Topic: gluten,dairy,nightshade sensitivity-what can I eat?!
tickled1
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I suspect that I have a sensitivity to gluten, dairy, nightshade vegetables, and nuts as well as a few other things.
I get terrible pain in my guts and back along with constipation. The thing is I feel like things are stuck in my upper GI not down low. Maybe some slight bell's palsy of the gut or something too.
I've been really bad with my diet lately and I've also been having more joint pain along with the above symptoms and think I may have a candida problem as well.
So I'm wondering, with all the things I'm sensitive to, that doesn't leave much to eat. I'd love some ideas from others that have these food sensitivities as well as to what I can eat.
I'm guessing pretty much just meat and veggies, but no nightshade veggies and no red meat or pork and no fruit b/c of sugar? That doesn't leave many options. Thanks in advance!!!!
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AZURE WISH
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I have gastroparesis (delayed stomach emptying), gerd, gastritis, hetail hernia, have to eat to avoid yeast...
so i hear ya on trying to follow multiple diets... I just try to do the best i can for eat one. try to balance it all without aggravating any of the issues.
Just so you know there is a medication called reglean that i take that helps my stomach digest faster... unfortunately for me it is still slow even with it....but maybe you could talk to your dr and see if it would help your situation.
I had the constipation issues too. Fiber just wasnt helping at all. I take amitiza and miralax for that and it is much better now.
Carbs are easier to digest than some other things so i try to eat better carbs or lower carbs of higher carb food.
I eat corn chips (plain ones)....but my stomach can only handle so much of them...
I also cheat a little on the anti yeast diet and eat some dairy (cuz i am real limited in what i can eat otherwise cuz of all that digestive issue stuff)
sometimes i mix some no sugar added carnation instant breakfast with milk..... sometimes i mix some whey protien (without sugar in it)whey is milk based but there are other protien mixes.
I eat brown rice instead of white. Brown is lower in carbs. they make brown rice noodles and corn noodles (i think the brown rice ones are very good) ..
they also make brown rice hot cereal. I know even vitacost sells the noodles. Vitacost also sells brown rice yeast free bread although i have never tried that.
I would say almond milk if you cant do dairy but you said you have a nut issue ...so i assume you cant do that.
Maybe you could get a nutritionist to see what food combos will give you enough nutrition while avoiding causing you more problems.
I hope you find a way to figure it all out. I know it is difficult.
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I've had that feeling of things being stuck up high in the GI system, and the constipation, and can tell you it was just part of the allergy reactions.
If you are really strict with a diet, I'll bet it will go away.
Avoiding allergens is more of a priority than the anti-yeast diet, I would say.
I cannot eat gluten, dairy, corn, soy, citrus, nuts, eggs, or avocado. I am used to it now.
My strategy is to have one food I can eat to fill up. I eat a lot of rice cereal, brown w/cinnamon or white w/salt, nice and hot, with cold applesauce on top. I used to eat the hot cereal with frozen blueberries, but ate that too much, and started reacting to berries.
Which reminds me, you need to rotate foods every few days so you don't eat them too much in a row, or you will develop new allergies. This happens to me all the time. Then, if I wait a month or more, I can sometimes resume the food later.
Any way, I can eat all meats, poultry and fish except salmon, and I also started reacting to crab and shrimp. I eat most veggies except tomatoes and corn. I eat fruits, and you should too. I can't eat citrus, and sometimes I react to things with pits or seeds, if I eat them too much.
Typically I will eat rice cereal w/applesauce and an apple or melon for breakfast. I will have meat or fish or chicken for lunch, with rice and veggie. Dinner varies, and may be a little ham w/salad and, I hate to say it, more rice cereal!
The thing is, a lot of my Lyme symptoms went away when I started eating like this (after an elimination diet/challenge period). It may be that the antibiotics caused this, but there is nothing I can do about it now. So I just accept it!
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There are still many good foods. But, I know, at the beginning of all this I felt the same way. I avoid most of what is on your list, too. And I am so much better for it.
