2roads
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How much Magnesiun chloride should a 50 lb person take and does it interfere with taking other meds or have physical negative impact?
Can you see filarial worms? if so what do they look like and how do you treat those?
Thanks All & Marnie.
Just going through things in a daze and throwing out remaining questions as a result-
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glm1111
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2roads,
Here is a website that shows the worms. Burgdorfer found filarial worms in the ticks.
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2roads
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Okay...so 50 lb person means 1 teaspoon salt per day and how much Vit C?
Can't we just take the magnesium chloride instead with vit c?
I thought Mag chloride was a salt?
Maybe I'm out in left field again
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Marnie
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NaCl kills MANY pathogens.
But Bb looks to use Na for quorum sensing = "communication".
Really compounding the problem.
We are microbe hotels! Not all of them are bad guys!
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2roads
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So your saying salt is good for parasites, but not the lyme bacteria?
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So what Marnie is saying is that the spirochetes check in but they do not check out
Yes, we're hacking away with a double-edged machete.
Marnie, do you have any recommendations as far as the Mag Chloride supps?
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I second Lymeorsomething's question.....I found a site that sells transdermal oils, Mag Chloride bath salts, etc.
Nutricology also makes Magnesium Chloride in an affordible liquid supplement.
Should we go for oral or transdermal (through the skin)?
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Clarification:
Sodium Chloride is Salt, often used in a Salt C protocol to get rid of parasites.
Magnesium Chloride is something else, often used in IV drip to help with detoxification.
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2roads
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Somehow I thought Mag chloride was epsom salt...my bad.
Thanks Bejoy
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glm1111
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2roads,
I take it that this 50lb person is a child? 1 tsp of salt(SEA SALT) is way too much to start with. NEVER TABLE SALT!!
The protocol if you decide to do it has to be done slowly in a ramped up fashion with equal amounts of vit c.
The people on lymestrategies are the people doing this protocol. It would be good to check it out.
Marnie,
Where does this info that Bb uses na for communication come from? Even if that is true, it doesn't prevent the salt from killing it just like the other microbes.
Sea Salt is a broad spectrum antibiotic and that being the case it also attacks the Bb, bart and babs as I am experiencing.
Gael
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2roads
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Okay, Magnesium sulphate is epsom salt, not mag chloride.
When I think of Epsom salt, I think of salt water.....just do.
Sorry, there's so many alternatives going around my brain is fried.
I just want to know what could work naturally for parasites, and what could work naturally to increase the effectiveness of the lyme therapy.
I will not try to combine again...too confusing
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glm1111
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SEA SALT Salt/C works naturally to kill parasites as in the lymephotos site.
There are other antiparasitics as well, but they don't always kill the adults. You can also check out www.humaworm.com
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2roads
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Thanks Gael,
I will not do anything until I understand more clearly..then again I may do nothing at all but stick with antibiotics.
Just trying to put in "little people terms" to examine the options.
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glm1111
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2roads..
.Humaworm has childrens doses. Antibiotics alone will not kill parasites. Sorry you have a little one that's sick,
Gael
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2roads
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I know they won't, but the last time I tried parasite cleansing for him we were on Mugwort, Black walnut, Csgara Sarada, Some seed oil...and I read this stuff wasn't real age appropriate or good for him later.
He drinks alot of Vit C in his juices, and somehow sea salt and Vit c sounded like a better option then all these parasite tonics which actually did nothing for him.
I don't know how these parasite cleanses touch Babs....but I suspect that could be his problem.
Tahnks for your help and putting up with my fogged over brain
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Marnie
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2 roads...got that right!
Here's some information if you think you can be "sterile" and get rid of all the micro-organisms in us:
"The human body contains 20 times more microbes than it does cells and in each cell there are about 10 microbes. Approximately 99% of the viruses and bacteria inhabiting our body are yet to be identified. Some of our colonists, - viruses in the cells of our brain - influence even our thoughts and feelings. This book illustrates how microbes and human life go hand in hand. "
"Before taking magnesium chloride, talk to your doctor if you are taking
a tetracycline antibiotic such as tetracycline (Sumycin, Achromycin V, and others), demeclocycline (Declomycin), doxycycline (Vibramycin, Monodox, Doxy, and others), minocycline (Minocin, Dynacin, and others), or oxytetracycline (Terramycin, and others);
a fluoroquinolone antibiotic such as ciprofloxacin (Cipro), ofloxacin (Floxin), enoxacin (Penetrex), norfloxacin (Noroxin), sparfloxacin (Zagam), levofloxacin (Levaquin), lomefloxacin (Maxaquin), grepafloxacin (Raxar), and others;
penicillamine (Cuprimine);
digoxin (Lanoxin, Lanoxicaps); or
nitrofurantoin (Macrodantin, Furadantin, others).
You may not be able to take magnesium chloride, or you may require a dosage adjustment or special monitoring during your treatment if you are taking any of the medicines listed above.
Drugs other than those listed here can also interact with magnesium chloride. Talk to your doctor and pharmacist before taking any over-the-counter or prescription medicines."
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