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If you can get them cheaply, Perque 1 and Perque 2 are top notch multivitamins. The LLMDs I work with sell them for much, much cheaper than anyplace I've seen them online (Online - $100+, in office ~$20).
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Nature's Way ALIVE Multiviamin. Take two a day (3 is the normal dose), and you'll get all the nutrition you need. 22 dollars will last you about 3 months. You can buy it from Vitacost. It's cheap, it's a whole-food supplement, meaning it's not synthetic in any respect. Additionally it has immune stimulants, detoxification sources, and high potency antioxidants.
You'll actually notice a physical difference in energy levels, sleep and general wellbeing. Read the reviews, you'll see for yourself.
Hope that helps. I use them myself. I buy them in bulk to avoid paying shipping costs too. One package from Vitacost is 5 dollars. If you buy a lot, you still pay a set 5 dollar fee.
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Metallic Blue, I'm really interested in the Source Naturals because I like the price! I looked on Source Natural's website, and could not find the product you suggested.
The closest thing I could find is their Life Force� Multiple. There is also a Women's Life Force� Multiple. Both look really good, and you only need to take 2-3 a day.
Are either of those what you take, or am I just not finding yours?
Thanks! Erica
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Sorry, I confused the name. It's Nature's Way.
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MB, I have been taking Nature's Way Multi in powder form for about 8 months now. I specifically go for the one with pea protein. And your right, its a great multi.
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Thanks guys! I am going to get Alive! today. I think they are sold at Whole Foods and even the local vitamin shop a few blocks away.
I'm going to hold off on the expensive vitamins until I can discuss with my LLMD. He has me on so many supplements - including chlorella which has a lot of vitamins and minerals too - that I don't want to spend tons of money and end up overloading on vitamins.
Thanks again!
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You can save your money by going through Vitacost. Wait until you know "all" the things you want, and buy it all at once. Save quite a bit of money.
Just an option if you want. The pricing I gave is "only" based on Vitacost, so I don't know how much it is through other shops.
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Nature's Way Alive! is great - I take it, too.
I take the liquid right now, got tired of downing so many pills, but the tablets are good, too.
Love vitacost...
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In my opinion there really is no other product equal to the ALIVE, except maybe NSI.
ALIVE is like the Honda Accord of multivitamins. If you want a BMW, go for the 50-60 dollars multivitamin.
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If you go alive and have a choice of soy or pea protein, go with the pea protein. Just my opinion, I personally stay away from soy it can be an excitoxin.
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Hey MB, what are you taking in addition to this? I am thinking I may also order some of this.......and I am needing a few other things and figured I might try to get them from the same source since the shipping is one price.
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I have been taking Source Naturals Life Force for men for a month now after doing extensive research on the subject - this seems to be the best multivitamin under 50$(online). There's reviews on it by independent sources and it's ranked pretty high. It also has stuff like CoQ10, r lipoic acid and a few other helpful supplements in it that cheaper brands don't have. It is worth the few extra bucks IMO.
Personally when I see that a supplement(like the mainstream Nature's Way stuff) has b12 in the form of cyanocobalamin and magnesium as oxide, I try to stay away from it as these are not the best absorbed forms.
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Tif, I don't know what you mean by the 90's? Are you talking about 90 tablets?
I'm using NSI NAC, NSI ALA, Nature's Way ALIVE, Nutribiotics Grapefruit Seed Extract. I also would say that NSI Mushroom Complex -- which is the same as Host Defense, may be worth the money, but I haven't used it yet.
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Well, so far my mom has been to the vitamin store twice today. The first time, the guy gave her the "no iron" form. Then she went back to exchange, and the directions say to take 6 pills a day.
Can someone tell me what specific Alive product I should ask for?
Thanks! Erica
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Chamade, When Metallic Blue at first mistakenly told me Alive was by Source Naturals, I went online and saw their Life Force vitamins and thought they looked pretty good.
Clarissa, yours look really good too.
Now I am so confused!
I've taking Whole Food's private brand "Women's Food Based Multi", which is only 2 pills a day. Maybe I should continue taking that until my doctor tells me otherwise?
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Tif, the reason it seems cheaper is because you have to take double the capsules to get the same dose as the tablets. The tablets require you to take 3 per day. I only take 2. Do the math on it and you'll see for the same dose, same amounts, the price of the capsules is higher for the same 2 month supply.
6 capsules equals one serving of the 90 cap $6.68, that lasts 15 days.
To get 2 months worth, or the equivalent of 180 tablets for 22 dollars, you'd have to spend $26.72
Tablets are bigger, but cheaper in the long run.
