daystar1952
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Has anyone here been told to buy or rent an oxygen concentrator and hook it up to yourself when say on a treadmill or rowing machine?
I tried this last year and it really seemd to help but then, like anything, I stopped doing it. Summer came and I began going for walks etc.
It seemed to me that I was able to row much longer than I would have normally without the oxygen andI felt better overall. Of course that could have been coincidence. This is supposed to be beneficial because it helps you to excercis a bit longer and it should be helpful for oxygenating the tissues better and killing the lyme.
Any one here tried this?
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sparkle7
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This sounds interesting. Increasing O2 levels has been know to kill
pathogens like Lyme. Do you need a prescription to get one of
these machines? It would be enlightening to find out how much O2
reaches the cells from breathing & what kind of percentage
increase using a concentrator creates. I guess, using it during
exercise would increase the absorption since the blood flow is
increased.
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daystar1952
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Well....I was given a prescription in Penn to take home to CT. So....I would think Penn allowed this but when I went to a medical supply store in CT with my prescription, they said...oh no....you need all sorts of pulmonary tests to be able to rent one of these. I said well I don't have them I just have a prescription. They said sorry. I asked if I could buy one then. They were just horrified. We're talking about oxygen here folks. I couldn't believe it.
So, I guess it varies from State to state
I was finally able to buy a used one on line but I had to say I was using it for craft purposes. That's the law. It seems that the law is "protecting" us from anything that is good and useful
I really should start using it again
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treepatrol
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Thats crap. What do they think athletes use on the sidelines and they are healthy.
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I recommend reading,"The Clinical Manifestations and Assessment of Respiratory Disease-Terry Des Jardins. George G. Burton"
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daystar1952
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Sizzled.....does that book tell how breathing oxygen can be dangerous?
I had heard also that athletes used O2
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Too much oxygen can be fatal. Carbon Dioxide is what tells your body to breathe. Too much oxygen wipes out the CO2 and you no longer have that trigger telling you to breathe.
An oxygen concentrator set at 2L/min. is usually not considered much different than room air. The tank oxygen delivers 100% oxygen.
Oxygen should be treated and is treated as a drug.
Be cautious
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sizzled
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Daystar....It will educate you as to what oxygen therapy does, what it is for and the biomechanizations of oxygenation via airways and blood.
Pocono Lyme is correct. You can cause O2 washout if you aren't careful.
The tanks are under strict regulations as well.
Be careful.
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lymebytes
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I was prescribed oxygen years ago for migraines. It helped very little. However, I have used it occasionally since getting LD in hopes that it would penetrate the tissues and do some killing.
I have recently started an exercise program and have thought about hooking up to the oxygen while working out, but haven't yet.
I don't really know much about the risks of it, my doctor never named any. The only thing I was told by the distributor is the facial mask is more dangerous than the nasal oxygen.
Maybe it would best be used after a workout? I don't know since others seem to think there are some dangers in using too much.
I have never had a problem though with either the facial mask or nasal route.
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I dont know about the oxygen concentrator, but when I've felt bad in the past, I would force myself to workout and in particular, go running.
And not just for a few minutes, I mean at least a mile a day or as much as you can handle.
This would usually help clear up my head. If you are capable, I would try that first.
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sparkle7
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Woody Harrelson used to have a raw food restaurant in LA where
you could rent an aromatherapy sented O2 hose you could put in
your nasal pasages for a quick pick me up. Maybe the "dangers" are
why he closed the restaruant? I guess it's worth more research into
any possible benefits or dangers from this sort of thing. We're all
just looking for some relief!
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I am a suba diver - 100% O2, if breathed through a regulator, for over 15 min is toxic and can be fatal. Thats why when you see O2 used in a emergency setting it is through the nose where outside air mixes with the pure O2.
100% O2 is used for decompresion diving and hyperbarics at specific depths at strict timed exposure.
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daystar1952
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The method I was told to use was to wear this headset that would have an adjustible out let for the O2 mixture that you could point at your nose or your mouth. It's not straight o2....and it's not as potent as wearing a mask. I actually have more stamina...as if my heart is getting more oxygen.
I also felt this increased stamina (as if my heart was getting more oxygen) , when I went on thyroid meds. You wonder ...if our bodies could be short of it to begin with or if the spirochete creates an O2 deprived environment for itself. Perhaps it's what we eat that creates a slugged O2 deprived system?
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I do 02 while exercising. Can't afford HBOT. This seems to be the next best thing. But, I have to get my heart rate up and break a sweat to get the penetration into the tissues that I need to make this worthwhile. I have a tank. It also helps with the air hunger associated with Babesiosis.
I do have asthma so, the 02 is not a stretch for me.
Can't say that I see any negative side effects.
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More Oxygen? This device interests me. Check out www.holiste.it and click on English. It helps if you can read French of course as there is a lot of info on it in french.
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I think if I used an oxygen concentrator I would turn into an airhead.
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I have been using an oxygen tank at 10 leters per minute on and off for years. It must be used with a rebreather, the typical nasal canualas won't do the job.
When I first started doing it several years ago I would actually herx and was not able to do it as often as perscribed.
I was just talking with my doc about how expensive the oxygen is this time and he brought up the concentrator. I may end up getting one of those, because right now the oxygen is costing me about $148 a mth, and the concentrator is about $350-450 to own.
I think the increased oxygen levels were VERY useful though as one weapon in fighting these oxygen hating critters.
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lymebytes
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As Johnlyme1 above said O2 without outside air is dangerous. Since I posted on this thread last I have found out if you do not breathe out carbon dioxide it can be dangerous or fatal. That is why oxygen masks are not used often, you cannot exhale carbon dioxide. Also, it is not good to use WHILE excercising, after is ok.
Burrascano once said the "tiniest" bit of oxygen kills Lyme, it can't survive any amount of oxygen.
What Oxygen does for you
Receiving home oxygen therapy offers a number of substantial benefits for patients. For instance, sleep disruption due to low oxygen levels will be reduced by using supplemental oxygen. Oxygen therapy has also been known to help improve concentration and memory. Those suffering from oxygen starvation often feel weak and listless. Receiving oxygen increases energy levels and provides an overall feeling of well being. Clinicians often recommend a combination of supplemental oxygen and regular exercise to improve patients quality of life.
Additional Benefits of Oxygen Therapy:
Headache relief Increased clarity Boosts immune system Relieves nausea Can prevent heart failure in people with severe lung disease Allows the bodies organs to carry out normal functions Its decline may prompt muscle spasms, or the 'agonal phase,' from the Greek word agon, or contest."
Symptoms of possible oxygen deficiency: overall body weakness fatigue circulation problems poor digestion muscle aches and pains dizziness depression memory loss irrational behavior irritability muscle spasms acid stomach lung problems increased unhealthy bacteria, germs, viruses and parasites almost any illness is created or worsened by lowered oxygen supply.
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