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Excellent James - Just curious what else you have tried? Were the effects also examined by microscope? This could be turning into a "James Protocol"!
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I tried mms and ceftin and this produced terrible herxing followed my dramtic results about 8 weeks ago.
Basially I believed it was the ceftin not the mms.
So I didnt take mms that much.
Slowly I noticed the bugs creeping back.
Finally, after facing terrible fungal overgrowth, I ditched everything and started over with MMS and laricidin instead. Hoping to keep the invaders at bay while I attacked the fungas.
What suprised me was the laricidin seemed to augment the MMS somehow, improving the MMSs action.
It was then that I realized the ceftin was not the answer, as it leaves fungals to grow wild.
Frankly it appears the ABX are only minimally effective.
I have tried quite a bit over the past 9 months. Zith (C), rulide (D)Nuro lyme(A), Biaxon (B), Amox(A-), Ceftin(A) (best), Bactrim(C)Nuro lyme (A), plaqenell (A)(best), Art (A).
I assigned a letter grade to my impressions of each drug. These where BEFORE I had the scope up and running. So, there not based on science, just impressions.
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I forgot to list
Augmentin grade impression (A) due to the clavic acid.
I took this with ceftin and plaq and saw huge die off.
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Thanks for the info. I tried looking up Nuro Lyme, but could not find any info. What is is? I would be very curious to know what effects a rife machine had. There's a UTube video showing bacteria destroyed by Rife, but it is not Lyme.
This is extremely interesting - please continue to keep us posted!
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Just to clarify - so the Ceftin with MMS seemed to kill them all, but then after a while they started appearing again? This was also observed under a microscope? I had read not to take cell wall inhibiting abx. I wonder if the Ceftin pushed them into the cyst form and then they slowly started coming out.
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Do you take MMS with the lauricidin at the same time
or just in the same day?
sorry i'm confused
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Bryan Rosyner is the cell wall inhibitors are death traps claim.
I fell into his trap.
I dont believe it for a second anymore.
In fact...if you really, really study lyme, you should find that cell wall inhibitors are basically the ONLY effective abx for lyme.
Why can I suggest this? WEll, in Cure Unknown, a research study found that lyme uses a efflux pump to purge all tetra and marcolide class abx though this pump, rendering them much much less effective.
Ceftin is like super strong pennicillin, and augmentin contains clavic acid. This delievers a one two punch, and I uncovered a study by Dr Gasser in France that found not proof that clavic acid works better in test tubes, but hes a lyme doctor, and found using ceftin or any cell wall inhibitor abx with clavic acid improved the results clinincally.
Nero lyme is like a condition, thats it..it just means its in your brain.
To recap...it appears that unless you can turn off the efflux pump...tetra and marcolides are almost useless. They do work, but not very well.
It further in my scope appeared that mms and ceftin was able to hold down even the lyme babies, or hatchlings.
It appeared in scope that ceftin even alone held down the babies somewhat.
But it appears that MMS and laruicidin is MORE effective then any other ABX combo I have tried.
Re check results: just now...I rechecked the scope, found a few invaders...but not much, and they appeared abnormal. Meaning I believe they where on there deathbed, and thats abnormal.
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Bryan Rosyner is the cell wall inhibitors are death traps claim.
I fell into his trap.
I dont believe it for a second anymore.
In fact...if you really, really study lyme, you should find that cell wall inhibitors are basically the ONLY effective abx for lyme.
Why can I suggest this? WEll, in Cure Unknown, a research study found that lyme uses a efflux pump to purge all tetra and marcolide class abx though this pump, rendering them much much less effective.
Ceftin is like super strong pennicillin, and augmentin contains clavic acid. This delievers a one two punch, and I uncovered a study by Dr Gasser in France that found not proof that clavic acid works better in test tubes, but hes a lyme doctor, and found using ceftin or any cell wall inhibitor abx with clavic acid improved the results clinincally.
Nero lyme is like a condition, thats it..it just means its in your brain.
To recap...it appears that unless you can turn off the efflux pump...tetra and marcolides are almost useless. They do work, but not very well.
It further in my scope appeared that mms and ceftin was able to hold down even the lyme babies, or hatchlings.
It appeared in scope that ceftin even alone held down the babies somewhat.
But it appears that MMS and laruicidin is MORE effective then any other ABX combo I have tried.
Re check results: just now...I rechecked the scope, found a few invaders...but not much, and they appeared abnormal. Meaning I believe they where on there deathbed, and thats abnormal.
About the scope...I trained myself using youtube.com and bought a scope...1600x phase contrast. you would need coverslips, immersion oil, and glass slides. Total cost about 850.00 was the cheapest.
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I forgot to tell you that the efflux pump cannot purge pennicllins nor ceftin class abx.
So, thats WHY lyme goes cyst on them, and not the other ABX, because they WILL kill them.
Perhaps this is why other abx dont force lyme into cyst...perhaps because lyme is laughing at the OTHER abx.
Frankly, it appears that ABX, ANY abx is nearly useless against these invaders, not sure why, but at least in this body, they where.
