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painted turtle
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Does anyone know what to do if auluminum is too high in the body?

Why it is too high? Is it partially genetics plus food content?

How to lower it?

And if it is a cause of Alzheimers or what other things it causes?

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Usually aluminium is not the only toxic metal if heavy metal toxicity is present. Not all reveal themselves in all tests at the outset.

http://www.chiroeco.com/article/2006/Issue4/PR3.php

My husband was effectively treated for aluminum toxicity with Desferal, injected several times a week for many weeks. Cilantro tincture or specifically prepared tablets or capsules are also effective for aluminum Raw cilantro is not effective. The process of tincturing or heating the cilantro releases the effective substance.

Hope this helps.


Take care.

P.S. Drinks out of alu cans are a major contributor.


From my experiences.

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Gigi, thank you.

Oddly, I seem to be doing or have done relatively well with the heavy metals. But a recent test does reveal aluminum only as a problem.

Maybe that is part of the memory troubles I have.

My grandfather did have Alzheimers.

I will definitely add cilantro tincture to the mix. I am currently reshaping my program to address specific issues but I feel as long as I am taking the mepron/zith/artiminisin combo for babesiosis, I won't actually be feeling better.

Do you know a good brand of the cilantro tincture?

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aluminnum does NOT cause alzheimers/dementia according to alzheimers assn. where many tests have been done.

IT'S A FALSE RUMOR
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my sister-in-law, died of early AD age 40 !! i learned all i could about it and keep up with it fairly well.

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Please do not use cilantro if you have a serious heavy metal problem, especially if you don't know what other metals you are holding and if you still have metals in your mouth (amalgam fillings, crowns with amalgam underneath).

Cilantro crosses the blood brain barrier and you should discuss this with your doctor. It can carry the metals/aluminum into the brain if the timing is not right. Detoxing any heavy metal takes should be done with the guidance of an expert who understands the dangers. Many a person has ended up with seizures because important issues were overlooked.

In most cases, it is best to start with chlorella to clear some of the extracellular areas of heavy metals before attempting to use an agent that works intracellularly and can clear the brain also. Read some of my posts. Search Law of osmosis under my name - that explains the problem. I have recently posted about that, probably a couple of month ago. Especially when it comes to toxic metals, inform yourself first and hopefully you have a doctor who understands metal toxicity. Sad to say, not many do.

Take care.

Dragon River Herbals and Biopure both carry an organic Cilantro tincture. We have used a lot of both - it works extremely well when applied to the skin. I have also described that in many of my posts. Sorry to make you do all that.

And again, I want to repeat, usually - if people have alu in their system, they also have the heavier metals. Just make sure that you know what you are dealing with. Scott has a good article on his website explaining the testing for the metals. www.betterhealthguy.com (I hope it's still there>?)

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Aluminium sensitivity can cause digestive and absorption problems as well as mental 'clouding' and fluid retention. It's in many foods that you really can't avoid so the best way to keep your burden down is to avoid things which have aluminium added in large quantities such as whitening for flour or anti-caking agents for table salt.

Look at food labels.. E520..E521.. E522.. E523.. E545.. E554.. E555.. E556.. E559.. are all aluminium [Mad]

It's in toothpastes, anti-perspirants, cosmetics, indigestion remedies, and of course the dreaded cola tin.... if you want to avoid it you need to start using natural products but still look at ingredient labels as it can sometimes be found in things you would think will be Al-free. Make sure you are not cooking in Aluminium pans too, non-stick pans are usually aluminium with a coating on so if it's peeling off throw away and get stainless steel or glass.

Malic acid is a good natural chelator, it's available in magnesium malate capsules as the malic acid helps with magnesium absorption.

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If you google alzheimers aluminum, you will find a lot of interesting input. The total body burden of toxins determines whether we can handle it or not. It normally never is just one thing that gets us into trouble - or into a wheelchair.
Aluminum is just one neurotoxin of the many we are exposed to in the world of today.

Most is treatable if you get to it in time and get the help needed to do it right.

My bedtime now.

You all take care.


Sharing my real life experiences.

Drinking-cooking-bathing water!

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I agree with Gigi, aluminium is just one of the possible elements associated with chronic illness, it's found in large quantities in the brains of people who die with alzheimer's but it's not yet known whether it's cause, effect, just a contributer or an innocent bystander.....doesn't look so innocent to me! They do not yet know THE cause of alzheimer's so they can not rule out anything definitely.

If your system can't excrete aluminium efficiently it will accumulate in nerve and brain tissue and you become sensitive to it, it's in vegetables , fruits and grains naturally because it's in the soil but if you are sensitive then there is no point in taking in large amounts in the form of additives, colourings etc.

By the way, tea contains it as aluminium sulphate is used as a fertilizer so if possible get organic tea and don't brew it for too long as there is also natural Al. in the leaves, the amount depends on the soil content.

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Thanks a lot for your words of wisdom.

My metals from D.Data earlier in the year revealed that my dental amalgams were sufficiently taken care of , but still some low mercury levels, but not seemingly too bad. The main ones at that time were cadmium and bismouth. I think the cadmium was from the imaging tests, not sure.

This recent test, from a different lab only revealed aluminum as a problem and that toxic exposure is lower in the trouble list of my malady.

Gigi, I have a LLMD, who is very comprehensive, the heavy metals was something she talked about early on. She has me taking pectin, so I've been taking that a long time. I could ask her about the cilantro. What I really want to do is stop the mepron for I feel it is killing me. And of course, it is, as it is killing the red blood cells. I also have a DO who does the muscle testing. He said the mepron/zith/etx. test positive but if it is kicking my butt that doesn't mean there are not other choices out there. It's a real tough call to make because I have come a long way on it. I feel about 40% better in some ways but also in other ways, worse. I hear you about the potential dangers of the cilantro. I do have some lamictal on hand! for the atypical seizure activity I get. I may brave it, I'll pray on it. (as Oprah says)

Elinor, thanks so much too for your advice. My DO who I went to yesterday did say that magnesium malate would be a good short term answer and alpha lipoic acid, a good long term answer. It's all so overwhelming, I get a little burdened with which thing to prioritize. I really think when it comes down to it, it is all about balance.

((((((Betty)))))) for your sister. Oh, I do feel it in my system that it really seems like Alzheimers. So much I can't do anymore with regard to basic recognition and processing. I even have this strange body dyslexia. I may post about that elsewhere.

Thanks again all....more conversation welcome!

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aluminum toxicity is extremely common in the general population
reason:
antipersperatant: aluminum clorohydride,absorbs directly in blood stream.
use natural antipersperant without aluminum.
there are none in the general market that fit this except maybe TOM'S brand.

cooking pans: 90% of all cooking pots and pans are aluminum. faberware may make the only stainless steel cookware.
no teflon, fumes from teflon have been shown to
kill birds in homes.
seasoned stainless steel with pam will keep things from sticking.

aluminum soda,beer cans absorb aluminum into the
fluid it holds.
Aluminium ammonium sulfate ([Al(NH4)](SO4)2), ammonium alum is used as a mordant, in water purification and sewage treatment, in paper production, as a food additive, and in leather tanning.
Aluminium hydroxide (Al(OH)3) is used: as an antacid, as a mordant, in water purification, in the manufacture of glass and ceramic and in the waterproofing of fabrics.
Aluminium phosphate (AlPO4) is used in the manufacture: of glass and ceramic, pulp and paper products, cosmetics, paints and varnishes and in making dental cement.

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