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bejoy
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My IC got better on abx, then suddenly got much worse.

I wondered if the abx got rid of the infection, but then gave me a yeast problem.

I have noticed my IC get worse from systemic candida before.

Has anyone ever noticed IC improvement from Diflucan?

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I don't know, but I would think it would help. Yeast can really do a number on you! Don't rely on meds alone.

To really kick candida's butt, you need to be careful with your diet and take a good quality probiotic regularly.

DIET, DIET, DIET is the key. Then, be sure to follow the 5 step plan outlined below. It was developed by my naturopath. It works.

Candida diet and elimination:
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

http://www.wholeapproach.com/diet/

Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021202.html

"Successful control and elminiation of a Candida Albicans overgrowth requires a multifaceted program as described below. Failure to follow ALL the steps simultaneously will result in slow progress and will lengthen healing time significantly. The program should be tailored to the individual and must balance the need to eliminate the Candida and deprive it of its food source while insuring proper nutrition for the individual."

Five Steps to Candida Elimination:

1. You must starve it into submission by eliminating its food source.


2. You must kill it with anti-fungal herbs and supplements. [e.g....garlic, onion, caprylic acid, Pau D'Arco capsules or tea, clove, grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, tea tree oil, Echinacea, Goldenseal, black walnut, MSM, barberry root, uva ursi, neem leaf, biotin]

3. You must reestablish the proper balance and quantity of probiotic bacteria in the digestive tract. [...multi-strain lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidus capsules with FOS should be taken between meals to maximize repopulation of the digestive tract by beneficial bacteria.]

4. You must reestablish proper levels of all B vitamins (yeast free) and utilize other immune enhancing supplements to boost immune system function. [e.g ... B complex vitamins (yeast free), biotin, beta 1-3 glucan, colostrum, maitake mushroom, vitamins A, C, E, zinc and selenium]

5. You must cleanse and heal the digestive tract to promote proper elimination of toxins and Candida and assimilation of nutrients. [e.g...chlorophyll, MSM, omega 3 fatty acids found in flax seed and salmon oils, GLA found in borage, evening primrose and black currant oils. Pantothenic acid, digestive enzymes between meals] lyme disease in Europe is http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/EuroLyme/

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My IC gets worse if I cheat on sugar, which i dont do often. Just a lot of family birthdays in oct/nov.

I would think difflucan may help with the IC, i think when I took it, it did help some.

what abx were you on that helped the ic?

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Thanks Lymetoo. That's a great list, and you couldn't post it too often.

I have been on sugar, wheat and dairy-free diets for years at a time, but admit, I have not done a good job lately.

CGU, IC got much better then worse on penicillin IM and metronidazole (better known as bicillin and flagyl.)

I wanted a good course of penicillin because it gets excreted through the kidneys, and I thought it might knock out bacteria hiding in the bladder. Plus I muscle tested positive for it.

What are the systemic potent yeast fighters that get excreted through the kidneys, I wonder?

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quote:
Originally posted by bejoy:
What are the systemic potent yeast fighters that get excreted through the kidneys, I wonder?

Good question!

I think flagyl is notorious for setting off a good round of yeast.

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Monurol got rid of my IC for years now-!!!
Hated having it- yuck!!! OUCH!

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Kinesiologist today says definite yes on the yeast cystitis problem. Big no on bacteria in there.

So based on the progression of getting better then worse, I am betting that I got rid of lingering bacteria with my friend penicillin, and replaced it with candida with my friend metronidazole.

So I know what that means:

Throw out all the Halloween candy still hiding in every corner of the house.

Alkalinize - say bye bye to my coffee break, and drink lemon water.

Eat meat and vegetables, even though my family wants the vegtarian alternative.

Swallow down the garlic, caprylic acid, artemicin, and oregano oil, my personal favorites. (MSM for candida??)

And take those probiotics, don't just think about doing it later.

If these don't do the trick, I may ask for some diflucan.

I admit, I was feeling better and got lazy. Time to get off Lady Godiva's horse, and back on the wagon.

Thanks for your help!

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I agree with everything you said!! Probiotics is number ONE along with throwing out all the candy! I don't have anything tempting around here!!

[well, a few things...but I've sworn off of them because I've been having trouble too due to being on abx for a sinus infection....yuck]

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Elmiron helped me greatly.
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