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I started olive leaf extract yesterday morning (Tuesday). My LLMD has me on the Seagate brand 1350 mg 2x a day.
I've felt pretty good for the past week, and felt ok when I first woke up today. But within an hour of waking, I started to feel really exhausted and "out of it", and have been going downhill all day. This sudden exhausted feeling and pattern of getting worse as the day progresses is similar to how I've felt before at the beginning of a herx.
Could I be herxing from the olive leaf extract, especially so quickly?
Since I've been on antibiotics for 2 months, I wonder if starting the olive leaf extract yesterday is coincidence, and that I'm actually having another round herxing from the abx?
Another question: Can you take olive leaf extract with your abx, or do you have to wait a few hours in between?
Thanks!
Erica
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Peacesoul
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Yes, this is from a web site I found
Side Effects
(1) Some people experience what is known as Herxheimers Reaction. This is a detoxification reaction and not a counteraction to the product.
If any of these symptoms should occur - greater fatigue, diarrhea, headaches, muscle/joint aches or flu-like symptoms, temporarily discontinue taking Olive Leaf Extract or cut back on the amount taken until the body can eliminate the toxic waste. Most individuals experience no such effect.
(2) A few individuals have reported a slight headache due to detoxification. If this should occur, any common pain reliever seems to work to curb the discomfort.
There are no toxic chemicals used in the preparation of our Olive Leaf Extract and all excipients are those commonly used in the food, vitamin or pharmaceutical industry in the United States.
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bejoy
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Olive leaf is an anti-candida product. I don't know if it has anti-lyme properties. You could be having a yeast die-off herx. A yeast herx can feel a bit similar to the flu.
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Marnie
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Similarly, oleic acid, the main component in olive oil, has been implicated in the antiatherogenic effects of a Mediterranean diet.
Oleic acid inhibits NFkB activation and cytokine-induced expression of adhesion molecules.
Although less potent than polyunsaturated fatty acids in inhibiting endothelial activation, oleic acid may contribute to the
prevention of atherogenesis, at least in part, by inhibiting NFkB and diminishing the expression of genes involved in monocyte recruitment in the arterial intima.
After I posted yesterday, I got even sicker and developed a low-grade fever which has continued for the past 24 hours. :-(
Peacesoul and Marnie: Thanks for looking up that info and posting it for me! (Marnie, your info is really scientific, so sadly went over my sick head...)
Since I was so sick last night, my dad did some research on olive leaf extract, and everything he came across said a herx reaction is common, especially on higher doses. I'm taking 6 capsules a day!
I also learned (and as Bejoy mentioned) that olive leaf extract is not only an antiviral, but also an antibiotic, antifungal, anti-candida, and maybe more.
Since I have lyme, babesia, AND high EBV (and may have developed some mild candida in the past few months from the abx), it is no wonder I am feeling so bad! I'm probably herxing from multiple sources.
When I talked to my LLMD's nurse today, she told me the doctor said I should continue on my current doseage of the olive leaf extract. He also said a herx from it is unlikely. I wonder if there was some miscommunication, because I can't imagine why he would say that? (I'm seeing one of the more prominent LLMDs, so his comment is particurly interesting to me).
Thanks again for the info!
Erica
PS. The nurse said I can take the olive leaf extract at the same time as my abx.
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