I and many other people have had these creatures pour out in the toilet after doing antparasitic protocols.
Burgdorfer found filarial worms inside the ticks and as an aside found spirochetes.
I have done herbs and sea salt/vitc protocol with great success.
I am not advocating you do sea salt, but I do urge you to go after these parasites.
They are NOT microscopic and I believe a MAJOR part of Lyme disease
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what is your dosing for C and salt?
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Andrographis is a good herb to use for the filarial worms, as well as some other things.
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Does anyone know any specific stomach/intestinal issues produced by these "little beasties"?
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While there no doubt is something to the conclusions that many of us deal with these parasites and that Salt/C works for some, this website offers little documentation other than pictures. We have absolutely no way of knowing what they're of. Also...macroscopic Bb??
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The website is legit. The pictures are, too. Salt/C does work...it helped me with my diagnosis. I only did it for a week, but I ended up passing the same critters shown on their website.
I did lots of research and found several lyme doctors in Europe who actually used a Salt/C combo to "deworm" their lyme patients before starting abx treatment.
Being skeptical is a good thing. But do your own research, its out there. You will find there is science and clinical evidence backing it up.
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Amy, what dosing did you use? Anybody? Moreover, does sea salt boost the adrenals at all?
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On my 8th day of Humaworm, I may have passed something. I'm not going into details, but something weird was in there. I looked at it quite a bit.
I kept asking myself if it's not this, what could it be? I don't remember eating shoe string. lol. Hmmmmmm.
My wife is convinced they put worms in the vials so your body spits them out. The self-fulfilling prophecy. OMG. She thinks you're infected if they come out in the toilet. She's far from educated on this topic and doesn't care much honestly. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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Can the common parasitic animals described in Lyme cases get into the brain?
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seek: My husband was very skeptical but humored me (he's taken it with me twice). The first time on day 9 I passed something very significant and he was convinced. As soon as the work day ended (his office is in our home) he was on the internet researching parasites!
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Did you guys just decide one day to try it without any symptoms just to see if you had any???
I dont have any symptoms of parasites, but should I be concerned??
Seek, I like your wife's humor! She does have a point, what a way to sell a product!
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Interesting topic I posted something about Humaworm too. Is there a specific time to do these cleanses? While on abx?
Thanks for all the information gross but kinda cool and definitely educational.
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Hi Everybody,
I can tell you first hand that this site is absolutely legit. The EXACT parasites that are pictured here came out of me and many others have reported the same.
I don't think our Lyme disease is any different than yours. Given the symptoms people report such as crawling, biting, stinging etc it just makes sense.
I have been sick for over 30yrs and when these things came out of me I could only mutter "this is why I have been so sick.
Also good info at www.lymestrategies.com people doing sea salyt/vitc plus other protocols.
The key is if you do the salt/c is to pace not race and drink lots of water. If you are salt sensitive check with your doctor.
The bottom line is antiparasitics are crucial for getting rid of this disease.
Gael
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okay,
what about for a 55 lb 6 year old. He already drinks tons of Vit C but how much should he have and what about the sea salt......any thoughts?
Thanks,
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The pictures are real.IF you see exactly the BORRELIA burgdoferi picture , I saw it with my own eye after LIVER FLUSHES 2nd and 3rd .My liver pain stoped -but came 2 months later with revenge.I had no idea what the coinfections were back than.
That is exactly that convinced me I had LYME disease as I accidentaly found it listed at curezone.com while I was a member there for liver flushes and parasite cleansing forums..It was the exact way covered in a biofilm ( gelly mass that protected them and they were lines up as in a chain exactly as in the picture).
HOW in the world the antibiotics will reach them there.
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Hi 2 roads,
I have read on lymestrategies that people have given low doses of salt/c to their children and it worked well. Check that site.
Also Humaworm has antiparasitic herbs for children. I am not advocating anyone do the salt/c protocol.
I only know it worked for me and others. What I am saying is the creatures pictured on this site by this parasitologist are real and should be payed attention to by everyone with Lyme.
I am not a doctor, and I urge everyone to make their own decisions, but I feel strongly that this is a MAJOR part of this disease.
Gael
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How did you see borrelia burgdoferi with your own eyes? Do you have a microscope?
If so, what is the proper magnification to see them?
Thanks.
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it was my daughter microscope..that somebody brought for her as a gift( I recall her little brother broke it and she cried as it was not a normal regular gift but very exspensive..) was exspensive..present from somebody
I through it away when we ripped off the carpet of the bedrooms ..so have no idea what size of was...It was like a real microscope ..and she loved it ...I do not even have the box to find out .
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Thanks, Alv. So is everyone who's seeing parasites using a microscope, or are some people seeing parasites with the naked eye?
If people are seeing things with the naked eye, then they might very well be seeing parasites, but I don't see how they could possibly be borrelia burgdorferi (lyme).
I checked on Wikipedia, and borrelia burgdorferi spirochetes range in length from 9 to 32 micrometres (microns).
A micrometre is one millionth of a metre (or one thousandth of a millimetre)!
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For those with type A blood vitamin C can be really hard on your stomach.
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"Filaricidal activity: An aqueous decoction of the leaves killed the microfilaria of Dipetalonema reconditum in 40 minutes in vitro, and subcutaneous injections in infected dogs reduced the level of microfilariae in blood by more than 85%."
from another website: "AP [andrographis paniculata] extracts are also efffective in killing filaria (microscopic worms) that obstruct lymph channels in the body, leading to gross swelling termed elephantiasis. The study was done in dogs. Since no toxic effects were apparent, researchers believed that the AP plant extract would be safe for humans. No plant has previously been shown to have antifilarial action."
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Actually, this is a better link about andrographis.
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Hi Nwisser,
Informative link on this herb. Thanks. Do you know if it kills the adult filaria as pictured on lymephotos?
What kind of success have you had with it?
Thanks again for the info,
Gael
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Well, when I started taking it I'd never heard of filarial worms. It was part of a protocol for Lyme.
But I did have sensations which I attributed to the nettle that was also part of the protocol but which I now suspect had to do with the death and excretion of the worms.
I'm not going to go into that in detail but something was going on!
I'm still taking a lower dosage of andrographis and I attribute my overall improvement to the protocol.
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