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Lymetoo
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I just heard Blumenthal and now the author of Lab 257 ( Michael Carroll) speaking about Plum Island.

Blumenthal mentioned Lyme disease.

Geraldo on Fox News.

[ 08. September 2008, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]

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Lymetoo- I just saw that, too. Blumenthal said that "lyme can be a crippling disease." He mentioned another disease in the same sentence, but I didn't catch it. Good validation for us.

I don't know anything about Blumenthal, but he certainly seems concerned, as does Geraldo Rivera. It would be great if Geraldo would do a show on Lyme!

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Thanks tutu!

Is this the show Geraldo at large? It isn't on here until 11:00 PM, just want to make sure that I don't miss it.


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sunny... Blumenthal is the attorney general who took on the IDSA! Go man, go!

yes, Terry... Geraldo at Large .. I hope you were able to see it later in the evening.

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Is there a way to watch it online?

I couldn't find a link at the "Geraldo at Large" site.

Would be real interested in seeing it.

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Somehow I missed that....

Would like to see it too.

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Heck... I did some searching too.. nada.

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It was a good segment, after Blumenthal, the LAB 257's author talked also. They even mentioned the Montauk Monster as a possible "product"from Plum.
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Get out! They mentioned the monstor?

I wish I could have seen the show.

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I don't believe it! Some validation.... When are the debunkers going to come at it?

I have a friend who's a photographer... back in the 80's, his assignment was to photograph the monkeys living on Plum Island. Monkeys should not be living on an island off of Long Island in NY... something is not right with that.

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So... I take it the theory is "they" (folks at Plum Isle) came out with an "improved" spirochete ... & it "got away"?

There's oodles of hard evidence- DNA & otherwise- to show the B.B. family of bacteria have been around for better than a century, & much circumstantial evidence to show it's been around for a LOT longer. (The biological facility on Plum Island wasn't built until the WWII era... Yes?)
Still, sounds like a tasty Geraldo snippet as usual. Hope it's on again.

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Right--a new improved spirochete.
Our country has already openly admitted to a new improved brucella and a new improved anthrax.
In other words, "weaponizing" bugs.
Can you explain the epidemic otherwise? Why the first "outbreak" in Old Lyme CT? Not far from Plum Island.

And how is it that a genetically identical highly virulent strain of a vector borne disease--one borne mainly by deer and field mice--appeared in North America and northern Europe at the same time (Luft)?
He suggests some tick infested bird flew across the Atlantic.
Give me a break. Why did the strain appear in Connecticut in so many ticks at once, enough to create an outbreak of juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, and why and how did that little birdie infested with ticks fly across the Atantic (migrating EAST? what for?) and then where exactly did it drop all its ticks? Not on the ocean. Just scattered them across Europe? (Although I think his research is great this idea of a bird is silly).

Weapons labs are notoriously sloppy anyway, considering the pathogens they work with.

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The more probable problem with Plum Island and Lyme is that some of the same researchers involved supposedly did experiments in the 1950's that studied the dispersal patterns of ticks sprayed from airplanes. It makes my blood boil just to type that.

They were looking for a method of veterinary biological warfare (or supposedly, a way to protect against it if the Soviets had done this).

Obviously the idiots had no clue how much disease is in ticks to begin with, even though they probably didn't intentionally infect them with anything.

Unsurprisingly, the experiment worked, and in combination with a lot of other changes (habitat changes favoring mice, warmer weather) we now have tick populations spreading in ways they hadn't before.

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If anyone finds a link that will show this show for those of us that missed it, I would love it if you could post a link.

Sometimes they put them up a couple days after the show, but then sometimes, nothing. Sure would like to atleast get to see it.

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