Topic: Crazy russian patent, but could be of certain interest...
babesman
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First of all I'd like to apologize, I'm now on anti-babs treatment (relatively large doses of ART), the herx is unbelievable, i can barely type.
As I speak Russian I often scout *.ru resources for info on chronic diseases research.
This one I just found is rather peculiar.
At first I thought It's a 100% scam, but the patent holder seems to be a rather reputable scientist (b.1951), Ph.D in Biochemistry. http://tinyurl.com/223cu4
Their group inventd a new method of blood preparation for microscopy and tested it on 60 patients with diabetes.
The results: (you can see machine traslation of the whole patent below) if blood was prepared correspondingly they could find quote:"...helminths, helminth larvae and other parasites..." IN ALL 60 patient blood specimens.
They do not specify what helminths, why they choose diabetes patients. The research dated 2006.
"The scientific novelty of the offered method is that as a result of consecutive application of the described stages it was possible to detect in 100 % of cases diabetes I and II types patients' blood - helminths, helminth larvae and other parasites."
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babesman
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Thought I was mistaken and they were talking only about 100% sensitivity if a diabetic was infested. NO_NO_NO. The craziness of the patent is exactly as it is: (sorry for cyrillics) "Всего венозная и капиллярная кровь была исследована более чем у 60 больных сахарным диабетом и в во всех препаратах, приготовленных по данной методике, были обнаружены гельминты, личинки гельминтов и другие паразиты."
" In total venous and capillary blood has been investigated more than at 60 sick by a diabetes and in in all preparations prepared by the given technique, have been found out helminths, helminth larvae and other parasites."
Says head of one of diagnostic laboratories in Moscow.
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tailz
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I'm not surprised at all. I take it one step further though as I'm electrosensitive. It's parasites AND...
'The Body Electric' by Robert O. Becker, M.D. - (pages 276-278)
Subliminal Stress
...We were excited, eagerly planning experiments that would tell us more, when we came upon a frightening Russian report. Yuri Kholodov had administered steady magnetic fields of 100 and 200 gauss to rabbits and found areas of cell death in their brains during autopsy. Although his fields were ten times as strong as ours, we stopped all human experiments immediately.
Friedman decided to duplicate Kholodov's experiment with a more detailed analysis of the brain tissue. He made the slides and sent them to an expert on rabbit brain diseases, but coded them so no one knew which were which until later.
The report showed that all the animals had been infected with a brain parasite that was peculiar to rabbits and common throughout the world.
However, in half the animals the protozoa had been under control by the immune system, whereas the other half they'd routed the defenders and destroyed parts of their brain.
The expert suggested that we must have done something to undermine resistance of the rabbits in the experimental group.
The code confirmed that most of the brain damage had occurred in animals subjected to the magnetic fields.
Later, Friedman did biochemical tests on another series of rabbits and found that the fields were causing a generalized stress reactions marked by large amounts of cortisone in the bloodstream.
This is the response called forth by a prolonged stress, like a disease, that isn't an immediate threat to life, as opposed to the fight-or-flight response generated by adrenaline.
Soon thereafter, Friedman measured cortisone levels in monkeys exposed to 200-gauss magnetic fields for four hours a day. They showed the stress response for six days, but it then subsided, suggesting adaptation to the field.
Such seeming tolerance of continued stress is illusory, however. In his pioneering lifework on stress, Dr. Hans Selye has clearly drawn the invariable pattern:
Initially, the stress activates the hormonal and/or immune systems to a higher-than-normal level, enabling the animal to escape danger or combat disease. If the stress continues, hormone levels and immune activity gradually decline to normal.
If you stop your experiment at this point, you're apparently justified in saying, "The animal has adapted; the stress is doing it no harm."
Nevertheless, if the stressful condition persists, hormone and immune levels decline further, well below normal. In medical terms, stress decompensation has set in, and the animal is now more susceptible to other stressors, including malignant growth and infectious disease.
In the mid-1970's, two Russian groups found stress hormones released in rats exposed to microwaves, even if they were irradiated only briefly by minute amounts of energy. Other Eastern European work found the same reaction to 50-hertz electric fields.
Several Russian and Polish groups have since established that after prolonged exposure the activation of the stress system changes to a depression of it in the familiar pattern, indicating exhaustion of the adrenal cortex.
