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jans_1girl
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Hi everyone! I hope I don't ramble on too much but would appreciate
your help!

I'm a 27 year old female and new to this site but reading through
other posts I certainly can relate to your stories and symptoms!

I live near Bushy Park in South West London, where deer run wild and
its a beautiful place to go for a stroll. I went for several walks
there early this year (when the weather was unusually warm for
February / March). I remember getting a very strange rash on my upper
leg, started small and gradually got quite big - the
description "bulls-eye" describes it perfectly. Very unsightly and I
was glad when it slowly disappeared after about 3-4 weeks. Didn't see
a doctor at the time, just thought I was having a reaction to an
insect bite. Shortly after the rash went I started getting severe
left shoulder pain, going into my neck and upper back and pains
coming down my arm into my elbow, wrist and fingers (all on the left
side), so bad that I needed to use my right hard to support my left
arm with lifting etc. This carried on for about a month (I have
suffered with joint pain in my knees from early teens and just dealt
with it - general creaking of joints etc - initially thought this
shoulder problem was to do with my ongoing knee pain - early
arthritis?) and I went to see my doctor when the shoulder pain spread
to sharp pains in my whole back. Anti-inflammatories didn't help and
shoulder X-ray came back clear - then had chest x-ray as was
experiencing pain in ribs and breathing problems - this came back
clear. Doctor said I had a musco-skeletal problem in shoulder, that
bad posture was causing back pain and that I needed physio. Pain
started spreading across whole body, very achy in joints, bones and
muscles, from neck right down to feet and toes. Started feeling
nauseous 3 weeks ago and this is constant - every day I get waves of
nausea.

Consultant at hospital diagnosed Shoulder Impingement Syndrome and I
started physio a few weeks ago. Couldn't believe that all my symptoms
were caused by shoulder so started reading up on it, I was thinking
along the lines of Fibromyalgia at this point as I tested negative
for Rheumatoid Arthritis. Went and saw a different GP who took my
symptoms more seriously and said I need to see a Rheumatologist for
my joint and bone pain. I am booked in for that on 5th November.

However, last night I was looking on internet again and found
articles on Lyme Disease. Never heard of it before, I read with
interest and then I remembered the rash from earlier this year! It
rang alarm bells straight away, and I printed out a picture which was
exactly like the rash I had and went to my GP this morning. I must
say he is very understanding and very open to the fact that it could
be Lymes, given the circumstances in my case. He has prescribed only
1 week of Doxycycline and took blood which he says will take about 2
weeks to analyse as there are different tests that need to be done.

Any advice you could give me in the meantime would be really helpful.
Thank you!

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DesperationIn
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Hi Jans- I am glad you are now on the right track! The bullseye rash and insect bite are very strong indicators for lyme. I got sick around the time when you did too and only recently got diagnosed with it after doing my own research. I am 23 years old, so this has been rough and I understand how difficult this is. I am taking time off from law school to recover and hope that the situation will improve. But everyone says that after proper treatment starts, your symptoms do improve.

Right now, you really need to take charge and do your own research because doctors are very unknowledsgeable about lyme in many parts of the US. I am not sure if the situation in London is better. I have had every blood test ran, including tests for lyme and the ONLY test that was uselful and showed something was the western blot from Igenex laboratory.

You need to get a western blot for lyme at a good laboratory that will report whether you are positive or negative for each band they test. Igenex tests and many different bands related to lyme (12 I think) and reports the results for each band, while other labs don't report the bands they have tested at all and only test 3 or 5 bands. \

The ELISA tests for lyme that most doctors run first are not very accurate and they were negative in my case. So if the doctor tells you your lyme test came back negative, be sure you know exactly what test he ran and get someone to run a western blot at a good lyme lab. Also, be sure to get a copy of your western blot results and post them here or ask a lyme doctor to interpret them because interpretation of this test is also KEY, even if it says NEGATIVE.

Also, one week of the antibiotic is not going to be anywhere near enough. The standard dose regular docs prescribe here is 200mg of doxycycline for 3 or 4 weeks. However, my lyme specialist doctor (we call them LLMD) prescribed 400mg (200mg twice a day) for 3 months and other antibiotics will be prescribed after that. The 400mg is a proper dose of doxy for lyme unless you are really small but I am about 115 lbs. See a doctor who will prescribe a higher dose for a longer period of time than one week.

