Topic: Blog: The crock of "chronic Lyme disease" -- do not read if feeling a bit fragile
dontlikeliver
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..........and apparently he loves the quotation marks....calls chronic Lyme patients "rich people with nothing better to do than obsess over their pathetic lives". Nice guy!! (not) Posting it in case anyone has surplus energy to gently enlighten this man
Saturday, October 13, 2007 THE CROCK OF CHRONIC LYME DISEASE My apologies for not writing in so long. There are many things I read that I want to blog about, but then I watch television.
I want to get right back on the train with a round of applause for one of the best articles I have ever read in the New England Journal of Medicine. Their critical appraisal of ``Chronic Lyme Disease'' (and I LOVE the quote marks) was short and sweet, and there are so many takeaway messages.
The first, of course, is that there is NO good evidence of any such entity in the medical lexicon. What I mean to say is, it is NOT A RECOGNIZED INFECTIOUS DISEASE! Here's a quote from the Infectious Disease Society of America website:
an extensive review of scientifically rigorous studies and papers available to date, has determined that there is no convincing biologic evidence to support a diagnosis of chronic Lyme disease after completion of the recommended treatment
But don't tell the chowderheads at so-called ``support groups'' like this one. They are all over the country (even in places where Lyme is NOT endemic), composed of rich people, and have NOTHING BETTER TO DO but use the internet to obsess over their pathetic lives.
Apparently, for the believers, you do not even need to have a positive antibody test against Borrelia burgdorferi to make the diagnosis., because it might not be valid unless done by a ``specialty laboratory'', which is, of course, a scam, since they are performing tests that are not even validated or supported by the FDA, and are using criteria that are based only on their own fantasy values.
This is the second takeaway message: that there's a sucker born every minute. In this case, the sucker is the poor sap (or self-important ``expert'' patient) who seeks out the ``Chronic Lyme specialist'' (laugh heartily, men-of-science) for weeks, months, even YEARS of chronic antibiotic therapy which is proven to do NOTHING except cause complications of side effects and catheter infections (one resulting in DEATH, according to the article).
The article goes on to discount every theory that the ``Chronic Lyme'' fraudsters purport. But the most disturbing part of the article comes near the end. Here's a quote:
The attorney general of Connecticut has begun an unprecedented antitrust investigation of the Infectious Diseases Society of America, which issued treatment guidelines for Lyme disease that do not support open-ended antibiotic treatment regimens
An attorney general is actually pursuing legal action against an academic society because they disagree with his unscientific view of a bogus clinical entity that is disproved by science. Saying I am shocked and nauseated does not begin to describe my true feelings. How is this possible in 2007? Why are lawyers pretending to be scientists??? Does this guy own a bunch of these ``specialty'' clinics or something?
That's the final takeaway message: science is now being dictated to by people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, and aren't interested in real research.
Thank you Henry M. Feder, Jr., MD er al, and the Ad Hoc International Lyme Disease Group for the article of the year!!
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Someone with more time and energy than I have please direct this guy to the Neurology article by Dr Fallon which was of course funded by the NIH. It proves both the existance of chronic Lyme (patients were previously treated but still tested positive for Lyme) and also the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics.
Getting really tired of reading this drivel, but if you have ever been in a hospital or ER you run into this attitude from most docs. Fortunately most nurses know better.
Bea Seibert
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Maybe what we need is a blog called the angry patient?
I am sure most everyone here could contribute numerous instances of docs who don't listen and don't have a clue.
Bea Seibert
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CaliforniaLyme
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Gosh I WISH I was rich!!! We're so NOT rich it is scary sometiems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-------------------- There is no wealth but life. -John Ruskin
All truth goes through 3 stages: first it is ridiculed: then it is violently opposed: finally it is accepted as self evident. - Schopenhauer Posts: 5639 | From Aptos CA USA | Registered: Apr 2005
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Why bother responding to this blog. Its exactly what he wants you do do. He feeds off of it.
Dont waste your energy and feed him.
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AliG
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Just another IDufus. Two blog posts back he's wondering why he can't find patients. Sad sorry soul. Maybe if he actually treated a few, more would follow.
Hey, how about posting Fallon's study?
I have to go feed the family now, back later.
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WEll, I'm sorry to say that that fool pushed the wrong buttons. I couldn't hold back, I had to post. People like that....
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lymednva
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How about posting Dr. J's response to the NEJM piece?
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Ann-OH
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Any doctor who has time to blog can't have many patients. Note that he likes "quackwatch". Sounds like another McSweegan type.
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Yep, he's an angry doctor. God, protect his patients from him.
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charlie
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Is there any proof this creep is actually a doctor??
I guarantee you I could get on a blog and convince 90% of the people on this site that I was a practicing physician.
The other 10% would recognize my writing style.
I think I'd just ignore him and not feed the trolls even if they're exotrolls.
Charlie
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dontlikeliver
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If he was posing as a doctor, even "anonymously" on the internet, that is illegal.
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he also has time to watch TV. i told him to read some studies instead of watchign tv.
i read his other blogs, and he seems rebellious in other topic areas. he seems young too, only practicing about 5 years.
maybe we can win him over to our side? maybe he just hasn't read the studies himself? lets just bombard him with facts!
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Geneal
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I had to post a response.
I pray this idiot is not really a MD and treating patients.
Nothing like patting yourself on your back for being ignorant.
Hugs,
Geneal
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Can someone haul him through the bushes of Old Lyme please? You are closer to the place than I am ...
[ 14. October 2007, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Gabrielle ]
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disturbedme
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Augh. Idiot he is. I'm not rich whatsoever. I wish I was!
I want to tell him what I think.
-------------------- One can never consent to creep when one feels an impulse to soar. ~ Helen Keller
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disturbedme
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I wrote a reply.
-------------------- One can never consent to creep when one feels an impulse to soar. ~ Helen Keller
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dontlikeliver
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wow the comments have really taken off...good AND bad ones...I just checked the blog
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MagicAcorn
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I made a couple responses to his blog.
I was insulted by the whole thing, but dumbfounded that he believes the AG just woke up one day with no evidence whatsoever and decided to take on the most controversial of medical topics just because...
Is he really that narrow minded?
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I couldn't hold back, I had to post. People like that.... 
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