must use a very experienced practitioner from what i can tell.
anyone?
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I became overly addicted to eating home cooked over cooked dhal for a bit after reading and hearing it was a good way to detox and was a good thing for chronically ill people to consume.
I still love dhal but feel it is a bit too sweet and does not help my yeast count. If I was not worried about yeast I would probably keep eating it nightly. I do love it.
I have not explored the other aspects of ayurvedic healing lately but I am a firm believer that if you are well enough to do some yoga it does help.
Oxygenbabe did mention someone once who did heal LD with ayurveda. I am sure they made more of an attempt then just eating dhal every night.
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Is there some reason why you have chosen Ayurvedic as opposed to Chinese or Western herbs? A blending of the styles is also something to consider. Adopting an Ayurvedic diet while using Chinese or Western herbs is also helpful. More about all that in a book below. Whichever path one chooses, all herbal treatment protocols rely heavily on life-style, which is very good.
Yes, you must use a very experienced practitioner - one who is not just experienced in Ayurvedic but also with lyme patients.
I don't think there is a distinct Ayurvedic protocol for lyme. But, if you find a good Ayurvedic doctor, an individualized treatment could be developed for you. Just be certain that doctor knows all about lyme and TBD and can offer clear proof of that knowledge.
Neem is one the most common Ayurvedic herbs and that is often employed for infections. Tulsi (Holy Basil) is also a frequently used. These are not for everyone, though. Tulsi can suppress thyroid and neem can be fairly harsh so, as with other herbal programs, blending and combining of formulas is important.
This is not a book about lyme. However, it is an excellent resource.
The authors of this book are schooled primarily in Ayurvedic Medicine. There is so much to learn here about the various disciplines of herbal medicine in their similarities and differences - how the body works - and so much that we can do to help ourselves with nutrition.
Quite generously, most of the book is online. You can purchase a copy at the home site or at Amazon.
I've spoken often with the main author - and even saw him when I was visiting his area. I am very impressed with his overall knowledge. He is an expert in Ayurvedic Medicine.
In addition, you may want to consider:
This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures. Even if another path is chosen, this is great for reference:
A synergistic formula of 6 rainforest botanicals which are traditionally used in South America for syphilis (a type of spirochete bacteria) and other bacterial conditions.
- Third party research is provided.
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Poster's note: while few get well without attention to nutrition and supporting the liver and adrenals with specific supplements, anyone considering complementary approaches should be sure to have first read the abx protocol for a better grasp of the task at hand.
Excellent diagnostics by a seasoned LLMD would be of great benefit. From there, various avenues can be explored. As mentioned in Singleton's book, many LLMDs incorporate support measures, most particularly those of the authors listed above.
But to be very clear: Basic, supportive herbs to "get the body stronger" or "back in balance" are NEVER enough to get over lyme or coinfections. Very specific attention must be paid to the nature, life-span and forms of each tick-borne disease (TBD).
Each infection is treated differently and it is no minor undertaking. It is best to seek guidance with skilled professionals who are truly lyme and TBD literate. They will know, specifically, how to proceed.
There are some LL ND (naturopathic physicians) who are also members of ILADS.
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thanks for the replies, and martin thanks for the pm as well.
i do have a very experienced ayurvedic doctor near me, actually he is the only person in the usa with a phd in ayurvedic medicine, and he is also an md (i think). even more importantly, he lives in tick country in ny state.
i have been on abx for just over 7 months. but i know i need to detox with better methods than just dmsa, chlorella, parsley, ole, and water + exercise. while i am at it, i'd like to see if i can kill the bugs without further abx. i know my body is not liking these pills, and neither is my wallet.
i'll see what i can learn before i decide if to see an ayuervedic doc or not. maybe just panchakarma?
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I do not make my dhal sweet at all nor do I ever add sugar. I just use organic split mung beans, Ancient Organics ghee, and organic spices with kale . Beans in general and some types more than others can be sweet on their own.
The owner of Ancient Organics studied Ayurveda in India and he is the one who got me on a dhal kick. You can always call him for free advice. He even calls my friends in Australia back and spends time with them on the phone on his dime. Of course they do order his ghee by the case. He does make the best ghee I have ever tasted. I have no financial connection to his company.
I have been listening to stories of Ganesh lately - the CD Elephant Power by MC Yogi www.mcyogi.com. I love Ganesh and use to live in Nepal briefly. But then again who does not love Ganesh?
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Isn't this the story of how Ganesh got his head?
MC. Yogi
SON OF SHIVA
High up in the Himalayan mountain peaks / their lived a beautiful goddess named Parvati / Parvati was the wife of the god named Shiva /
the king of all yogi's who destroys all demons / now Shiva loved to practice yoga deep in the forest / away from the world and all the things that lure us / often meditating for weeks and months/
practicing detachment completely untouched / but whenever Shiva left, Parvati stayed home / often feeling sad and all alone / so one day she prayed and made a wish /
for a son who she could have fun and play with / the very next morning to her surprise / a little baby laid right in front of her eyes /
Parvati could hardly control her joy / for the gods had blessed her with a beautiful boy /
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Son of Shiva & Parvati, with an elephants head and a fat belly
One day when Parvati was taking a bath / she instructed her son to protect the path / so he stood in the door just like a guard / there to make sure no one entered the yard / it was at that time when Shiva returned /
not knowing that his wife recently gave birth / when he saw the boy he told him to move / not knowing who his father was the boy refused / now Shiva's like this, truth consciousness and bliss / but he's crazy when he's angry so don't get him ****ed /
feeling dissed by the boy Shiva started a rumble / an epic struggle that shook the jungle / / then out of nowhere Shiva's trident went chop / and that's when the boy's head was cut off / / when Parvati heard the noise coming from outside / she rushed to find that her boy had died /
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Son of Shiva & Parvati, with an elephants head and a fat belly
All the gods quickly rushed to the scene / as soon as they heard Parvati's scream / she turned toward her Shiva with tears in her eyes / and painfully explained how the boy was there child /
when Shiva realized the size of this mess / he became stressed upset and depressed / that's when the god Vishnu came up with a plan / to find another head so the boy could live again /
Shiva said we'll take the first head that we find / but we really need to hurry cuz we're running out of time / deep in the jungle the gods met an elephant /
a wise old being who attained enlightenment / he offered his life so the gods took his head / and quickly returned to where the boy laid dead / they placed it upon the boys body / and at first it looked funny and even ungodly /
but Parvati said the head fit just like a glove / truly a face only a mother could love / when Shiva saw the boy becoming refreshed / he embraced his son and named him Ganesh /
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Son of Shiva & Parvati, with an elephants head and a fat belly
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I did go to an American ayurvedic practitioner years ago when I was sick and still not diagnosed. I did not think she was very good but I think it was her more than ayurvedic medicine in general that was not good.
She told me all Americans were crazy and my friend a nurse said yeah crazy for paying her $200. to hear that.
If you eat enough ghee the keets slide right out along with the excess cholesterol. Not exactly but I am not giving up my ghee addiction. I will try roasting the mung beans first from now on.
My friend in Australia can no longer eat normal food due to past stage 3 and 4 throat and brain cancer. He does not have normal salvia so he needs the ghee to keep some weight on himself.
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