As for vegetables - there are dozens that most of us never hear about. So, explore that.
Some other (gluten-free) grains: quinoa, millet, amaranth, buckwheat (really a legume), wild rice (really a grass), and dozens of varieties of brown and black rices. Get a good variety.
Seasonings with fresh herbs (or even dried) and adding olive oil or coconut oil can really bring a dish up a few notches.
Find books on Mediterranean Diet.
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Information about Quinoa (keen-wa) - it can be great for any meal of the day. It has an excellent protein/amino acid content.
You have to rinse regular quinoa before cooking or it will be very bitter. A VERY fine meshed strainer is required, otherwise the tiny stuff will go right through to the sink.
The Red Quinoa requires no rinsing, so is easier and always comes out perfectly. Great to add to soups, too, toward the end of cooking - no additional pan needed that way.
From The New York Times November 3, 2008 Photos at link
QUINOA: A Protein-Packed Alternative to Grains -- By MARTHA ROSE SHULMAN
Quinoa (pronounced KEEN-wah) is a relative newcomer to the American pantry. The tiny, ancient Peruvian seed, which has a mild, nutty flavor, is related to leafy green vegetables and is often used like a grain.
Quinoa is as versatile as rice but it has a protein content that is superior to that of most grains, because it contains all the essential amino acids. In particular, quinoa is high in lysine, an amino acid important for tissue growth and repair.
It's also a good source of manganese, magnesium, phosphorus and copper, and it has a high iron content.
Quinoa is very easy to cook. It's important to rinse the seeds well, because they are naturally coated with a bitter substance that protects them against birds and other predators. Most packaged quinoa has already been cleaned, but it doesn't hurt to soak and rinse it just in case.
Quinoa cooks in 15 minutes, and it's easy to tell when it's done because the seeds display a little white thread that curls around them.
Basic Steamed Quinoa
Many recipes for quinoa suggest cooking it like rice, in two parts water for one part quinoa. This works, but I find the grains are fluffier if I cook them in three parts water and drain the excess water once the quinoa is tender.
The tiny seeds swell to about four times their original size, so 1 cup uncooked quinoa yields about 4 cups, enough for 6 to 8 servings.
1 cup quinoa [Regular, white needs rinsing. Red will not but read to be sure.]
3 cups water, chicken stock or vegetable stock 1/2 teaspoon salt (more to taste)
1. [If white Quinoa] Place the quinoa in a bowl and cover with cold water. Let sit 5 minutes. Drain through a [VERY, VERY fine mesh] strainer and rinse until the water runs clear.
2. Bring the water or stock to a boil in a medium saucepan. Add the salt and the quinoa. Bring back to a boil, reduce the heat to low, cover and simmer 15 minutes, or until the quinoa is tender and translucent, and each grain displays a little thread.
Drain and return to the pan. Cover the pan with a clean dish towel, replace the lid and allow to sit undisturbed for 10 minutes. Fluff and serve.
Yield: about 4 cups, serving 6 to 8
Advance preparation: Cooked quinoa will keep for three or four days in the refrigerator and can be reheated in a microwave or in the oven.
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tickled1
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Wow, thanks so much everyone for all the great advice!!! This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Thanks for dumbing it down for me (I needed that!).
I have to admit that I am a real idiot b/c I totally forgot that I received a diagnosis of delayed gastric emptying and hiatal hernia awhile back but hadn't had any symptoms in awhile until just recently. I'm sure that's part of my problem now. A bunch of other symptoms have crept back up on me lately too.(i'm worried-thought was making real progress)
Does anyone know if there are any natural alternatives to Reglan to speed up the movement of things through the digestive tract so I don't feel so backed up all the time?
I am definitely going to try eliminating a bunch of stuff from my diet as well and all the recommendations I got here will make it much easier.
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tickled1
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I found this online..."Diet for Gastroparesis"
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sorry, whats a nightshade?