I recommend you do whatever you can to research lyme and locate a doctor who specializes in lyme or sees many lyme patients. He will guide you to the right lyme tests. He will also run tests for coinfections that go along with lyme that may possibly contribute to your severe joint symptoms.

I realize the system in your contry may be a bit different and you may not have your choice of docs and have to wait. But it's worth paying out of pocket if you can to get this diagnosed and treated as soon as possible. Finding a doctor knowledgeable about this is so important!

In the mean time, I found the book Healing Lyme by Buhner to be a wonderful book and starting point for research. In the book, he also suggests herbs and natural methods that help with lyme that you can do with antibiotics. Other people in this forum are very knowledgeable about wholistic methods and are very eager to share information.

I also found the website Betterhealthguy.com of Scott Forsgren (who also posts here) to be extremely useful. His website has a ton of wonderful info and helped me get properly diagnosed. It goes into more details about specific tests. I believe there is also a European lymenet that may help you connect with others near you and to find doctors who treat it.

I hope you do well. I am glad you are looking into this. The sooner you get diagnosed properly the sooner you can start getting better. Hang in there!

-Despin.

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CaliforniaLyme
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WELCOME*)!*)!
!*)*)!*!*)!)*!


Yup, there's a group called EuroLyme*)! Heard it is a great group!!!

One week would do nothing if you have Lyme!!

I would try to find an LLMD- a Lyme literate MD- in England.

WELCOME*)!*)!

p.s. My favorite TV show is EastEnders*)!!!!!!!

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Welcome [hi]

I would take californialyme's advice and try to find a llmd if you can.

Just in case you didnt know you can test negative for lyme and still have it.

Best wishes

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Jan,
Hi, I might add a couple things in that you are new.

This disease is called lyme(no s) because it was first discovered in LYME CONECTICUT U.S.A.

By a Willie Burgdorfer...thus the main Spirochetal bacterial agent Borrelia Burgdorferi Spirochete...

How Steere was ever attributed ANYTHING to do with this disease is beyond me.

Also, a lot of blood will be drawn to RULE OUT many different things this affliction can be.

When you post here please try and remember there are others who are aflicted with

neurolymeborreliosis(the lyme got into their brains and affects abilities to read the written word and sometimes even comprehend.

When you finally get a test result back from a lab kindly look somewhere on the result itself where it will out and out say that the test is

"for experimental purposes only. That a negative test does not mean the patient does not still have lyme disease".

"A CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS MUST BE MADE BY YOUR CLINICIAN".......

The amount of doxy should be increased in your case....how much is up to different protocol....

Get yourself a good copy of Dr Burrascano's protocol and also the protocol used by ILADS association.


These will be head and shoulders above anything you may find in a library with concerns to

homeopathy, or any other such alternative medical advice....IMHO.

Also stay entirely as far away from the IDSA as you possibly can.

That is if you're serious about not getting a very SERIOUS disease.


You and the second poster have a better than average chance to rid yourselves of this

terrible buisiness because of the more recent infestation.

I should also add that if I had gotten IV antibiotics and not steroids initially due to a misdiagnosis.

I would not have had to fight this disease as long as I have been fighting. TEN years some of which were very very bad.

Good luck and God be with you.

FXD

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Aniek
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Welcome to the board. You are doing things right in doing your own research. It's so important to take your health in your own hands.

You have received some great advice on moving forward. In the meantime, I want to make a recommendation to help with your pain.

I have the same type of pain you have. I've had intense shoulder and arm pain since I was 27, and now I'm 32. I recently started Zanaflex, it's a muscle relaxer and antispasmodic. It works incredibly well and I've been able to go from taking Vicodin 2-3 times a day, to only once a week.

I take 4mg at bed, and 2mg every 5 hours during the day. I started with 2mg at bed, increased to 4, then started adding in the day dose, one at a time. That way you get used to the fatigue it can cause. Taking it with food keeps me from getting tired from the daytime doses.

This isn't a replacement for treating Lyme. But I'm a huge believer in treating the pain while you are treating Lyme. There is no reason to live in pain.

-Aniek

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Hi -- you're getting good advice from people here. Wanted to add that I go through nausea when my C2 vertebra is out, and a good chiropractor puts it back in place and stops the mausea temporarily.
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