There has even been one report of hemorrhage and cell damage in the adrenal cortex from a month's exposure to a 50-hertz, 130-gauss magnetic field.
Soviet biophysicist N. A. Udintsev has systematically studied the effects of one ELF magnetic field (200 gauss at 50hz) on the endocrine system. In addition to the "slow" stress response we've been discussing, he found activation of the "fast" fight-or-flight hormones centering on adrenaline from the adrenal medulla.
This response was triggered in rats by just one day in Udinstev's field, and hormone levels didn't return to normal for one or two weeks. Udinstev also documented an insulin insufficiency and rise in blood sugar from the same field.
One aspect of the syndrome was very puzzling. When undergoing these hormonal changes, an animal would normally be aware that its body was under attack, yet, as far as we could tell, the rabbits were not. They showed no outward signs of fear, agitation, or illness.
Most humans certainly wouldn't be able to detect a 100-gauss magnetic field, at least not consciously. Only several years after Friedman's work did anyone find out how this was happening.
In 1976 a group under J. J. Noval at the Naval Aerospace Medical Research Laboratory at Pensacola, Florida, found the slow stress response in rats from very weak electric fields, as low as five thousandths of a volt per centimeter.
They discovered that when such fields vibrated in the ELF range, they increased levels of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the brainstem, apparently in a way that activated a distress signal subliminally, without the animal's becoming aware of it.
The scariest part was that the fields Noval used were well within the background levels of a typical office, with its overhead lighting, typewriters, computers, and other equipment.
Workers in such an environment are exposed to electric fields between a hundredth and a tenth of a volt per centimeter and magnetic fields between a hundredth and a tenth of a gauss."
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babesman
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"The report showed that all the animals had been infected with a brain parasite that was peculiar to rabbits and common throughout the world.
However, in half the animals the protozoa had been under control by the immune system, whereas the other half they'd routed the defenders and destroyed parts of their brain."
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The "common" parasite looks like to be Toxoplasma Gondii. I'll try to google who is this 'Yuri Kholodov' on my part...
This all could be rather interesting in fact...
Toxoplasma is a close Babs relative, to put it so --- with less scientific strictness...
Also - if magnetic impulses could reactivate parasites with such efficiency there might be certain other factors doing the same thing. (which could or could not be neutralized).
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CaliforniaLyme
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O/T aside and then back to topic!!!
OH MY GOD YOU SPEAK RUSSIAN I LOVE YOU*!)!*)!!! Well, I love you if you READ RUSSIAN and want to help translate some Pubmed abstracts on TBDs from Russian Journals... pleeeeease!*)!*)!>!?>! The Russians have done more research on TBE than any country and we have TBE virus types in the USA too- Would you have any interest in getting some articles and translating them for The ALS/Lyme Page???? (Please*)!*>??) Sarah
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D Bergy
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I am guessing they are looking for a bacterial or parasitics in diabetes patients because some believe there is a very specific cause of this nature.
I am of the same inclination, especially type 2 diabetes. Very interesting findings. It would be nice to be able to find out more about it.
D Bergy
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babesman
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California, I believe I've read (on my level of understanding of course) most publicly available in Russian info on TBE.
Not all articles with no Pubmed abstracts are unfortunately available online and the specialists are quite reluctant to digitize and "spread them for general public good" due to understandable reasons. Besides, they are mostly in the form of "reports" from some 1970-1980 'Conferences' etc, and not formal journal submissions (non-reffered anywhere).
If you want my opinion the chances i.e. chronic lymer could be running "slow stealth TBE virus" are quite low, but in recent years they managed to utilize some old chemicals for prophylactics (they found them to possess antviral properties). These drugs cost literally nothing and can even substitute TBE-IgG in some acute cases after the bite. I forgot the name of the substance - I'll need to recheck it, so it's of importance to have it in your kit when you enter the forests.
If you find russian anything of interest on pubmed - send a PM of course - I'll try to locate it - most research are from 60-80 but -- you see here we have a nice 2005 investigation with totally helminthic serological diabetics.
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CaliforniaLyme
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Thank you BMan*)!*)!!!! I think a RARE Lyme patient may have a TBE type coinfection, not commonly*)!!! But Thank you much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best wishes, Sarah
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tailz
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Toxoplasmosis, babs, whatever I have - with how I can feel cell phones and magnetic fields of any type now, I am convinced my parasites are winning because of the techno boom.