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DUH!!!!! Lymebrain is SOOOO lovely. I didn't even notice some were tablets and some were capsules.......THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.......thank you....
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I'm not, the multi I am taking now is about $80 a month......I was just trying to figure out why two 90's were cheaper than one 180........it is because one is capsule and one is tablet, and you have to take more of one than the other; I didn't see that until MB pointed it out.
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Lymetoo: Can you give me more info about Xango? I couldn't find it online.
Can you also provide info on the awards they won?
Thanks, Erica
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i wish i had more information on xango but i can't find anybody around here who sells them.
i just paid a chunk for those nature's vitamins and it says take three a day, so one bottle is only good for 10 days.
gezz, i can't afford that...
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I really like the vitamins by Pure Encapsulations. They are costly but you can find them for 20% off and you can order them without copper or iron if you want them that way.
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sorry brain dead, those alive vitamins....
i need something cheaper. it says take 3 per day so a bottle only lasts ten days...yikes...
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The ALIVE Multivitmin that I've been talking about? 22 dollars buys you 180 tablets, at 3 per day (Which I don't think is necessary), you get 60 days or 2 months of multivitamins. 22 dollars divided by 2 is 11 dollars per month for a vitamin.
I make mine go three months, by just using two. It makes it easier to take cycline drugs (Can't take the multivitamin near it).
At any rate, there are great vitamins through a number of sources. NSI had a great product, Pure Encapsulation had a great product, as did a number of others. I settled on the ALIVE based on a number of patient reports from here, as well as reading all the reviews on Vitacost - there were 114 reviews last I checked, and it had 5 stars out of 5 stars. When I looked at the actual content, I was pleased with the fact that the ingredients were from food sources, not synthetic.
What really pleased me was the vitamin had detoxification, immune stimulation, anti-fungus, antibacterial and antimicrobial activity as well as a steep increase in various vitamins that are difficult to absorb. While B12 is in the more difficult to absorb form, so are most of the forms of B12 we take in through foods. They give you around 2,500 to 3,000 % the daily allowance to compensate for the poor absorption rate. Magnesium, while in Oxide form is also in Citrate form. Oxide forms of Magnesium have recently been discovered to have an antibacterial effect, as well as one of the few minerals that has a direct effect on stimulating the immune system, protecting tendons during treatment with Cipro Levaquin, and other floxen drugs -- not to mention the heart benefits and muscle symptom benefits. It also improves sleep.
People really should be taking a strong secondary Magnesium supplement independent of the multivitamin. You'll find, if you take "only" Magnesium, and no other drugs -- that if you have Chronic Lyme Disease, you will have a herxheimer reaction with that alone. Interesting to note I'm sure.
Page 124, 125, and 125 of Lyme And Rife by Rosner note these things.
All of these are "gentle" in effect, making it a very well rounded supplement in my eyes, especially for the price. Given I've seen actual "physical and mental" improvement on the supplement, I think it's a central component of my routine. My gain in health, if I had to put it on a scale of 1-10, is about 2-3%. Exercise gives me about 5%. Diet gives me about 2-3%, and Sleep (With Ativan or Benzo's) gives me about 10% increase.
So if done correctly, just from those things mentioned, I get 20% of my health back just by living right. Those are realistic numbers. Things add up, when you choose good weapons. I would say infared sauna is nearly equatable to exercise in health percentages. It gives about 3-5% if done daily or done every other day.
If Accupuncture was added, I'm sure that would add another couple percentage points. What really adds a lot of points are the appropriate antibiotics. Bactrim and Levaquin added about 30%, but I didn't use them long enough, and thus relapsed. I didn't take them at the time for Lyme or co-infections. I took them for sepsis, so I didn't realize I'd react so strongly to only 2 weeks worth.
Tetracycline gave me 10%
Meditation gives me at best, 1%, given the difficulty focusing and quieting the mind. Same with prayer. It works well when it works, but a lot of it has to do with my ability to 'connect.
My total percentage of health at this time, as a result of making the right moves over time, is about 40-45%. It's the antibiotic portion of my routine that hasn't been done correctly, so that's just now coming into the fold. I'll also be doing Rife later, as well as chinese herbs. I'll report on the percentage points from those.
I suspect Rife will give me a good 20%, the herbs will likely give me about 10-15%, and the antibiotics of Rifampin, Minocycline, and perhaps Levaquin, should give me about 30%.
Added up, this should bring me close to 100% over the next year or two.
So, why did I explain all of this? To express that whatever vitamin you choose, as long as it's a good one that works for you, you'll see a percentage increase in health!
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