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Hearing this news is kind of a bummer as I had an ID want to treat with Ceftin and Zith at the same time. My LLMD is treating with Doxy only. Hearing Ceftin is more effective makes me wonder if I'm halting improvement?
I guess everyone's different. I'm just desparate to beat this and get my life back!
I may be allergic to penicillins so I'm a bit concerned about Ceftin. It was a swelling reaction around a shot site when I was 8. I don't know if it was a true allergic reaction.
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Pauline.. Google "neurolyme" or neuro lyme. Ya gotta spell it right.
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Honestly, I have tested all sorts of combos over the past 9 months, I was in the dark at first..But did have a naturalpath duck do live blood microscopy 5times and each visit was very depressing.
We found few adults and only "BABY" adults (very short stick with a bleb on each end for abx protection). However, we found 1000s of lyme hatchlings on every visit.
But when I went on ceftin alone, I did see dramtic improvment in lyme baby counts. From 1000s in a blood drop, to 100s to 25s then even 10s. Where talking within 2 weeks...that kinda improvment is very quick. BTW, the herx was HELL.
But when I added MMS (r) I found NO hatchlings at all, not even one. Had natpath check also, and she did find some, but very few. She was very impressed.
Then I slowly gave up using the MMS and sure enough I started to loose again. At that time, I added rimprin and found what appeared as swimming sticks and lyme babies, I was told the sticks are likely staph, but I dont believe it, I think its barts jumping off cells into plasma.
Then I dumped all the abx due to fungal overgrowth that was looking pretty fearful.
Went on MMS full dose and laricidin full dose and saw over night results.
In day 5 now, and still seeing results of few, or no lyme hatchlings...I did see a couple of stray sticks around.
My body seems happier, I am loosing terrible joint pain by the day now and less fatigue.
The fact that I am waking up by 10am these days is dramtic improvment alone.
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is this the same mms that people are saying is bad news? miracle mineral supplement or something li ke that?
how is your herxing?
that fellow on utube that is using mms seemed to be having difficulties wtih it but i haven't checked him outin a month or so
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Bravo James! I'm glad something is working for you.
Like you, I had a lot of those swimming hatchlings in June. Since then I've been on Ceftin, but haven't been back to check under the scope. I've been rewatching my scope video several times, and there may have been some tiny tails on those hatchlings. It's hard to tell.
My next question: What did you notice just with the lauricidin? Did lauricicin by itself do any good?
Have you been herxing hard on this stuff? What do you do for the herxing?
I herx on just a couple pellets of lauricidin. Powerful stuff. I wonder if I should add it to the ceftin I'm taking. Did you take lauricidin with ceftin?
You've generated a lot of interest. I think blood microscopy is cool.
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nyjohn -- yes it is the same stuff others might warn you about. I suggest when they warn you, they show their proof. In other words what research had they done to so easily dismiss it.
I've been taking MMS for 6 months at various dosages. Guess what, i'm still kicking better then I was 6 months ago. And I've taken no ABX in that time.
What James is doing is remarkable, I really tip my hat off to him, and heartily thank him for his work.
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JC,
One more thing: co-infections... does the scope see them and does the MMS / Lauric acid tackle them as well?
At this point are you solely on MMS / Lauric acid, or are there other factors contributing to your success? Just want to confirm.
BTW, thanks for sharing your experiences with us! Keep them coming!
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Rehash.
I did herx on plain virgin coconut oil. I switched to laruicidin due to stomach discomfort.
Yes, I did find that laruicidin makes me herx..but I dont puke.
Seems laruicidin and MMS yeilds improvement in the scope findings.
I agree, people who discount MMS dont seem to have any proof.
I do think MMS can kill you if you go to fast. Its simply that powerful of a pathogen killer.
I find it hard to judge things on the scope that do not move. I generally only look for live pathogens moving in live blood, as those are easy to judge what it is based on there movements.
But, I do think I am seeing tons of bart, mycoplasma and yeast (fugals) in my blood.
But since these pathogens dont move much, I find it hard to judge.
At any rate...this stuff should kill them all.
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Afternoon recheck showed 1 moving lyme baby, that was about it. It appeared to die.
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James - how are you feeling after all of this? I think that may be the true test.
Lyme can live in other places besides the blood - ie: brain, cerebral fluid, intracellular, bone marrow, etc.
Also, do you recognize any cyst forms in your blood? or just spirochetes?
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I have been checking my own blood daily for about 10 weeks, and I see no relationship whatsoever to "how I feel" verses how many are in my blood.
Thinking you can tell how effective a TX is based on how one feels seems very flawed.
Perhaps if one waits many weeks..THEN, and only then may feelings display TX effectiveness. This problem is due to the powerful herx reaction.
In fact, the worse I felt over the past 10 weeks, when viewed in the scope, the LESS invaders I saw.
And so the lyme paradox comes back into plain view here.
Chorine Dixoide and laruic acid both cross BBB as they both scientists claim. I believe it. So, it appears that this combo would cover all the bases to me.
Getting back to your question...its only been 5 days, but yes, frankly I do feel better, mainly I am able to stay awake almost normally.
I had been unable to do that before.
So, I am showing improvement in how I feel.
But again, I do not believe how one feels means much of anything.
In my case it showed the the reverse.
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