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daisys
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Ever since I started treatment with abx (doxy and ceftin), I have had joint pain. This has been for 6 months now. I don't remember joint pain being a problem for me before this. (Except knee joint pain before I found out I'm gluten intolerant.)

I was thinking it's just herxiing--in other words, the toxins from the dead bugs were causing pain. I am diligent about detoxing to keep the toxins moving on out.

Now, I'm starting to wonder if the pain is indicating actual damage. It seems that my arm muscles are getting weaker.

Recently, I had an MRI that indicates possible degenerative disc disease, and I've been advised to find a neurosurgeon. I've searched here, and it looks like this may be related to lyme disease.

Any thoughts on this? Any experiences for me to consider? (I am in the process of making an appt with a neurosurgeon.)

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Hi Daisy

Having joint pain show up during treatment is common-

One thing you SHould take is Glucosimine Sulfate-

GS rebuilds cartilage --

there was a post about GS in the last few days-
good info there--Jay--

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Daisy, I've been on the buhner herbal protocol for about six weeks and I am also experiencing new joint pain. it sucks!

I agree, glucosamine sulfate gets high marks. I've been giving it to my two old dogs for about four years --

one dog is 15 and one is 20 -- the glucosamine has completely healed the younger one, who used to be stove up, and I believe it plays a part in the older one's good health.

I have just started taking it myself. I take it with MSM and hyaluronic acid.

good luck.

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DAISY, did you VIEW your mri and have dr. explain it to you what they are seeing.

i've had constant pain in left groin area for decades! xrays always taken, but when i was sent to a ortho surgeon; you need hip surgery; it's bone on bone! no one ever said that even though i'd had xrays taken 6 months earlier and they had seen changes too.

best wishes; i agree on glucosamine!!
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Thanks everybody! I used to take glucosamine along with condroitin, for years. Then I started taking sam-e and it seems to do the same thing for me, plus enhance my mood. I heard it also helps rebuild cartilige. so I've been taking it instead of the other.

I guess there's no reason not to take both, so I'll go back on it, especially since it's getting a 100% vote here.

Jay, I'll go back and find the other thread and read it, thanks.

Cottonbrain, that's funny--the pets get better care than their people usually, don't they? We should all be going to vets. [lol]

BettyG, I asked for a copy and was sent the MRI pictures and comments.

The only out of ordinary thing is this: (Long story, short) At C5-C6 there is "stuff" consistent with degenerative disc disease, and "something" on the left side that together, these have effect on the C6 nerve root. No canal stenosis or cord compression. There's "something" that results in mild bilateral foraminal encroachment.
So..that means left side disc herniation at C5-C6.

My LLMD is out of town, but I'm hoping this is from lyme, and either the damage will stop, or at least slow down with ongoing treatment.

The pain has consistently corresponded to lyme symptoms. I did have an accident and landed on the back of my neck in my teens, but have never felt any pain from it. So, I think it's the lyme, or the abx causing it.

Thank you all for responding.

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