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I dropped my LLMD. He suggested I got to a healing service at a church for my Lyme. NO ****. He says he prefers that his patients don't take anything for pain (even though I don't ask him for these things at all)....he is obviously a Christian man and to ask me to go to a healing service because "some people have had luck with that" was the LAST STRAW. To ask people who are in the most HORRIBLE pain for their lives to not take ANYTHING for their pain is ridiculous.
Where do I go from here? Where should I learn about herbal treatments for Lyme? Any one have any ideas what I should get or is there a successful protocol for getting rid of Lyme through herbs, etc.
I'm out of money. What should I do? Any suggestions?
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Is there another LLMD you'd be willing to see?
You can post on the Seeking a docotr forum for both LL medical doctrs and LL naturupaths.
Don't give up on treatment just because of this guy!
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I don't think it is an appauling thing to say at all... maybe unprofessional as a physician. I think lots of LLMD's don't prescribe anything for pain, mine doesn't.
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hopeandhealth,
what are your levels of magnesium supplementation and what TYPE?
Are you taking B-vitamins, fish oil and liver support such as milk thistle?
Vitamin D is also essential for body comfort.
The concern over pain meds may be due to the stress on the liver. Still, if liver support measures are used, the pain may subside - or you may be able to better tolerate low doses of pain meds.
Magnesium may also really help decrease pain. Ditto with fish oil.
I assume you've tried a gluten-free diet by now (as I assume all LLMDs suggest that). If you have not, going gluten-free was one of the very best things that reduced my level of pain to tolerable - with all the support supplements.
Other pain treatment is discussed in the Singleton book. Pain meds may interfere with herbal treatments but one herb, corydalis, is especially helpful and in the HerbSom formula by Hepapro and can work with the second protocol below.
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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about pharmaceutical and complementary treatments:
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Ultimately, you do need a good treatment plan for the infection(s). When the infections are controlled, the pain should diminish.
In the meantime, the stress on the liver can contribute to pain. Again, more about both pain control and liver support in the books above.
I hope you can find a doctor who can really work with you.
Many kinds of spiritual connections can be helpful, if not exactly to actual healing, to our enjoyment of life (even just being in nature). Still, it seems dismissive and judgmental for the doctor to suggest that particular healing service should be your sole treatment for pain.
Did he not even offer you the suggestions I have here? What I've listed is pretty academic. Anyone who's read anything about pain should have at least been able to offer this much.
And, with the right support, if other pain Rx is required, there are ways to make that a bit safer for your liver.
Pain Management - Natural Strategies to Regain Mobility
- By Nieske Zabriskie, ND
EXERPTS:
The Physiology of Pain
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Turmeric (Curcuma longa)
Turmeric (Curcuma longa) is used for numerous inflammatory conditions as it has anti-inflammatory and antioxidant activity. The primary constituent is curcumin, which is believed to exert these anti-inflammatory properties.
Preliminary studies have shown turmeric may be supportive in several conditions such as inflammatory bowel disease, rheumatoid arthritis, inflammatory eye diseases, chronic pancreatitis, psoriasis, hyperlipidemia, and cancers.9
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Boswellia serrata
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In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled crossover study in 30 patients with osteoarthritis of the knee, Boswellia serrata extract or placebo was given for 8 weeks.
All of the patients receiving Boswellia supplementation reported a decrease in knee pain and frequency of swelling, and an increase in knee flexion and walking distance.14
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Nattokinase
Nattokinase is a proteolytic (protein-dissolving) enzyme derived from a Japanese food known as natto, a preparation of soybeans that has undergone fermentation with a bacterium known as Bacillus subtilis natto.15
Proteolytic enzymes have analgesic effects in addition to their well-recognized anti-inflammatory and anti-edemic properties, indicating they may have a role to play in pain management.
Enzyme-derived analgesia is based on inhibition of the inflammatory cascade as well as exerting a direct influence on nociceptors.16 Enzymes increase speed of healing and pain relief, and decrease inflammation.
Another mechanism by which nattokinase may help control pain is through its actions as a fibrinolytic enzyme, which means it breaks down fibrin deposits by inactivating plasminogen activator inhibitor 1 (PAI-1).17
Studies show that it has fibrinolytic activity 4-times more potent than plasmin, the body's natural fibrinolytic enzyme.18 The fibrinolytic system is closely linked to control of inflammation, and plays a role in disease states associated with inflammation.
In animal studies, nattokinase can reduce markedly the thickening of blood vessel walls that normally occurs following an injury to the blood vessel lining (endothelium).
In addition, nattokinase leads to dissolution of clots that build inside vessel walls as responses to injuries.19 Enzyme therapy is used to digest the fibrin and reverse the inflammation, which is the likely mechanism by which nattokinase may help to reduce pain.
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Conclusion
Controlling pain is a challenge for many individuals.
It is a major symptom in numerous medical conditions, and can significantly interfere with a person's quality of life and general functioning.
Natural substances that inhibit inflammation and work directly on the sensitivity of the nervous system may improve the body's natural pain-reducing mechanisms.
Therefore, consuming a synergistic blend of DL-phenylalanine, turmeric, boswellia serrata, and nattokinase, which work directly on pain and inflammation, may help individuals regain mobility.
- Full article and citations at link.
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My note of caution with DL-phenylalanine: it can be excitatory. Lyme patients may be too sensitive to this.
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