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Nobody
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Hello again.

I have an upcoming MRI and I see that sometimes the contrast dye (not iodine-based, its gadopentetate dimeglumine). I've never had this before.

Read some not-so-nice stories about how it can, in rare cases, mess up your kidneys, and I am a bit worried.

Is there anything I can take before the MRI to help protect my kidneys and flush the contrast out of my body as quickly as possible?

Much thanks
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Do you have a ND (naturopathic doctor) in your area whom you could call for advice on this?

If not, you might Google "Bastyr University" in Seattle and ask to talk to someone there just about this question.

They might put you in touch with an instructor who would be happy to talk to you for a minute or two or offer a link.


You might also search for what (holistic doctor) Andrew Weil, MD would say. He's got his own site, I think.


You can also contact the author of this book:

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/

You may be able to talk with him just for this one question and if there is a charge, it will be very reasonable. I've had many great discussions with him. He's a good teacher.


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BTW, I have read that patients who take high doses of allicin do not need the contrast dye as the allicin helps in that regard.

Sorry, I do not have a source for that and I have no idea how to hunt that down as it's from one of my books and my organization skills flew out the window long ago.


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my sister, the radiologist, says drink a ton of water afterwards to flush the kidneys.

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If there is away to first protect kidneys rather than just hoping the water will flush it all out, that would be best.

Or - if there is something else that may work as well . . . Or - you can ask for "No Contrast" and hope the MRI sees what it needs to without it.


I've not had great luck finding an answer (I've wondered, too) but here is just one article to consider:

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Excerpts from full article below:


" . . . More than 95 percent of NSF cases are known to have occurred within three months of a patient being exposed to dyes made with a magnetic ion called gadolinium. . . ."


" . . . In May, the FDA asked for a black box warning on all gadolinium-based products, warning that a single exposure may be enough to cause NSF in kidney patients. . . ."


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http://www.naturalnews.com/023332.html

Friday, May 30, 2008


MRI Dyes Poisoning Patients, Turning Skin into "Marble" --by David Gutierrez, staff writer


(NaturalNews)


In some patients with kidney problems, a common dye used in magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) tests may lead to an incurable and potentially fatal disease that causes skin to turn hard and immobile.


Nephrogenic systemic fibrosis (NSF) is a poorly understood medical condition in which collagen builds up in the skin and makes it hard and immobile, making it come to resemble marble.


NSF can also cause collagen to build up in the heart, lungs and liver, with potentially fatal consequences.


More than 95 percent of NSF cases are known to have occurred within three months of a patient being exposed to dyes made with a magnetic ion called gadolinium.


Gadolinium dyes are used in MRIs because they bind to specific tissues, increasing the contrast and usefulness of the images.


In May, the FDA asked for a black box warning on all gadolinium-based products, warning that a single exposure may be enough to cause NSF in kidney patients.


The FDA advised kidney patients undergoing MRIs to request that their physicians not use contrasting dyes in the exam unless it is absolutely necessary.


A black box warning is the strongest warning the FDA can issue without banning a product. However, the FDA has approved no other dyes for use in multi-purpose MRIs; only two other dyes are approved for certain liver problems.


According to Shawn E. Cowper, a dermatologic pathologist at Yale University who first identified NSF, as many as one in 20 kidney patients could be at risk if exposed to gadolinium.


"I don't think there's been a day in the last, probably, two years that's gone by that I haven't cried at least once about this," said Sarah Fracella, who developed NSF after receiving an MRI.


Due to the hardening of her skin, Fracella has trouble sitting or walking, and is unable to open bottles.


"It's been the hardest thing I've ever had to deal with."


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Get some high quality mangosteen juice!!!

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I just had this done, and they told me to drink a lot of water over the next 24 hours to flush it out of my system.

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I always refused to get the dye. Even when they found lesions on my brain they dismissed them as being nothing.


I didn't want to add anything into my system that could possibly make things worse.

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I echo Gael's post, word for word.

I got no dye to be on the safe side.

"White matter" was dismissed. (I have no LLMD who could look at it, though.)

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So, unless you have a LLMD reading your MRI, you may not find it as helpful as you hope.

Also - I will never have an MRI again due to the noise. My ears were damaged from this, even with ear plugs. But, I'm sensitive to begin with.

Be sure to wear ear plugs (the strongest type) and be sure they are sealed totally the entire time. If the seal breaks, tell them to wait until you are ready for the next step.

The MRI has large magnets that will clunk around inside the machine. You will still get a lot of sound from vibration through the bones so if you know that in advance, you can practice relaxation breathing and think of the best song to sing to yourself while in there.


I suggest taking your adrenal support before - and after. Holy Basil may be best (but if you drive yourself, be sure whatever you do does not relax you too much).

Your adrenal support will really help with the effect of stress on your body from the sound. Although, I have known of some people to sleep right on through.

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More about adrenal support here:

This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:


http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)


THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com


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And Amazon has several books on "Adaptogens"


A packet of Emer-gen-C is also helpful for afterward (beforehand might be too stimulating for the bladder).


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