Everyone is affected, whether or not they are able to feel the radiation, and the number of cell phone towers will only go up.
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babesman
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tailz, I've found a certain professor Rinat Gimranov who claims to be academics Yuri Kholodov student.
He's at Department of clinical neurophysiology RUDN university, Moscow. 011 +7(495) 109-614 no emails there though.
There is Department of Prophylactic Medicine they have email there: [email protected]
you might wanna write them something in English, to ask about that magnitoresearch department (their neighbours) and prof. "Rinat Gimranov" - their e-mails, etc.
This is what I could suggest for now. But they in fact see magnetic impulses as some friendly phenomenon as far as I understood they use magnetism in their neurophysilogical experiments on patients'.
"..I have been treated by magnetic impulse 80000 times stronger than the magn. field of the planet. ---- Magnetic stimulation can really raise perception capabilities and improve memory, - says head of clinical neurophysiology department of RUDN. (---Prof Gimranov)..."
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Tailz - I'm not a scientist but can't some electromagnetic frequencies also be used for healing?
They aren't all bad. How is it that you can sit in front of a computer?
I'm not trying to be sarcastic but aren't they all similar in effect.
Any electricity would produce the same effect as cell phones?
There are wires & lines all throughout the house, as well as the street, & world in general.
"Besides using the woodpecker grid to target a population, the entire electrical grids of nations can be used as "channels" for disease patterns to be broadcast to all people near that grid. Your own house wiring can become an antenna, broadcasting these "shadow" patterns of disease, weakening your immune system.
And here one faces the frustrating fact that the same power grids could be set to channel patterns which would keep the entire population healthy, rejuvenated, continuously bathing in the time-reversing old-age-defying energy of the spacetime vacuum. We have no idea yet of how long the human life span could be increased with this new technology. People might be able to live two centuries given full humane development of this technology."
I have heard of the "woodpecker signal" & it involves microwaves used for a negative effect (it's a long thing to go into & may not be of relevance here).
The reason I'm bringing this up is because I have read reports by Russian scientists that scalar waves can be used for healing...
Have any of you come across any info about scalar blankets?
I've heard they are in use in Russia.
Just curious...
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pamoisondelune
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I read Russian too, and can translate texts that you send me.
However, i live in the country and can't go to libraries to do physical research.
Also, i haven't dealt with the Internet alphabet barrier yet. I don't yet know how to switch into and out of cyrillic or how to type in cyrillic on my computer.
Also i don't have a scientific background and am not a Russian person, myself.
Also i'm not interested in Encephalitis and wouldn't want to be deal with encephalitis at all. But in general, i'm a background resource.
----somewhat here, pamoisondelune
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Wow, some Russian-literates! I've had a couple of classes but find I can't even decipher the cyrillic alphabet these days....
Babesman, this is quite interesting. I wish we knew more of the story! This patented process of preparing blood obviously confirmed the helminthes in both types of diabetes, but I'm not sure we can make the jump to conclude that there may be a parasitic etiology without knowing the findings in OTHER blood samples...... still, this process has some far-reaching implications, I think.
I find it rather fascinating that 40 years ago, we didn't trust much of what the Russians did or said..... and now we find ourselves seeking out some of their scientific studies because we have little faith in our own (or our nation's willingness to even do any these studies at all).....
Tailz, 100-200 gauss is incredibly high, isn't it? I mean, I think the most powerful MRI in the nation is only like 7 gauss or something. Where would we encounter such high EMFs in everyday life?
(Speaking of MRIs, your information makes me realize WHY so many people get panicky when having an MRI. Of course, this is always written off to the claustrophobic effect, but I never did believe that. I'm not claustrophobic, yet the first MRI I had really spooked me. Subsequent MRIs did not. Come to find out, that first MRI was on a much higher gauss machine than my subsequent MRIs.)
Anyway, I realize that some kind of `stress response' is activated even by weak fields in the ELF range, so I'm not trying to argue the point - just trying to understand it.
Do you have a definition for scalar waves that I can understand, Sparkle? Sort of a Scalar Waves for Dummies explanation? Google wasn't much help.......
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