Marnie
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ABSTRACT: Four white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus) were experimentally inoculated with Borrelia burgdorferi to determine serologic response by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) and immunoblotting.
Deer had antibodies by ELISA by 2 to 3 wk post-inoculation (P1) and remained positive for 10 wk .
Deer demonstrated immunoblotting reactivity between 10 and 14 days P1 and consistently showed antibody response to nine B. burgdorferi antigens .
Attempts were made to recover the spirochete from blood and tissues; B. burgdorferi was isolated from an ear punch biopsy from one of the inoculated deer."
And the old CDC standard for lyme diagnosis in humans required the Western Blot "positive" to FIVE bands...the deer reacts to NINE!
Why?
Does mineral availability effect the deer's ability to make more antibodies?
Although spring nutrition is important for body and antler growth, deer possess adaptations that allow them to prosper in areas with mineral deficiencies.
For example, deer deposit minerals in their skeletons throughout the year. Then, during antler growth, they mobilize these minerals to help the antlers grow strong.
A second adaptation is the deer's ability to change absorption rates of minerals in their stomach.
When using large amounts of minerals for antler growth, deer siphon more minerals from their diet. Deer rely on plants for these minerals, and they select plants offering the highest mineral concentrations.
What minerals? Phosphorus? Magnesium? Or...?
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Marnie
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Lymetoo...I think it maybe phosphorus.
As in cAMP...cyclic adenosine monoPHOSPHATE (hence Forskolin)
OR
ATP = adenosine TRI PHOSPHATE (hence Siberian - from Russia - Rhodiola Rosea)
I think it is gonna take a TRI-valent substance to knock out Bb.
Increased ATP to drive Mg back in the cells.
OR
O3 (ozone saunas)
D3 (delta 3) More vitamin D3 to counter Bb's PKC delta inhibitor
OR
Cr3 (chromium 3) as in GlucoReg by Solaray to control blood glucose levels..takes about 3 months to kick in.
The botulism anti-toxin is trivalent too. ;-)
For certain...we need more ATP that we normally make if the cells are to function using glucose AND oxygen.
AND we need anti-oxidant protection. I think glycine might be the ideal antioxidant to use along with increased ATP because of its impact on glutamate. Glycine is a helix breaker and impacts glutamate (helical conformation) - which Bb absolutely needs.
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One thing I am not sure about: do deer get sick? Or they just live with the disease and they are asymptomatic?
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Marnie
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A long time ago, I read something on the internet that was written by a forest ranger who, besides watching for fires, watched the animals.
When they are sick, he said deer go to brown (tannins) streams to drink.
The original "Universal Remedy" which used to be in the Merck Manual was:
Mg oxide, tannic acid and activated charcoal.
This was removed from the manual because of "lack of space".
Tannins/tannic acid is powerful. Very.
They are in the dark, "healthy" fruits like blueberries....
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