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Topic: does Bb reproduce when in cyst form?

lpkayak
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i am sure i remember seeing a slide at a conference when one kete went into cyst form and then more than one came out.

but then, my brain is messed up so maybe i didn't.

does anyone else know about this? it was the threead on buhners herbs that made me think to ask

i have assumed this was true for along time-and that is why pulsing is important...and probaqbly why when some come off iv they get real sick again

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ByronSBell 2007
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There is no hardned proof out.

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METALLlC BLUE
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Yes

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lpkayak
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anyone else??? who did the slide i saw...macdonald?

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Truthfinder
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I'm having a Lyme moment - wasn't it the Brorsons (Borson?) - I'm not sure I'm spelling that correctly.

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METALLlC BLUE
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TF,
Yes

1997: Brorson �, Brorson SH. Transformation of Cystic Forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to Normal Mobile Spirochetes. Infection. 25: 240-246, 1997

1998: Brorson �, Brorson SH. A rapid Method for Generating Cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi, and their Reversal to Mobile Spirochetes. APMIS. 106: 1131-1141, 1998

1998: Brorson �, Brorson SH. In vitro conversion of Borrelia burgdorferi to cystic forms in spinal fluid, and transformation to mobile spirochetes by incubation in BSK-H medium. Infection. 26: 144-150, 1998

1999: Brorson �, Brorson SH. An in vitro study of the susceptibility of mobile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to metronidazole. APMIS. 107: 566-576, 1999

2002: Brorson �, Brorson SH. An In vitro study of the susceptibility of mobile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to hydroxychloroquine. Int Microbiol. 5: 25-31, 2002

2001: Brorson �, Brorson SH. An in Vitro Study of the Susceptibility of Mobile and Cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to Ranitidine Bismuth Citrate. Int Microbiol. 4: 209-215, 2001.

2004: Brorson �, Brorson SH. An in vitro study of the susceptibility of mobile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to tinidazole. Int Microbiol. In press, 2004.

2007: Grapefruit Seed Extract is a Powerful In Vitro Agent Against Motile and Cystic Forms of Borrelia burgdorferi Sensu Lato Infection. 2007 Jun;35(3):206-8. Brorson O, Brorson SH.

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TerryK
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I've read that up to 5 can come out of one cyst.

http://www.lymeinfo.net/medical/LDAdverseConditions.pdf

http://www.lymeinfo.net/medical/LDBibliography.pdf

http://www.lymeinfo.net/medical/LDCysts.pdf

Terry

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ctlyme
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I think i have read somewhere that even when in cyst form they shed blebs and those also set off our immune system.

It never made sense to me that if most of them are in cyst(not that you can ever proof that) form because of ABX or Herbs that you still have symptoms.

If the above is true perhaps this is why.

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lpkayak
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thanks for coming up with the study.

do you think this means pulsing or cyst busters are real important...

and/or

those who feel better on abx but immediately relapse when off them are really just getting worse but they don't know it?

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METALLlC BLUE
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I made a post in another thread regarding Cyst Busters, I discussed my theories on them and how to kill them.

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