to check out the M & M's candy with personalized messages.
Think we should order some Lyme green ones to send to our favorite or not so favorite people.
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Scott, maybe you should edit your post title as it isn't really clear to most people (well, not me, anyway) what this even means.
I thought you did conventional treatment for your babesia, didn't you?
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Little known fact--green M and M's help people with Lyme..no impact on the illness, but they take your mind off the problems when you munch them. The red ones don't work.
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I just replied to the LymeNet `miracle mineral' thread from a few days ago...
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Truthfinder has provided the information that was not clear. MMS was discussed in great deal in previous posts here. It is known as Miracle Mineral Supplement and was immediately shot down here on Lymenet. Scientific information is coming about it and hopefully will be read with an open mind.
I am not endorsing MMS. I have not yet used it. But, I am learning about it, reading about it, and may do so in the near future.
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Wow- people with a certain phenotype can devleop hemolytic anemia if they take this!!! So if you have that- G6PD phenotype- don't take it!!!!
re synergistic effect with copper- I had a friend with Wilsons Disease and copper is in more things than you would think- she can't even wear most MAKE-up because you can absorb copper through wearing make-up- - it's a synergistic effect-
Just fyi, I am not saying don't do this, just saying be careful- they monitor it's level in water for public health which is a little scary to ME, I am not saying You, I am saying to ME- and it can be poisonous- of course many things in moderation can in overdose be toxic we know that- but still-
I've been reading up on it- please read these abstracts- there is a certain risk group of pepole who should not do this stuff at all- seriously- IMO- the first is just the attempted suicide by sodium chlorite abstract but after that- just fyi!!!
Basically water treated with chlorine dioxide has sodium chlorites as byproducts and they have found that certain people who have a G6PD phenotype should NOT do this protocol because it could really hurt them- you can develop HEMOLYTIC ANEMIA!!! from this~!! That's all, Just trying to look out for folks, Seriously, Sincerely, Sarah
p.s. Bea, hope your hubby didn't take this stuff! ************************************ 1: Ren Fail. 1993;15(5):645-8.Links
Acute sodium chlorite poisoning associated with renal failure.
Lin JL, Lim PS. Division of Nephrology, Chang Gung Memorial Hospital, Taipei, Taiwan, Republic of China.
A 25-year-old Chinese male presented with generalized cyanosis and respiratory distress.
The patient was known to have ingested 10 g of sodium chlorite in a suicide attempt.
Methemoglobinemia was found and intravenous methylene blue was given repeatedly. However, the therapy could not prevent an acute hemolytic crisis.
Methemoglobinemia remained profound (43.1%) and disseminated intravascular coagulation ensued.
He was put on CAVHD to correct the fluid overload and probably to remove the active metabolites of the chlorite.
After 24 h, the methemoglobin was reduced to 16.9%.
However, the development of acute renal failure further complicated the clinical course.
Percutaneous renal biopsy suggested a picture of acute tubulointerstitial nephropathy.
In addition, hemodialysis was continued for 4 weeks.
After 3 months, renal function normalized.
To our knowledge, there has been no clinical report of human intoxication with sodium chlorite.
PMID: 8290712
1: Ann Ig. 2005 Nov-Dec;17(6):509-18.Links
G6PD phenotype and red blood cell sensitivity to the oxidising action of chlorites in drinking water
Contu A, Bajorek M, Carlini M, Meloni P, Cocco P, Schintu M. Dipartimento di Sanit� Pubblica, Sezione di Igiene, Universit� degli Studi di Cagliari. [email protected]
Chlorine dioxide is widely used to replace sodium hypochlorite in the disinfection of surface waters for human consumption, in order to avoid or reduce the formation of organohalogenated compounds with mutagenic and carcinogenic activity.
However, chlorine dioxide may lead to the formation of by-products, such as chlorites and chlorates, that have an oxidative effect on the blood corpuscled fraction.
In this investigation, blood crasis was assessed in relation to the G6PD phenotype and the consumption of tap water, disinfected with chlorine dioxide, or bottled mineral water from non-disinfected underground sources.
The results show that the effect of oxidative stress resulting from the uptake of chlorites with drinking water is not additive to the effect due to G6PD deficiency. The observed change in haematological parameters, including those related to the G6PD polymorphism, is always within the normal range. However, it is still possible that more relevant changes would follow exposure to chlorites concentrations greater than that observed in the present study.
PMID: 16523710 1: J Environ Pathol Toxicol. 1980 Sep;4(2-3):271-9.Links G6PD-deficiency: a potential high-risk group to copper and chlorite ingestion.Moore GS, Calabrese EJ. Although humans may accept fairly large amounts of orally ingested copper (0.25 to 1.0 gm) without visible harmful effects, patients with Wilson's disease, and persons with G6PD deficiency may represent persons at unusual risk to hemolytic anemia from ingestion of Cu(II). This study reports that in vitro exposure of G6PD deficient red blood cells to copper produced marked elevations of methemoglobin and decreases in GSH when compared with normal red cells. Chlorite, a by-product of chlorine dioxide disinfection of water, produced decreases in GSH and G6PD activity, while increasing methemoglobin levels markedly over red cells with normal G6PD activity. The combined action of chlorite and copper was additive in producing increased levels of hemoglobin and decreases in levels of GSH and G6PD deficient cells. The combined ingestion of copper and chlorite may represent an increased risk to persons with G6PD deficiency.
PMID: 7462905 1: J Environ Pathol Toxicol. 1980 Sep;4(2-3):465-70.Links Groups at potentially high risk from chlorine dioxide treated water.Moore GS, Calabrese EJ, Ho SC.
Chlorite, a by-product of chlorine dioxide disinfection of water, is a strong oxidant compound that produces markedly exaggerated effects in vitro on red cells of G6PD deficient humans when compared to normal human cells.
Levels of methemoglobin are significantly greater and GSH levels significantly lower in the G6PD deficient cells than in normal cells after chlorite exposure.
Persons with G6PD deficiency may be 3 to 4 times more likely to develop hemolytic anemia from chlorite exposure as persons with normal activity levels when GSH levels are used as a measure of susceptibility.
The proposed use of chlorine dioxide as an alternate disinfectant for drinking water supplies should consider this potential high risk group.
PMID: 7462914
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