Topic: Salt / C Therapy Resources - Help how to start. Get basic information HERE
WeRAll1
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There seems to be a wave of interest in the Salt C Protocol
Please read all the sites and newbie info and links before you start as there is a way to start and a method to use to start at a low dose and work up and how.
Those can give some ideas for starting out at the very least.
I am sure there are some past posts here as well you can search for that might have some good information for you.
If the links do not work you may have to sign up and log in.
Hope this helps
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Some choose to mix 1/2 of each of Salt and Vitamin C as powder form into water and drink.
Some choose to buy capsules of Salt and Capsules of C and swallow dosage.
I gram if using powdered converts to close to apprx 5 grams in a teaspoon.
Dosing is done in grams usually. Typical start is 1 gram of each or less split up in 2 to 4 doses a day. And slowly is increased to a top level of about 1.5 grams for every 20 lbs you weight
These are general and I suggest you read the resources..
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glm1111
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We....Thanks for posting all this great info. I have been on this protocol for 2 1/2 yrs.
I started with 1/4 tsp SEA SALT and 1/4 tsp VIT C powder per/day
1tsp = 5 gms or 5,000 mg. I ramped up slowly...1/4 tsp at a time DRINK LOTS OF WATER
This protocol has saved my life.( Not for people with pre-existing conditions such as diabetes.)
It is well tolerated when done properly. We humans are 75% saline close to sea salt composition.
Not meant to be medical advice, just what worked for me.
Hope this helps some,
Gael
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PumaOfTheWest
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WeRAll1 how long have you been doing the Salt C protocol and have you had any successes doing it?
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WeRAll1
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Hello
I read somewhere someone asking for a full article of a paragraph I posted on another thread. I can not find the thread..
Mycoplasma can be treated with a product called Reckits Regulat. Intestinal worms are present in a vast majority of Lyme patients and these can be very difficult to diagnose. The worms are missed a lot of the time on standard parasitology testing. I like to use a lab called DiagnosTechs because they measure antibodies to the worms in the saliva. There are very strong medications for this condition but a very famous Lyme doctor by the name of Klinghardt uses high doses of salt very successfully. The salt is taken from a quarter to a half teaspoon 4 times a day along with vitamin C. This is done for one month and then taking a week or two off and repeating this program for two or three cycles. This will kill most worms. This treatment also has independent anti Lyme activity by stimulating elastase enzymes which are used by specific white blood cells to help kill off the Lyme. However, about 5% of the population cannot tolerate this program because it would raise their blood pressure too high.
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PumaOfTheWest
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WeRAll1 how long have you been doing the Salt C protocol and have you had any successes doing it?
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WeRAll1
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Hi Puma Sorry > I missed your question.
I am doing the Salt C protocol and am in my second month of it only. I have seen some great improvements in certain areas and symptoms. I as well have had some similiar sightings to some of the people who have put up pictures and talked about it in the toilet and through the nose during the first month. During this second month things have calmed down and I was told there are plateaus in the treatment.
I have not stopped my ABX though and continue other things I was taking and have not had any issue in doing so.
i would recommend everyone do the protocol... and at the very least in how Dr. K does it for a few weeks at a time in bursts to at least erradicate those parasites.
I plan on doing that and then.. I will evaluate how i feel and if I feel a benefit or the wanting to go long term like many do.
I hear of great success too in some doing it for years.. but as well you can do a maintenance dose at that time to make sure you do not let things come back.. or you can keep going at high doeses in hope you penetrate deeper
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Yes I am thinking about trying it certainly and plan to discuss it with my LLMD at my next appointment. Everything you Gary and Gael have posted about it makes want to try it. I will need to get a good camera first because I want to post my results.
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bettyg
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Welcome; i'm so glad you found us!! You've come to the right place for education and support!
Dr. Burrascano's most recent "Diagnostic Hints and 2008 Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses" @
DebAZ's 12.08 comparison of 05 to 08 new guidelines:
Differences in newest Guidelines compared to 2005 Guidelines
Page 25 26 and 27 Added section "Sorting out the co infections"
Page 28 New info given to get supplements from additional places
In all areas of Supplements there has been various changes and additions to each description and i advice people to re read the full supplement section as well the following additions to the whole supplement section:
Basic Daily Regimin NT Factor Added
Alternative Treatments CITICHOLINE Added
Immune Support Transfor factor Added
For Fatigue Took out "For Fatiuge" section
Other Optional Vitamin D Added
Page 31 "Lyme Disease Rehabilitaion" is rewitten and added to
He mentions Flexcreme (Flex Cream) by Pharmanex as great for body pain
. suggests that you discuss with your doctor continuing treatment until you are symptom free for 2 months.
please see BettyG's newbie package info on the link below; click on link at bottom of my package. Check it out as time permits for you! @ http://tinyurl.com/58eyou
sorry, link takes you to END vs. beginning, so just use UP ARROW and go to the TOP for detailed info! thanks!
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Also, please be very specific in the subject line what you will be discussing so more people will be able to assist you.
