hshbmom
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Hello Lyme fighters,
I'm looking for foods that are high in protein, but non-dairy.
The pain doctor and lymphedema specialist recommended whey powder as a protein source, but it's a dairy product.
A high protein diet is supposed to help reduce edema.
The lymphedema specialist recommended the use of compression hose and a long-sleeved T-shirt 24/7, and the use of a tight headband (like one worn by skiers that covers the ears) encircling the face at night...and compression gloves.
I don't know how a person with a port can do pool therapy twice a week if you have a port and are only deaccessed (needle removed) 2 days a week.
If the swelling isn't down in 2 months, the lymphedema specialist may recommend lymph massage.
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Keebler
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I think more specifically than high protein would be glutathione and glutathione precursors - in addition to dietary protein that helps the liver make glutathione.
Also - does your LLMD know about this ??? If not, it is very important to share that information.
Adrenal support might also be very helpful.
You are drinking lots of water, I figure but light teas might also be nice - there are several brands of Green Chai that are nice iced.
And, I think anti-oxidants are key, too.
Heart support such as CoQ10, Hawthorn, etc. might be very good to consider.
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some food sources:
Nuts - Brazil nuts have great selenium (necessary for detox)
eggs (organic-fed, cage-free for "happier" eggs)
legumes
Sardines are great - I hate them, but add a little onion/garlic powder (not salt) . . . cilantro flakes, parsley and I just "down" them and chase with something tastety. Lemon helps, too.
Prince Albert Sardines are the best, in my book. The cheaper ones are nearly impossible to get down. Trader Joe's has good prices. Be sure to check the source for purity.
WILD Salmon
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Rice protein powders
HEMP is wonderful. I hate the taste, but it is VERY nutritious and full of good amino acids/protein.
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I don't know why you would need to wait for massage, I'd think that would be great now.
And, have you considered some of the finer herbs used for edema?
WHAT IT DOES: Dandelion is bitter, slightly pungent and sweet in taste. It speeds removal of inflammation and dampness from the liver, intestines and gall bladder, and detoxifies the blood. The leaf promote urination.
RATING: Gold
SAFETY ISSUES: None known. Excessive dosage may dampen appetite in some individuals.
STARTING DOSAGE:
* Crude herb: two to six grams per day
* Tea: one cup two to four times per day
* 1:5 Tincture: 30-60 drops two to three times per day
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Dandelion is also known by Western herbalists to be a valuable non-irritating diuretic.
Because it is rich in potassium, a vital mineral often lost when the kidneys are over-stimulated by drugs, it can be used safely to treat water retention even when caused by weakness of the heart.
The leaf is more effective than the root as a diuretic, and at our clinic we sometimes use it as a safer alternative to the popular diuretic Lasix. Check with your doctor before making this substitution.
Anti-inflammatory activity of Taraxacum officinale.
. . . Collectively, Taraxacum officinale contains anti-angiogenic, anti-inflammatory and anti-nociceptive activities through its inhibition of NO production and COX-2 expression and/or its antioxidative activity.
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It would be great if you could see a LL ND - maybe your LLMD could offer a few names or offer more suggestions about the edema. It is common with lyme/TBD and needs to be treated differently.
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hshbmom
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Hi Keebler,
Thank you for the suggestions. You always have good information. I appreciate it.
I wish eggs were still on our grocery list.
I don't know why massage wasn't recommended now. The LLMD cautioned that lymph massage would cause additional herxing and didn't recommend it now.
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Keebler
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thanks.
I wonder why are eggs still not on your list?
1. cholesterol ? (that information has changed. Egss are now deemed safe for hearts and blood vessels.)
2. allergy ? ( If so, bummer. I have to be sure not to have them but just every other day).
I think eggs are one of the very best foods - an egg can make a whole chicken, for crying out loud - that's a pack of power.
But, the allergy thing is understood.
Macadamia nuts are a good treat - but even if the fat is good, it does not take too many to top the quota.
THE NUTRITIONAL AND MEDICINAL VALUE OF SEAWEEDS USED IN CHINESE MEDICINE
There are four seaweeds commonly used in Chinese medicine:
Laminaria (kelp), a brown algae and
Ecklonia (the more commonly used item), a green algae as sources of kunbu (Laminaria is sometimes called haidai, to distinguish it from Ecklonia or other sources)
Sargassum, a brown algae, as the source of haizao
Pyrphora, a red algae, as the source of zicai
These seaweeds will be discussed briefly in this article.
EXCERPTS:
SEAWEED'S NUTRITIONAL VALUE (1)
Seaweed draws an extraordinary wealth of mineral elements from the sea that can account for up to 36% of its dry mass.
The mineral macronutrients include sodium, calcium, magnesium, potassium, chlorine, sulfur and phosphorus; the micronutrients include iodine, iron, zinc, copper, selenium, molybdenum, fluoride, manganese, boron, nickel and cobalt.
Aside from iodine, seaweed is one of the richest plant sources of calcium, but its calcium content relative to dietary requirements pales in comparison to the iodine.
The calcium content of seaweeds is typically about 4-7% of dry matter. At 7% calcium, one gram of dried seaweed provides 70 mg of calcium, compared to a daily dietary requirement of about 1,000 mg.
Still, this is higher than a serving of most non-milk based foods.
[PROTEIN]
Protein content in seaweed varies somewhat.
It is low in brown algae at 5-11% of dry matter, but comparable in quantitative terms to legumes at 30-40% of dry matter in some species of red algae.
Green algae, which are still not harvested much, also have a significant protein content, i.e., up to 20% of dry matter.
*** Spirulina, a micro-alga, is well known for its very high content, i.e., 70% of dry matter.
. . .
Seaweed contains several vitamins. Red and brown algae are rich in carotenes (provitamin A) and are used, in fact, as a source of natural mixed carotenes for dietary supplements.
The content ranges from 20-170 ppm.
The vitamin C in red and brown algae is also notable, with contents ranging from 500-3000 ppm. Other vitamins are also present, including B12, which is not found in most land plants.
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MEDICINAL USES
Seaweeds have a salty taste that is an indication that the material can disperse phlegm accumulation , particularly as it forms soft masses, include goiter, the thyroid swelling that indicates severe iodine deficiency.
Following are the descriptions of the seaweeds from Oriental Materia Medica (2):
hshbmom
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Can't tolerate eggs anymore....don't know if it's a true allergy, or just some Lyme-induced intolerance.
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THE REQUIREMENTS OF PROTEIN & AMINO ACID DURING ACUTE & CHRONIC INFECTION . . .
Anura V. Kurpad - Institute of Population Health & Clinical Research, Bangalore, India
129. Indian J Med Res 124, August 2006, pp 129-148. Review Article.
Excerpt: " . . . In general, the amount of EXTRA protein that would appear to be needed is of the order of 20-25 per cent of the recommended intake, for most infections. . . ."
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