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aklnwlf
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Hi there!

Does anyone know if far-infared sauna or the Bionic 880 increases low HGH.

It would be wonderful if they do because the HGH injections are so very expensive.

I'll try to search on here for other info in regards to HGH but know the info on the Bionic 880 is just coming out.

If anyone has time to respond, thanks a bunch!!!

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Marnie
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Abstract
Purpose
Treatment with recombinant human growth hormone in adult patients with growth hormone deficiency

increases

nitric oxide *and* cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP).

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0022534705669856

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aklnwlf
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Thanks Marnie for the response. I've been keeping an eye on your recent posts in regards to cGMP and and the bionic 880.

Didn't realize that there was a link between cGMP and HGH. It would figure though.

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Marnie
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Bb has a gene to synthesize GMP!

NO, supposedly can destroy Bb...but it isn't good for us (high levels ongoing).

Go here and read my reply to my original post...re: how NO can be destructive:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=067062

Far infrared stimulates osteoBlasts (bone building).

In space, NASA was the first to research far infrared...to grow plants. Zero gravity apparently stunts growth and astronauts also heal much slower in that environment.

The wavelength 880nm is currently being explored by many...

Hand-held devices are available on the internet for about $250 - $275.

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Marnie, as usual great information!

I was wondering if you ran across any research about pulsing the lasers and how that changes they dynamics of healing?

The bionic 880 is a pulsing laser in which it varies the intesity. It would be great to know if this is used to penetrate deeper into tissue.

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Check this re: pulse frequencies...

LightWorks High Intensity Pulsed LED System
http://www.elixa.com/light/lightworks.htm

In Auto function, the lights cycle through 8 unique therapeutic modes* for 4 minutes each. You can also manually select a pulse rate or constant (no pulse) mode.
*292 Hz, 584 Hz, 1,168 Hz, 2,336 Hz, 4,672 Hz, 73 Hz, 146 Hz, Constant

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http://www.elixa.com/light/nogier.html

NOGIER frequencies:

For a more extensive explanation of the NOGIER frequencies, visit http://www.sedatelec.com/english/acupauri.htm

Seven frequencies were developed experimentally by Dr Paul NOGIER in the 1970s. These frequencies are constantly used in routine medical practice, as they are preferentially recognized by the body. They enter into resonance with the body and specific exert effects on the body. These frequencies are used both for detection and for treatment.

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If these are the same frequencies as the Bionic 880 - you can really save alot of money with the LightWorks High Intensity Pulsed LED System. It's $295 as opposed to 6,000 or so euros...

The only difference is that it doesn't have as many LEDs as the Bionic 880 (I think the Bionic 880 has 85 LEDs compared to 55 of the LightWorks High Intensity Pulsed LED System).

It's a big difference in the price, though. You could buy 2 Lightworks & still save money...

This website does have different models available - http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

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Marnie, interesting that you mentioned NO. I read on a site for adult human growth defiency that hrgh injections increase NO and help those with heart problems stemming from low HGH.

I have the typical low pulse rate and accompaning high blood pressure and left venticle? weakness from low HGH.

From what I've read these can be improved thru hrgh injections which increase NO.

Thanks for the great info that you always pass along to those of us who aren't as far along in our journey to wellness. [Cool]

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Here's a catch...I read yesterday that NO can trigger...get this...

glycolysis.

Good or bad? We certainly need the vessels to dilate in order for our own defense system to REACH it.

Bb is "PFK dependent". It needs/is using up (?) that enzyme which is critical to the glycolysis pathway, but...

In order to make its lipoprotein cell WALLS...it has to have amino acids.

Hence it triggers gluconeogenesis.

In order to destroy a bacteria, we must damage its cell wall or stop the formation of the cell wall in the first place(this is how abx. work too). Then osmotic pressure changes can "finish the job".

I suspect so do barometric pressure changes (i.e., impact the cell wall deficient form).

What we don't want is for Bb to "curl up" and go into a cyst form.

Take a straw...roll it up...think of it as Bb...see how hard it would be to damage all those "layers"?

Back to glucose.

Get this:

"A novel far infrared (FIR) heating system was designed for selective

heating of food powders such as soy protein and

glucose."

Far infrared heats glucose?

Now we all know cancer cells need glucose to make ATP...

"We developed a tissue culture incubator that can continuously irradiate cells with far-infrared radiation (FIR) of wavelengths between 4 and 20 μm with a peak of 7-12 μm, and found that FIR caused different inhibiting effects to five human cancer cell lines, namely A431 (vulva), HSC3 (tongue), Sa3 (gingiva), A549 (lung), and MCF7 (breast).

Then, in order to make clear the control system for the effect of FIR, the gene expression concerned to the inhibition effect by FIR were analyzed.

In consequence, basal expression level of HSP70A mRNA was higher in A431 and MCF7 cells than in the FIR-sensitive HSC3, Sa3, and A549 cells. Also, the over expression of HSP70 inhibited FIR-induced growth arrest in HSC3 cells, and an HSP70 siRNA inhibited the proliferation of A431 cells by irradiation with FIR.

These results indicate that the effect of a body temperature range of FIR suppressing the proliferation of some cancer cells is controlled by the basal expression level of

heat shock protein (HSP) 70A.

This finding suggested that FIR should be very effective medical treatment for some cancer cells which have a low level of HSP70. Still more, if the level of HSP70 in any cancer of a patient was measured, the effect of medical treatment by FIR can be foreseen for the cancer."

And...

"Cancer Far-infrared hyperthermia, taking the body core temperature to only 104.5 degrees,

causes release of heat-shock proteins.

These heat-shock proteins are intensely stimulating to the immune system,and appear to be able to direct the immune system to the tumors.

Many of the experimental vac-cines in FDA trials right now that have shown efficacy are based on bonding heat-shock proteins to tumor antigen and injecting them.

It is theorized that the far-infrared hyperthermia achieves aninternal cancer vaccination, as the heat shock proteins stimulate the immune system and some of the heat-shock proteins are naturally bonded to existing tumor antigen."

And when I have time...I'm trying to find out how far infrared effects the Th1 - Th2 pathways.

"Landin-Olsson concluded that in health Th1 and Th2, T-lymphocyte responses are balanced, while in type 1 diabetes there is overreactivity of the Th1 system, a phenomenon seen to a lesser extent in LADA."

The newest non-invasive devices measure blood glucose levels use far infrared technology...

I wish this pathogen wasn't so darned complex...PKC inhibitor (delta form? Infected defense cells don't die), PFK dependent, follows the cholesterol pathway...ya da, ya da....

Remember...heating the body to high levels absolutely requires replenishment of the electrolytes and water!!!

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Marnie,

Always fascinating to read your replies.

You mentioned far-infared sauna as a hyperthermia treatment.

I did hyperthermia treatments with water. The health institute that I had these done at also raised my core temp to 104.

It was tough. Had severe neck and head pressure with the first one and a continuing fever that lasted a couple of days.

Had several of them but had to discontinue due to facial and limb swelling.

Today I have my first appointment to have a far-infared sauna treatment and am curious to see how I respond and what the difference would be between the two modalities.

Am wondering about the combo of HGH and far-infared sauna or the Bionic 880 would work.

I'm no longer on antibiotics after 3 and a half years and not much improvement. So it's on to other alternatives for me.

Course, like many others here I've done traditional mixed with alternatives all along.

Also thanks for posting the info on infared technology.

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