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roro
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I am SO goshdarned sick of hearing about everything and anything from cancer to a bacterial infection being misdiagnosed as a psychiatric disease.

in my opinion, since they do not know what causes mental illness, it can be caused by anything, and is probably early signs of a physical illness.

doctors are hiding behind these dx, using them as an excuse to not treat a patient with the meds they really need,

or to treat them with dangerous psychiatric meds that they have no clue why or how they work because they do not even know the cause.

its all hocus pocus to me, and psychiatrists should be trying to figure out why all these people have the symptoms instead of labelling and experimenting

its bad enough when someone is labelled with mental illness before ruling out a physical cause to their symptoms when their symptoms are all mental/cognitive.

but when people have PHYSICAL symptoms like fever, pain, bad results on imaging of body parts, bad vitals, etc, it shoudl be CRIMINAL to write them off as mentally ill only.

I feel this issue directly affects lyme, but is not only related to lyme but many other diseases as well.

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roro,

This is a common rant and most of us here are behind you 100 percent.

Tin Cup posted a DARN GOOD article from a Psychiatrist regarding this that definitely points on many of the issues you are discussing. Take the time to read it. It's VERY VERY good.

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=061747

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roro
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maybe this should go in activism, but I have an idea that the reason dr's want to dx everything as "mental illness" is because

the private disability insurances only have to pay 2 years on a mental illness claim, but have to pay for life, or until age 60 something on physical illness.

i know dr's get kickbacks from pharmaceutical co's and health insurance, what do they have to do with disability?

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roro, [group hug] [kiss]

just stopping to give you a needed hug; i tried to access tincup's post last night, but my pc is acting up really BAD! every screen i click on here comes up first with the PROGRAMMING CODES and then with luck after awhile, the correct screen MAY OR MAY NOT pop up. [cussing]

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Roro,

I used to work as a medical interpreter for worker's comp. It's amazing what the insurance doctors would do and I sure wouldn't call it medicine. They would have a patient bend over real quick, never really look at them (otherwise they would have to acknowledge them as human beings) call the 2 minutes in the room a thorough medical evaluation, bill megabucks and then deem the patient's back pain as make believe.

The doctor got a big paycheck from the insurance company and the patient was sent home unable to work with no coverage.

I don't know how these docs look themselves in the mirror.

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i absolutely, completely agree with you.

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I hear you.

In my 20's I was treated for 'acne' with minocycline and amoxicillin. I'm pretty sure these meds kept my undiagnosed Lyme at bay. Went off the acne meds, and got nailed with 'depression' and 'anxiety' in my 30's.

I spoke with a lawyer who told me that once doctors see a psychiatric dx in your records (or even see psych meds), they automatically take that direction. I think they are taught that.

I think it's even worse for women. Pretty much everything gets blamed on depression, anxiety, OCD, anorexia nervosa - and my favorite, perimenopause/menopause. Why don't they just start diagnosing women as bein Y gene deficient?

I wish I could have afforded counseling for the trauma of seeing myself age and disintegrate in a matter of months, and having to remain in that pathetic state as long as I did. It states in my records that I looked older than my stated age.

Let me tell you - it was pretty traumatic to see that in the mirror virtually overnight - there was really nothing gradual about it.

Did any of my doctors ever consider that they might be THE source of my anxiety and panic? I was dying, and nobody would help.

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Right on, Tailz.

Postpartum depression and not wanting to care for my boys - that's all doctors could come up with about me when I was paralyzed from the neck down.

Then, I was anxious (really, in terrible pain) and needed electric shock therapy.

I was obese and delusional.

My affect was inappropriate.

I needed anti-schizophrenia medicine.

And the list goes on.

Bunch of losers. [cussing]

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It gets them off the hook to label us as psych cases. They tried that with me too when no one knew what was causing my pain. When I found out last year, I went to the chronic pain facility and demanded that my records be changed to state a Lyme disease diagnosis had come in.
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They are a bunch of frauds. The "diagnoses" in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual are VOTED into existence by a show of hands!! The psychs on the "mood disorders" panels that come up with the names and "symptoms" are almost all on the drug company payrolls. For example, the criteria for "Social Anxiety Disorder" were worked over to be sure to include 5% of the population to make Paxil (an addictive antidepressant) a block-buster drug.

A site that looks seriously at physical causes for psych dx is http://www.alternativementalhealth.com

The drug side-effects are horrific. And, don't get me started on shock "treatment." What a human rights violation THAT is!!

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quoting tailz...

It states in my records that I looked older than my stated age. ....


tailz, don't feel bad; i've had that for 10-15 years and i'm only 58 with bones that show are 80 yrs. old said my hip surgeon! [lol]

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quoting tailz...

It states in my records that I looked older than my stated age. ....

Isn't it amazing these so called educated people, don't have the common sense to attribute this to physical illness???

They also seem to judge us by our clothes, if we have make up ,our hair done, Or even if we have jewlery on. If we aren't dressed to the nines, then we are depressed. And if we are, then its all in our heads! Either way we can't win!

I think the Neuro did this the last time I was there! She was dressed more for a night on the town, tham someone at work!

Due to daily swelling, I haven't worn any rings in yrs.I had one dr ask me if I was having marriage problems?? I asked him, where did that come from??

He said, he asked because I was wearing a crucifix and my watch, but not my wedding ring! So he thought that might be "part of my problem", marital discord. I asked him if he would have asked a man the same question and he changed the subject, without a reply.


Depression is the answer to everything!
Take care, dakotasmom

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I think that whenever a Duck cannot come up with a viable explanation

Of what is the cause of a multitude of non-related symptoms (except in Lyme [shake] )

They lean toward the "mental illness" diagnosis.

I've been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder too many times.

Xanax and Paxil Rx'd out of the ying-yang [Eek!] .

Easy catch all diagnosis which really means they don't know what the heck

Is wrong with you. [dizzy]

Hang in there. Hope you feel better soon.

Just for the record, I think we are all a little bit "crazy". [Big Grin]

Hugs,

Geneal

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Actually I think psych symptoms indicate a progressed physical illness -

whether it is an infection of some kind, toxin of some kind, some vitamin or other needed element(s) way off balance... thyroid etc.

They attack llmds because the diagnoses can be made clinically but llmds do try to rule other things out.

Alot of times psych diagnosis seems to be given out without ANY investigation of any possible cause.... just here is these pills to help your symptoms (a very toxic pill often)

with no concern if there is a physical cause to the psych symptoms.

such a double standard.

sorry you had to endure so much... hopefully some day diseases like lyme will not be dismissed as something a person's psyche dreamed up.

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Dakotasmom, my husband left me in the local ER on our way home from a day trip because I was paralyzed and in terrible pain.

The doctor wanted to know if my husband and I had marital problems because he left me alone.

My sister, who was there at my side, told him, "No! They have three children, one with Down syndrome, so he took them home to be fed and put to bed!"

Thanks, Sis!

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as long as the drug companies and insurance companies are making out like bandits i don't see it changing much

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