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please go to my newbie links, copy the entire thing, and then print this off....
financial burdens compiled by melanie reber pages 74 - 92; outstanding info there.
also in my table of contents, for FINANCIAL BURDENS, i believe there are a few more general comments there without links!! print that off too as it's newer info from members thru their own personal, tragic experiences. thoughts and prayers headed your way..
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PumaOfTheWest
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Thank you Betty for the warm welcome. Have you been doing the salt C protocol too?
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cactus
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WeRall1, I am having some trouble finding information in your links above.
I would like to ask my LLMD about this protocol but need to take complete information, in order to discuss it.
I cannot find any names associated with the site, only "we" statements.
Yet there is an e-book requiring payment ($29.95), so clearly there is an individual or individuals receiving payment.
Can you clarify this for me? Is there a "contact us" section that I am missing?
And can you point me in the direction of a name, perhaps the author of the e-book, so I can better present this to my LLMD?
Thanks.
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Keebler
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Note: this is not to be confused with the practice of increased sodium intake for patients with various kinds of low blood pressure (POTS, NMH, etc.) That is something quite different.
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PREPARATION to consider for the Salt / Vitamin C Protocol - the First Step:
As with preparation for any protocol, you'd want to read from a variety of sources and get the author's original and updated literature.
You'd also want to read from various authors and researchers, as well. Be very careful about following dosage amount from a post as each person can be different, typos do occur, etc., so you'd want to be sure to double check with the official author's statement to make sure dosage suggestions match up.
It's also a good idea to take a look at the sites of the American Kidney Foundation and the American Heart Association for the safety levels of sodium. In general, learning more about how the kidneys and heart works is helpful, too.
It's good to learn more about sea salt, too. If you decide not to do the salt/vit C protocol, avoiding normal table salt and using sea salt for daily use is a good idea, within a range suggested by your doctor for your body.
Before beginning this - or any protocol, really: share your intentions with your doctor.
Have your doctor run labs on your kidney function and electrolytes - and also check your blood pressure and heart rhythm. Excess salt can be dangerous for someone with decreased kidney function or certain heart conditions. And, yes, it can be fatal, under certain circumstances.
If you are diabetic, this protocol is not advised, so be sure to have glucose testing first, as some people are not aware if they have diabetes.
It is also important to let your doctor know if you have any edema (puffiness or swelling of face, hands, feet, etc.). Edema can be sign that the kidneys or heart are stressed regarding circulation or elimination.
Here is one good article to consider as part of preparation/study:
12. IF a person has ANY reason to suspect that they have heart or kidney weaknesses, or that they may have the ACE mutation (most people with CFS may have this), or if they know that they have any other the risk factors, they should not be on salt/c without careful monitoring of their progress, and if possible medical supervision.
- Full post at link above.
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In the scope of prevention and preparation, a search on Hypernatremia is also a good idea so you'll know how to be prepared for subtle signs that may be important clues.
Excerpt: " . . . Clinical manifestations of hypernatremia can be subtle, consisting of lethargy, weakness, irritability, and edema. With more severe elevations of the sodium level, seizures and coma may occur. . . ."
" . . . The cornerstone of treatment is administration of free water to correct the relative water deficit. Water can be replaced orally or intravenously. However, overly rapid correction of hypernatremia is potentially very dangerous.
The body (in particular the brain) adapts to the higher sodium concentration.
Rapidly lowering the sodium concentration with free water, once this adaptation has occurred, causes water to flow into brain cells and causes them to swell. This can lead to cerebral edema, potentially resulting in seizures, permanent brain damage, or death.
Therefore, significant hypernatremia should be treated carefully by a physician or other medical professional with experience in treatment of electrolyte imbalances. . . ."
seekhelp
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Either I'm going crazy or salt is LOWERING my BP. I'm up to 1/2 tsp of salt/C daily (split in 1/4 tsp doses). My BP was constantly 140+/80+. I've head readings as high as 155/95. I'm on 3 meds to control hypertension.
My BP AFTER taking salt is reading 115/75 and at highest 132/81. Seems crazy, huh? I'm using the same monitor and have been for years at home. Believe?
I'm in no way a salt/C advocate as you all know. I am taking sea salt at the advice of my holistic doc.
I should note no worms are spitting out of my nose, out of my behind, or poking through my skull (yet).
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Keebler
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Those 3 meds you're on to lower your blood pressure are probably part of result. The drugs are keeping it in check, it seems.
For many with high blood pressure, increased sodium alone, usually increases BP. But there can also be differences in regular table salt and sea salt. In the right amount, considering personal differences, Sea Salt can have many benefits.
seekhelp
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You may be right, but I've been on the same three hypertension meds for 5+ years with not enough success. I don't consider a 150/90 reading acceptable. My docs are too ignorant to change meds. They seem to have their heads up their #####.
if I got off the meds and took more salt, maybe it's a recipe for disaster. Maybe taking it up another 1/2 tsp would be even under current circumstances. Even then, BP readings may not correlate with stress on kidneys. That's what concerns me. As you say, being clinically monitored is important when taking on risk. Those saying it's not risky are misleading people.
There are a fair amount of holistic docs pushing sea salt though. I am sure they've done some research to arrive at that opinion.
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