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Pinelady
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Well you can bet your boots they weren't tested by Igenex.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/122564349/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

I expect to see lots more of these erroneous

reports since the IDSA inquest. They got lots of

big money behind them. We got a lot of sick

people behind us. Do you think it will come down

to the ones that can make the most noise? Thank

You as always Rick at Lymeinfo@Yahoogroups.

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unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
IgM neg pos
31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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wtl
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Hi Pinelady,

Good to see you.

For some reason I couldn't open the link. But this topic has a profound interest for me.

My wife was thought by several neurologists to have ALS, though they tested her with EMG on her leg and "ruled" it out. And then her first llmd also "tested" her for ALS through some kind of blood work and also "ruled it out".

I am still confused why Lyme can be misdiagnosed to be ALS. I thought one tool to diagnose ALS is EMG muscle sensation test. Although nothing can be a bullet proof test but I heard from neurologists that EMG for ALS is relatively reliable - meaning that most ALS patients will fail the test. Do many Lyme patients also fail EMG test?

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Pinelady
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Sorry wtl it works for me. It says 414 patients at

Mass. General Hosp were tested for Lyme disease.


24 were seropositive and only 4 had confirmed past

immunoreactive infection. Two of these patients

received ceftriaxone for (1 month) without

clinical improvement. Lyme disease was rare in

414 patients with ALS and is not likely to be

causative. Muscle Nerve, 2009

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Suspected Lyme 07 Test neg One band migrating in IgG region
unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
IgM neg pos
31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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Pinelady
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One month would not have put a dent in me either! So sad this even got published.

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unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
IgM neg pos
31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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coltman
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"Seropositive" =CDC criteria? which has what? 80% -90% miss rate?

And they take people whose symptoms are sick enough to be ALS diagnosed , and run 1 month of monotherapy. They not looking and not researching, they fabricating stuff to fit their pre-existing
conviction

I mean seriously imagine what would happen to current medical establishment if it turns out that MS, ALS and parkinsons were caused by known infection. And the mainstream organisations were ignoring research and mistreating millions of patients?
-No one will allow that to happen

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emla999/Lyme
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Borrelia burgdorferi is capable of producing a neurotoxic steryl glycoside compound.

And recently, there has been quite a bit of research that points to steryl glycosides as playing a role in the development of ALS and other neurodegenerative diseases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17149752

http://www.als.net/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=317737

So, in my opinion chronic Lyme Disease could lead to the development of ALS.

**Borrelia burgdorferi, isn't the only thing that produces steryl glycosides though.


http://tinyurl.com/nu27c9

http://tinyurl.com/lsj3zq

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