oxygenbabe
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So let's say you decide to do nosodes/photons, or homeopathy (classical), herbs, or some combo of the above--or Allergie Immune as per Gigi.
Do you folks think one can do the above without cleaning up your lifestyle?
If you were a chain smoker, or pre-diabetic and ate candy, or drank too much alcohol--and continued these bad habits, could you possibly get well using the above methods?
Do you have to clean up your lifestyle and diet, get rest, good food, small amounts of "wine" or healthy alcohol, no smoking cigarettes, no candy bars and junk food....do you all think this is important? How important?
Is it a contradiction in terms to do energy medicine, and yet ignore the body in terms of lifestyle choices?
What kind of lifestyle and diet do you all follow?
I ask because I personally think its very important. I don't know that these energy methods could counteract the burden of a poor, junk-food diet, or smoking cigarettes, or even too much alcohol.
Someone on another list said they had gotten well in spite of eating a cheap junk food diet and lots of sugar.
Are they really well?
Don't we, if interested in these approaches, have to really look at our lives and clean them up?
Thoughts?
I find this important as I try hard to eat organic, and to get meat and dairy and eggs from Amish farmers who are even better than organic...I try to get sunlight, to take walks, to get rest.
As above, so below, right?
Shouldn't there be consistency and harmony in our approach?
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Disease typically begins with what you put on your plate !
And great for getting food from the Amish. I have done health work with a good number of them and really admired them for paying attention to what is really important.
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I don't think that this is tied to any approach. If you are on antibiotics, you should cleanup your lifestyle. If you are on herbs, you should cleanup your lifestyle.
I agree 100% with OB that we have to cleanup or diets, etc. but do not believe that this is specific to energetic medicine. It is the case of all treatment options in my opinion.
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oxygenbabe
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That's true, Scott.
I ask because I know some folks who advocate energy medicine--homeopathy, energy medicine--yet they have a very poor lifestyle, eat Subway sandwiches, candy bars, smoke, whatever. I suppose one could argue that the correct constitutional remedy could "correct" these cravings, but it seems to me that the energy medicine would not be as able to correct imbalances with such a lifestyle. It seems healing must take place on many levels.
Mass Man--I can't eat ordinary chicken anymore! Even organic is actually given relatively low quality feed and then plumped up in sodium phosphate solutions to process. The chicken from Amish farmers--they are allowed to run around in open coops that are moved daily, they are really healthy--and freshly slaughtered in warmer months, the day before they deliver--or else frozen. Their dairy is fabulous--a little too fabulous (I drank a quart of Piima cultured milk yesterday....uggg...lol). I admire them for their simple lifestyle, too, and their good values.
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I believe lifestyle changes are crucial as well as mind set.. This is very true for me anyway. Until I changed my Mindset, diet, and habits I was compeletly bedridden and unable to function.
Once I stopped seeing myself as a victim and took control over my own body did I even notice one bit of improvement. Now I believe, like Scott that this goes for ANY treatment you are on... To me, it all starts with your thoughts and feelings, your outlook, determination, diet, rest, etc..
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Ocean
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My previous LLMD has it in his patient contract that you must either Quit smoking, or be in a smoking cessation program or he will fire you as patient.
I love that, I think it's very intelligent and makes the patient take responsibilty for their own health (which many people don't).
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I must have mis-read.. lol.. I seem to be doing that a LOT lately.. damn brain!
Maybe not for energy medicine because it works at a deeper level... But I believe lifestyle change is important in general.
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Someone gave me a good analogy the other day:
Think of it like being on a swing. The stronger you push, the higher it will go and the stronger the downward impact. When the axis is no longer ideal, you may fall off or go sideways toward illness.
Balance is the key. Much of the s world smoked until we became hysterical about it. The whole world drinks a Cola now and then. The whole world eats white flour now and then. I eat sugar every day. The whole world is exposed to thousands of toxins every day. Few live the organic life or want to hand over their hard earned funds at Wholefoods.
The whole world is not ill.
Balance is, I think, the key. Thoughts first, biochemistry after that.
Take care.
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oxygenbabe
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Well, actually, the world is ill and getting ill-er . Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, allergies, they are epidemic. Even children have more and more allergies and asthma than ever before. Part of the reason is the many chemicals and our poor food supply...I put food first before entertainment. I have the cheapest cable t.v. and we spend time at home rather than go out to restaurants...so we can eat as healthy as possible.
But it was just a question about how those who use energy medicine live their lives--in harmony with the concept? Or do they continue unhealthy habits, and if so, have any thoughts about that?
I lurk on a yahoo group of homeopaths, and one just posted about psoriasis. Another homeopath answered that they'd been successfully treating a patient but for two years, the progress was very slow, still has plaques but no longer itch--because they won't give up their alcoholic drinks at night...
So I think that kind of answers my question. The energy medicine will have to work against a poor lifestyle--smoking, drinking, or eating poorly.
Thanks for everybody's thoughts so far.
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