for sure is what has happened with me. I've been using a rife machine for about 4 yrs. A couple years ago I started seeing a muscle testing doc and he actually tested me for needed protocols with my rife. Malaria came up many times. He always told me that it's possible it's not "malaria", but a malaria like sickness that will respond to the freqs for malaria.
Malaria freqs was one protocol that made me feel better after treatments. I had done babesia rife treatments and they hadn't help. But malaria made improvements.
Tailz, I do believe that the medical world has no clue to the seriousness of vector borne illnesses.
Pam
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Pam - I would not doubt you have malaria, too. I have been screaming to my doctors that I did not get this from a tick - that I got this from fleas and mosquitos.
The doctor who is treating me now says there are 3 things that can cause health problems - 1) You can break something (mechanical). 2) You can be poisoned. 3) Infection, which includes parasites.
Nobody even considers malaria nowadays. I just remember sweating so much last year that I literally would feel like I was freezing to death afterwards and would tremble, almost convulsively at times.
What Rife frequencies do you use for malaria??? I've been afraid to use the lower frequencies especially due to sensitivities to EMFs, but maybe I should?
I don't believe for one minute that malaria is a disease of the past. It's not even logical.
If even one person is positive for malaria in an area and that person gets bitten even one time, several more people become infected. If each of those walk around for even a month, unknowningly infected, several more people become infected.
I know if I have malaria, I have had it since at least 2000 - which means all the mosquitos that bit me for the last 7.5 years (probably longer since I didn't apply for disability until I was half-dead) now have infected others - and I have 4 mosquito bites on me right now.
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