dbpei
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Is there any way to know whether you have jaw cavitations without exploratory surgery?
Did any of you have this condition and have it treated? What was the outcome?
What are the symptoms of jaw cavitations?
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Razzle
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Some dentists use the help of an electro-dermal screener or muscle testing to determine the presence of cavitations.
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There are certain ultra sound machines that can be used. But I remember hearing something about this practices not be "allowed" for some reason. But I think there are still some docs that fly under the radar with it.
I think a very experienced muscle tester is reliable, and could produce accurate results.
Also an icat (cat scan) is another good tool.
In Montreal, I suppose not far from you, there is suppose to be a good bio dentist who is known for cavitations.
Some of the bio dentists I've been to prefer to do several treatments of ozone to see if that will resolve the issue before rushing into surgery. I've heard mixed things on surgery.
I had a tooth pulled 2 years ago (upper back left). It threw me into one of the worst tailspins of my life. And the idiot doc left in a tiny piece of the root. I had many many dentist visits with several bio dentists with many rounds of ozone. A regular x-ray did not show the root tip but the icat did. I was hoping my body would push the tip out, but that didn't happen. I finally had to have a cavitation surgery. Things hardly resolved quickly. I still needed many rounds of ozone. My left-sided jaw issues are still not fully cleared.
Oil pulling seems to help a lot. Also treating for yeast/fungus is another biggie. It's now become totally tolerable, so I'm just in a place of acceptance at the moment. I think there is more going on (mold, fungus, perhaps parasite infection, etc. in the area). I've heard the Sanum (homeopathic remedies) can be good for a lot of these dental/jaw issues.
I would try to do all you can before resorting to surgery. Because of our compromised health, I don't think we always heal properly (with the bone growing in as it should, etc.), plus with the possibility of infection moving right in. Try some of the things I suggested above. I think they can be a big help to you.
Best to you.
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I am going to a new biological dentist (this one is reputable) later in the week and wanted to be prepared with as much knowledge as possible before my visit.
I have a feeling that a problem with a previous dental implant and failed root canal might be behind my lingering symptoms of tinnitus and electrical head buzzing sensations. Most of my other symptoms are gone (or minimal)!
I treated with ABX for a year and am now on herbal ABX and lots of nutritional supplements. I feel much better than I did when on the ABX, but my tinnitus and head buzzing are still bad.
I recently had started acupuncture, which seemed to help, but I have had a bad couple of days. (Isn't that the way it is with this illness - just when you think you find something that is working, you feel bad again...)
I want to avoid surgery and additional dental work if at all possible - as the last extraction was so traumatic. I am interested in the ozone treatment and any other noninvasive means of treating.
I haven't had any cavities or needed any work in a few years. I have read a lot of controversial stuff about the surgery for jaw cavitations, but I know there are a few people on lymenet who have had the surgery.
Tammy, I really appreciate your advice. I had not heard of that homeopathic remedy and will look into.
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Good luck with your bio dentist appointment. I hope he/she is the right fit for you and that everything falls into place easily. I bet you are right about the implant and root canal. Some things are fairly easy to fix. I hope this is the case for you.
Wishing you the best.
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Thanks, Tammy. I will keep you posted. This illness is just so confusing... Posts: 2386 | From New England | Registered: Aug 2011
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Well, it looks like I DO have a dental cavitation! I have had a swollen area on the roof of my mouth for the past few weeks that comes and goes. I got it checked out today by my regular dentist and he told me it was a fistula that was draining from an infection somewhere.
He took an xray of the teeth in that area and we discovered that the bone is gone around the tip of a root canal that I had done in 2010. The dentist thinks I need to have the tooth extracted by an oral surgeon. He believes the bone is infected by the looks of the xray.
I am scared to death, but relieved that perhaps we are finally getting closer to figuring out why I have such unusual auditory symptoms and horrible tinnitus. I think it might explain that feeling of seltzer and fluid moving in my head as well.
My dentist recommended an excellent oral surgeon in the area. Is it better to go to a very reputable oral surgeon or a biological dentist who is not an oral surgeon for something like this?
What should I do before (I know not to take Vit C), during and after the surgery to protect myself and detox? Any help would be so appreciated!
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I would go to a reputable oral surgeon. This may not be easy.
Why no Vit C?
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The Vit C prevents your blood from clotting from what I understand. Thanks lymetoo. I am trying to research as much as I can right now. This is so scary. Posts: 2386 | From New England | Registered: Aug 2011
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Homeopathic Arnica (for pain, trauma), Hypericum (for nerve pain) and Phosphorus (for bleeding, to encourage healing after tooth extraction) are what I used to heal after my wisdom teeth surgery. I did not use any pain meds, and healed very nicely.
My current biological dentist recommend these same remedies to me last week after he put in a new crown on a tooth that had a very, very deep cavity (he saved the tooth; other dentists said it needed a root canal).
Before surgery, make sure you are well-nourished with Vitamin K1 (found in dark leafy greens) and minerals, and avoid dehydration.
After surgery, use the homeopathy (rotate them as often as needed the day of and the day after, then as symptoms improve you can cut down on frequency of dosing).
And make sure to have good quality sea salt or Redmond RealSalt (see http://www.realsalt.com ) for making the warm saltwater rinses that are recommended for after the surgery.
And lots of soft, easy to eat foods Make some homemade applesauce, pureed veggies (can freeze in ice cube trays or small bags for easy use), etc., ahead of time...
Also, if your dentist has a cold laser unit, ask if you can come use that as much as you can after the surgery to help reduce infection and stimulate healing.
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Thank you for all of your suggestions, Razzle! It sounds like you did really well with your surgery. That is very reassuring to hear about. I wish I knew who to go to at this point. I will be making lots of calls today.
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I did not know I had Lyme when I had my surgery (I was in college then). But I did go to the best oral surgeon in the state (Montana) at the time, and he was impressed with how well I healed using the homeopathy.
Being *ahem* a little older now, I don't heal as quickly, but the homeopathy still helps a lot when dealing with dental issues.
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