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tickled1
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If you open the "nightshades" link above it explains what they are.
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Shosty
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There was some uproar over Reglen (spelling?) a few years back, with some awful side effect, and our GI MD stopped recommending it. The slowing down of digestion might first be addressed w/diet, and adding prunes is a good idea, or senneka, which is natural.
Avocados are wonderful for a spread, so wonderful that I ate it too often and developed an allergy- a "real " allergy detected by blood test, that could result in anaphylaxis. But enjoy it every few days, and you will be fine. Ditto with prunes, and watch out for coconut too.
I forgot to mention that Gastrocrom, a natural anti-inflammatory liquid that comes with mainstream Rx, is good for food allergy gastritis etc. It comes in clear ampules, which you mix in water. Same stuff that is used to calm the airways in asthma. I think of it as healing a sunburn inside. Good stuff. Made from an Egyptian plant, and the med is called cromolyn.
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tickled1
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Thanks Shosty for that info!
This is such a pain! A lot of the things recommended in the gastroparesis diet aren't recommended for a gluten free or candida diet.
I'm thinking I'll start by eliminating nightshades and dairy and just taking it easy with sugar. If I'm still bothered I'll be more strict with the gluten.
I'll probably try to get a much better probiotic as well like VSL #3 and/or Therelac.
Here's a question...Rice is ok on both the gastroparesis diet and gluten-free diet but I am highly allergic to grass and since rice is in the grass family, could I be sensitive to that?
Another reason I ask this is b/c lately I've been trying to eat rice instead of pasta and potatoes when trying to eat gluten free and I haven't been well lately. I should probably try to eat brown rice rather than white rice too b/c of candida. Ugh!!! It's hard to sort it all out!
Maybe I should do another round of difucan. Anyone know if that's ok w/amoxicillan?
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tickled1
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massman,
I checked out the website for "NAET" and couldn't figure out exactly what the techniques are and what is involved. Would you mind explaining it a little?
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tickled1
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So this morning I had gluten free cereal (made from corn flour/corn starch) with rice milk with no problems and then lunch was turkey on a white roll w/mustard and no problem.
Later I had a snack of a couple of sun chips and doritoes and dark chocolate and almost instantly gave me pain up my back and a headache and a toxic feeling. definitely reacted to one of those things. Any ideas? Does anyone else get these symptoms when reacting to something?
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If you are a celiac you have to avoid gluten COMPLETELY in order to benefit from the diet. There's no such thing as "a little gluten."
I'm on Reglan and it has really helped my acid reflux. I probably have gastroperesis.
I don't know about rice. I avoid it due to yeast. Brown rice might be OK in moderation... I don't know about "grasses."
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Shosty
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You are not going to be able to figure out anything with this hit or miss method. Minimizing allergic exposure is not going to work either, you need to eliminate entirely.
Also, there are sometimes time lags between ingestion and reaction, so if you eat, say, corn on Wed. and then get sick the next day, seemingly after chocolate, you really can't assume it was the chocolate.
I have similar reactions immediately, so you can probably sometimes draw that conclusion, but not always.
Honestly, if you can't eat rice, things will be very hard. We eat rice bread, rice tortillas, rice pasta. I used to eat all brown rice, but I have switched to white a lot, because it is a treat in my pathetic diet, and my yeast has been okay.
I personally have seen gastroparesis a little overdiagnosed, or prematurely diagnosed. They thought my daughter had it, but it turned out to be inflammation from allergies, that made her GI tract sluggish. But, that doesn't meant that the poster here doesn't have it!
Anyway, you are eating things that are very potentially allergenic. Corn sounds okay, but you should try eliminating it. Chocolate has all kinds of allergic potential: it was my first food allergy! Doritos etc. are cooked in various oils that can be a problem.
Every time you have a reaction, it just makes you start from scratch, w/renewed inflammation and immune activity. You really need to put some time together without any reactions at all!
