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hiker53
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Since some of us have had the blood smear at Fry labs with the finding of coccobacilli suggestive of hemobartonella or mycoplasma, I am wondering if the bionic 880 would kill the unknown pathogen.

Is anyone going to Germany who has this finding on the Fry test? It would be interesting to see the results.

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Me too , I am really interested to know.

I asked somebody over there in Europe but they feel that is waste of time.If I was there myself I would have tried.

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I don't know about the Bionic 880 - there are many studies about other types of light besides from infrared.

You may want to check into UV blood irradiation for this issue.

here's some websites -

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/uv_light/uv_light3.htm

http://www.fflt.org/

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The second website makes me a little leery, because they require a donation to get a list of practioners.

It would seem if their treatment worked they would want people to use it and freely advertise their practioners.

Just my opinion. Hiker53

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I think they ask for a contribution because doctors are being harassed for these types of treatments. They don't want to just post everyone's names.

They don't seem like a money grubbing, fly-by-night scam to me. You may want to call them & see if they can give you more info.

I really don't think it's necessary to go to Germany to get these types of treatments. They do similar ones here in the US but you have to search out the doctors. This is just my opinion, though.

The Bionic 880 is only infra red light. It doesn't have other wavelengths that may be more useful for mycoplasmas. Infra red light is very good but it doesn't treat everything.

Try doing a search on google with things like laser blood irradiation or UV blood irradiation. There are doctors in the US who are using light to treat illnesses.

I would think that doctors here would be better suited to treating mycoplasmas. I think there's more research here about them.

Just my opinion...

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Just found this on Wikipedia -

Melittin is the principal active component of bee venom, and is a powerful stimulator of phospholipase A2. Melittin is a peptide consisting of 26 amino acids.

Therapeutic Use

Melittin also exhibits potent anti-microbial activity. For example, Melittin has been shown to exert "profound inhibitory effects" on Borrelia burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes lyme disease (Lubke & Garon, 1997).

Melittin has also been shown to kill the yeast Candida albicans [1]) and to suppress Mycoplasma hominis and Chlamydia trachomatis infections. [2][3][4]

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List of doctors in the US that perform Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation.


http://www.medicallightassociation.com/?q=node/60

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"ATP triggers the efflux of K+ from the cell, followed by Ca2+ influx and activation of three phospholipases: phosphatidylcholine-specific phospholipase C and calcium-independent and -dependent phospholipase A2.


Whereas calcium-independent phospholipase A2 is involved in processing, phosphatidylcholine-specific phospholipase C and calcium-dependent phospholipase A2 are required for secretion.

Dissection of the events that follow ATP triggering allowed to demonstrate that K+ efflux is responsible for phosphatidylcholine-specific phospholipase C induction, which in turn

allows the rise in intracellular free calcium concentration required for activation of phospholipase A2.

This activation is ultimately responsible for lysosome exocytosis and

IL-1β secretion."

"Blocking the activity of IL-1β

has entered the clinical arena of treating autoimmune diseases. However, a successful outcome of this approach requires a clear definition of the mechanisms controlling IL-1β release."

http://www.pnas.org/content/101/26/9745.abstract

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"Phospholipase A1 and A2 digestion of phosphatidylcholine from B. burgdorferi and T. pallidum labeled with either [3H]palmitate or [3H]oleate also revealed that neither fatty acid was incorporated preferentially into the 1 and 2 positions (potential acyl donor sites) of the glycerol backbone.

The combined findings suggest that fatty acid utilization during lipoprotein synthesis is determined largely by the fatty acid specificities of the lipoprotein acyl transferases."

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