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Nessa1815
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I googled "LYME DISEASE FLORIDA" yesterday.

I came up with a lot of stuff about something about STARI. Something like a southern tick associated something.

Does anyone know about this? I read articles about a few things (not enough yet, because I have a 2 year old and the world stops if he's not happy [Smile] )

Anyway, they say that there is a "great imitator" of Lyme in the south east. That shows there seems to be a lot of but they can't prove it because they don't have enough skin samples to reproduce the bacteria to test for it. But they say it causes the same symptoms as LYME.

Does anyone have any opinions on this? I have no clue what to think any more. I'm lost. All I know is my life has been demolished.

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disturbedme
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STARI is lyme disease. It's just meaning a person was bit by a lone star tick and not a "deer" tick or other type of tick. There's good info about this in "Cure Unknown" in Chapter 28, page 172.

This is also called "Master's Disease".

There's a long story behind it and why today it's actually called "Master's" instead of just lyme disease. Basically, it has to do with Steere, of course.

Long story short: Ed Masters started finding that his patients had lyme disease, by symptoms and blood tests... Steere and others from the CDC, etc., said this wasn't possible because the outline they had made of where ticks that carried lyme disease were, were not as far south as these patients lived or had gotten bitten, etc., and said that this could not be lyme disease... so in the end, it became known as Master's disease (also called, STARI). But, really, it's just lyme disease given by another tick, the lone star tick.

Here's a website that has some more info:
http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/mastersdisease_stari.html

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Correct dist. you are right.

I would like to add some more scandal tone to this STARI.

Orginally, (before 1993 dearborn blot redo)

The ELISA AND the WB where actually not so bad of tests.

And if I rem correctly, the ELSIA b4 dearborn was testing positive for "STARI".

This is just another way to cover it up so the insurance companies could deny coverage.

I figure they took the cash saying, well, lyme wont usually kill you so, ok, I'll do it.

Thanks allen.

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Melanie Reber
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Hey Nessa,

Please understand- Technically, Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme disease) is NOT the same thing as Borrelia lonestari (STARI).

These are two distinct strains of Borrelia. We know of at least 300 strains that exist, but typically, only test for one in humans in the USA.

This does not mean that the one strain is the only one making us ill. Research will confirm that many strains of Borrelia exist and cause illness in the USA. We just don't typically look for them, and what we don't look for, we will not find.

In European countries, what we term 'Lyme' is usually known as 'Borreliosis' because there are three known (and tested for) strains that cause Lyme-like disease.

This does NOT mean that specific stains have stayed on their side of the ocean or state boundaries. In a mobile society, that is a ridiculous notion.

Everything boils down to inaccurate testing, misinformed perceptions and the prevalence of human nature to try and simplify a VERY complex disease(s).

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Tincup
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Thank you Melanie... you are right.. as usual. You said...

"Please understand- Technically, Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme disease) is NOT the same thing as Borrelia lonestari (STARI)."

Also note Nessa...

IGenex tests are made to react to B. lonestari and B. burgdorferi. Other tests aren't. That is one reason they can do a better job with their tests and catch more folks who are infected.

Also note- not just deer ticks carry Lyme (B.burgdorferi). Other ticks can too.

And B.lonestari is not just carried by lonestar ticks.

Bottom line...

Any tick can potentially carry Lyme, STARI, and many other known and unknown strains of many diseases.

Nasty little critters.

[Big Grin]

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