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JJ29
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Hi All,
I have been off of abx since 2001. I am currently having digestive issues due to candida/IBS.
I am trying to follow a diet that will help treat candida as well as IBS. However, what I have read about the IBS diet is that you should have soluble fiber foods (i.e. pasta, rice, potatoes) before eating insoluble foods like vegetables etc.

If this is correct, then what can I eat that is insoluble fiber that would be okay for candida. I was eating brown rice and brown rice pasta until I read that it's not good for candida.

Do you all agree that brown rice is not okay on the candida diet?
Also is Kefir and yogurt okay to use if you are lactose intolerant?

Thank you all for your help!

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lpkayak
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i eat brown rice, barley, and a very dense multi grain bread-no white flour-no yeast.

i had ibs a long time before i was on 3 yrs high dose oral abx.

i don't find the diets conflict at all. but i do need the whole grain carbs i eat. doc agrees.

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Aniek
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If you have a candida overgrowth, then your IBS symptoms are likely from candida. In that case, you want to get rid of the candida first.

It is recommended to stay away from all simple carbs on yeast diets (sugars, white grains, fruits) and most people suggest staying away from even the more complex carbs (brown rice, whole grains).

But you need to do what you can handle. If you can't eat without having some complex carbs, then I think you probably need to have them. You need to get nutrition. But make sure they are completely unprocessed.

The longer the grain takes to cook, the better. Long grain wild rice is the best rice. Quinoa is a good choice of a grain because it has lots of protein in it. McCann's Irish Oatmeal, the one you cook on the stove and not the instant or microwavable, is better than instant oatmeal. Potatoes have a lot of sugars, so I would try to stay away.

I also recommend trying Cumanda, from Nutramedix. It is part of the Cowden protocol against Lyme, but it has antifungal properties. I use it while on abx to fight yeast, because it is gentler on the liver than antifungals.

I just restarted abx. I didn't start the Cumanda until 2 weeks in when I saw some white on my tongue. By day 2, no white. And I wasn't near the full dose.

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Thank you both for your responses.

Aniek, I am interested in Cumanda by Nutramedix. Where is the best place to buy it? Also, where can I find more info on the Cowden protocol?

Thanks for your help!

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You can buy it from their website. https://www.nutramedix.com Only other place I've seen it is my doctor's office.

This is a link to the Cowden protocol. I wouldn't recommend trying it without the supervision of a doctor. That's my advice for any medical treatment. http://www.bionatus.com/nutramedix/pdfs/L-Protocol-cowden.pdf

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quote:
Originally posted by Aniek:
If you have a candida overgrowth, then your IBS symptoms are likely from candida. In that case, you want to get rid of the candida first.

I agree!!

DIET, DIET, DIET is the key. Then, be sure to follow the 5 step plan outlined below. It was developed by my naturopath. It works.

Candida diet and elimination:
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html
http://www.wholeapproach.com/diet/
Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021202.html

"Successful control and elminiation of a Candida Albicans overgrowth requires a multifaceted program as described below. Failure to follow ALL the steps simultaneously will result in slow progress and will lengthen healing time significantly. The program should be tailored to the individual and must balance the need to eliminate the Candida and deprive it of its food source while insuring proper nutrition for the individual."

Five Steps to Candida Elimination:

1. You must starve it into submission by eliminating its food source.


2. You must kill it with anti-fungal herbs and supplements. [e.g....garlic, onion, caprylic acid, Pau D'Arco capsules or tea, clove, grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, tea tree oil, Echinacea, Goldenseal, black walnut, MSM, barberry root, uva ursi, neem leaf, biotin]

3. You must reestablish the proper balance and quantity of probiotic bacteria in the digestive tract. [...multi-strain lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidus capsules with FOS should be taken between meals to maximize repopulation of the digestive tract by beneficial bacteria.]

4. You must reestablish proper levels of all B vitamins (yeast free) and utilize other immune enhancing supplements to boost immune system function. [e.g ... B complex vitamins (yeast free), biotin, beta 1-3 glucan, colostrum, maitake mushroom, vitamins A, C, E, zinc and selenium]

5. You must cleanse and heal the digestive tract to promote proper elimination of toxins and Candida and assimilation of nutrients. [e.g...chlorophyll, MSM, omega 3 fatty acids found in flax seed and salmon oils, GLA found in borage, evening primrose and black currant oils. Pantothenic acid, digestive enzymes between meals]

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