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a microsope? it doesnt make sense why the tests are so inacurate..please tell me y they just cant invent or make a microspe that scientis or whoever COULD see the spiros then confirm it was lyme so we wouldnt have to go thru so much *&^% and get better right awy or is this some kind of conspiracy??
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I would think it could show up, but perhaps finding the keets *IN* the blood is the tough part! They prefer to hang out in the tissues, where they can move more easily with their nasty, spiral-shaped bodies!
Yes, there's a conspiracy!
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so thats the reason when i went to this hmeo dr in spring vcalley yesterday my blood was nearly perfect!!! but i think this doc is a quack coz he tired to sell me stuff..like thing sfor my feet..magnets .and a thyroid vitamin when h e dint even take a test...
they took a prick of blood from my finger and put it under microscope.
.then i looked at it with the dr..he said there were some parasites but everyone has parasites he sais and then he said thathe cant get rid of them but im not ready!! wtf???
im in so much freakin pain and hes telling me im not ready well he soaked me for 200..what do u think fake or real>>???.
so just out of curiosity how do we ge those suckers that are in our tissues then?? i cant go on abx i have colitis..i tested pos for lyme a few yrs ago thru igenix..
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i have to make a correction .doc said he can get rid of the parasites but that i was not ready what kind of crap is that..??
he said i need to be detoxed ..do cleansiing etc...
he told me everything i already no like not to eat sugar, take 5 htp and this thyroid med..but it was a vitamin.
.i thought homeo guys give out rememdys and he said that what that is,
,..no its not its a vitamin and herbs..
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Two questions two links, the first one is mainly to see the pictures not to promote the protocol, if these are for real, it looks fairly easy to me to see: http://www.lymephotos.com/
The bacteria is one of the "smartest" there is, it can camouflage in our good cells and float through our bodies unnoticed by the immune system, it can hide from antibiotics forming cysts, travels better in tissue than blood due to its shape. Two things kill it besides antibiotics, oxygen and heat.
From what I've read, the width of the spirochete is too small for viewing under a regular microscope. A Dark-field microscope must be used.
Your doctor sounds like he's more of a holistic type doctor? Is he an MD or a DO? Were you looking for a more conventional doctor? It would be great if your doctor encompasses both conventional and holistic medicine during your treatment as I feel both are beneficial. But I'm not sure you can get well on just holistic treatment, though there are a few people on here who swear by it.
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jburke, you haven't really told enough about this doc or your appointment to judge.
Some hoemeopaths do incorporate herbs and supplements into their patient's 'protocol', to work alongside the homeopathic remedies.
Did he give you any homeopathic remedies at all? Is he just a homeopath, or a homepathic MD, or a Naturopath or what?
Did you do a little checking with his office before you went to see him, to get an idea of his treatment protocols, etc.? Sometimes, they will even refer you to a satisified patient for more info. Boy, it sure pays to do your homework regarding practitioners when you have Lyme or any chronic illness.
You should be happy with your practitioner, that's for sure, and if you aren't, then a change is in order. It's really hard to comment on that, though, without a lot more information and understanding why he is doing what he is doing.
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Why don't they just take a tissue biopsy then or use the darkfield scope? I almost posted a thread like this a while back.
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I know some have said that there aren't usually a large number of spirochetes and that may make it difficult to narrow down what tissue to actually biopsy.
I think doing a biopsy on EMs are pretty successful but a definitive diagnosis of Lyme can be made just with an EM alone.
Is it too invasive when it gets beyond tissues like blood, synovial fluid, CSF or skin? I would imagine those types of tissue samples would cover most Lyme patients.
Maybe it's cost?
Hopefully, someone in the know will come along and answer this for us.
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the doc i went to said he was homeopathic .
..b4 i went he said he would give me a remedy but i thought a rememdy wasnt vitamin s an herbs .
i think he is a quack coz he said i have parasites but everyone does dont they? he said my blood looked great escept for a few parasites.
i eqt alot of sugar and thatshowed up as yeast on there..but all in all my blood was almost
perfect thats what the nurse had said coz she showe me pics of how not normalblood looks and mine matched the normal one..and then he tried to sell me magnets..
i dont like that crap..he gave me accup which helped a little but today im so sik gain..i guess i need to be on anbx ..i would like to try the oxygen where do i go for that?
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This is just my opinion that using strictly homeopathic means for treatment is less likely to lead to a great degree of improvement. I really think those who are really sick need to involve a doctor that is more conventional and includes antibiotics as part of the treatment.
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