Finally, right now, you are probably NOT reacting to everything you will later figure out you cannot tolerate. As I have said, I was eating lots of bread and cheese and thought I was fine. No reactions, but I was living with near continual burning and tingling, which was diagnosed as Lyme.
When I did the elimination diet, very strictly, and then tried to eat bread, then tried to eat cheese, I was hugely reactive, esp. to the cheese. Even touching it made my skin burn.
To balance out this new misfortune, and the impossibility of eating ice cream, I was happy to find that the burning and tingling had gone!
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laura NAET is used on allergies and sensitivities that are based in the nervous system.
Only about one out of four allergies respond to drug treatment. So where are the other allergies ?
Often in the nervous system. The doc that developed NAET developed a technique to deal with these. In most cases your body identifies something as dangerous when it really is not.
NAET lets your body sort of "re-identify" things as not dangerous so the body does not react. It works, IME, about eighty percent of the time.
Sounds a bit weird, but it has helped many. Hope this helps.
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tickled1
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Guess I really do need to buckle down. So to start I guess all I will be able to eat is meat and veggies (not nightshades or corn) and........is that it? B/c if I am allergic to rice (seem to not be tolerating it well-maybe just to constipating, as well as bananas) then that's about it.
Seriously, I'm drawing a blank as to what else I'd be able to eat since most gluten free foods are derived from rice. I keep falling off the wagon b/c all I can think of that would be ok is meat and veggies. I'm thinking I should probably even leave eggs out for now.
Then there's the rice milk. Not sure if I can have that either and I'm having nut issues so almond milk is out too which is ok b/c I hate it. I know some say rice milk has too much sugar but dairy is out and I hate almond milk so what else is there?
massman,
I understand the reasoning behind "NAET" but I would like to know what the actual procedure is that is performed. Is it chiropractic in nature, like manipulations?
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massman
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Laura - no it is not manipulation.
Acupressure, acupuncture and using a small "activator" to stimulate the areas just to the side of the spine can be used.
The gate points on the hands, elbows, ankles and feet can also be stimulated as above.
I have never had acupuncture for it, but have had the others. No crunch crack push bang at all.
It is a pressure that is not strong given to the points for a short amount of time each.
About 2 to 3 seconds on each point by the spine and about 5 to 7 seconds on each gate point on the extremities.
Figuring out which things to treat first and the sequence to treat them is seems to be tougher then the actual treatment itself.
If you find a practitioner ask to watch someone else get treated so you can see it. If they say that the law will not let them do that the patient can sign a release to let you watch.
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Shosty
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Here are some gluten-free flours and grains, that include many grains as alternatives to rice. There are a lot of them.
Yes, eggs should be eliminated for the elimination period. I keep leaving them out!
You also have to read labels for things like maltodexrin, lactose, etc. There are books available, and any sites for celiac or dairy allergies have a lot of info on what to watch out for.
Even most meds and vitamins are a problem. I get mine compounded!
For this to really work, you need to really avoid even any trace of the potential allergens.
Not being able to have rice makes this very hard. I can't have corn, but I think your situation is harder. Potatoes and sweet potatoes help. Slice them and bake w/ a light coating of olive oil, and they brown.
I have been baking with non-allergenic ingredients. The results are good, if different! I am not one of those people who love to cook, so if I can do it, anyone can. Use xantham gun to give the baked goods a nice texture. It took me awhile to find it. For you, garbanzo bean flour, buckwheat flour and some others could help for the elimination diet. My daughter uses a fine corn flour too. Mix with a little olive oil, vanilla, applesauce, canned pumpkin, or sweet potato instead of milk.
A health food/med store can give you a lot of advice and support. We needed an MD and nutritionist to help at first. You might be asking a lot of yourself to do this all on your own, but it is possible.
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massman
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Interesting replies here.
NAET can and does get rid of about eighty percent of all allergies.
Laura is interested and no one else is ?
Isn't it great work to avoid many types of foods ?
Or does NAET sound too good to be true ?
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