Topic: Homeopathic dilutions: question for Tracy Truthfinder
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Tracy or anyone, I have a few questions in my head for quite some time now. I'd like to know what does Tracy think about them (but if anyone has any other view, I'm all ears).
1- I'm doing D1 dilutions of many supplements, including Rechtsregulat (enzymes), or Magnesium supplements (I do a C1 dilution), or Chinese herbal tinctures for the liver (D1). Energetically, they test the same as taking the original substance.
The amount that tests is smaller though. I find they react something IN BETWEEN homeopathy and the real substance. I can ingest something after quite fast, without losing potency, while with normal homeopathic dilutions (higher than D3), I need to give a bit more time to get my body to 'understand' the homeopathic message.
The last dilution I did was from a capsule of magnesium + Vit E. As I said, they test the same as the capsule. I have constant cramps during lyme or candidal infections, and taking Magnesium supplements always stopped the cramps.
So I did the test, I am taking ONLY the homeopathic C1 dilution INSTEAD of real magnesium supplement. First day, I got a bit of a beginning of cramp. The I decided to take the drops 2times a day (while with capsules, I take only once a day and it is enough). Since then, no cramps anymore, so I see this is working like my capsule.
I wonder what's your opinion about such low dilutions D1, D2 or C1, for example. Is there anything in the literature?
I wonder how these REAL enzymes (from Rechtsregulat) do in a D1 dilution... as there's less of real enzymes there (I suppose) but more of 'energetic enzymes' there?
same as for the real magnesium and the energetic magnesium...?
Thanks for your insight!
-------------------- 2- What is your opinion on over the counter homeopathics that use many substances in one product?
For example, I'm taking this UBICHINON compositum from Heel, and am having such good results that I became addicted to it. My classical homeopathic medical doctor who is from Belgium, thinks mixes are nonsense, but in Germany, homeopathic mixes are all over.
Injection solution: 2.2 ml cont.: Ubichinonum D 10, Acidum ascorbicum D 6; Thiaminum hydrochloricum D 6, Natrium ribroflavinum phosphoricum D 6, Pyridoxinum hydrochloricum D 6; Nicotinamidum D 6, Vaccininum myrtillus D 4, Colchicum D 4, Podophyllum D 4, Conium D 4, Hydrastis D 4, Galium aparine D 6, Acidum sarcolacticum D 6, HydrochinonumD 8, Acidum alpha-liponicum D 8, Sulfur D 8, Manganum phosphoricum D 8, Natrium diethyloxalaceticum D 8, Trichinoylum D 10, Anthrachinonum D 10, Napthochinonum D 10, para-Benzochinonum D 10, Adenosinum triphosphoricum D 10, Coenzymum A D 10, Acidum acetylosalicylicum D 10, Histaminum D 10, Nadidum D 10, Magnesium gluconicum D 10 22 �l each.
Indications: Stimulation of toxin-defence functions for the purpose of restoring blocked enzymatic systems in cases of enzymatic dysfunctions and degenerative diseases (cellular phases).
Contraindications: Do not use during pregnancy or during nursing. Side effects: None known. Interactions with other medication: None known. Dosage: In general, 1-3 times weekly 1 ampoule i.m., s.c., i.d., or if necessary, i.v. Package sizes: Packs containing 5, 10, 50 and 100 ampoules of 2.2 ml.
Pharmacological and clinical notes - Acidum ascorbicum (Vitamin C) Co-factor for enzyme functions (redox systems)
-Thiaminum hydrochloricum (Vitamin B1) Co-factor for enzyme functions (oxydative decarboxylation)
-Natrium ribroflavinum phosphoricum (Vitamin B2) Co-factor for enzyme functions (flavoproteid and redox systems)
-Pyridoxinum hydrochloricum (Vitamin B6) Co-factor for enzyme functions (transaminases, dehydratases, desulphhydrases, decarboxylases. Nicotinamidum (nicotinamide) Co-factor for enzyme functions (dehydratases)
-CoIchicum (meadow saffron) Gastro-enteritis, muscular and articular rheumatism pericarditis, endocarditis, scarlanital nephritis; as adjuvant in neoplasm phases.
-Podophyllum (may-apple) Pancreopathy with spurting, painless diarrhoea; cholecystopathy, colitis, haemorrhoids, adjuvant in neoplasm phases, acticarcinomatous action.
-Conium (spotted hemlock) Glandular swellings, as in scrofulous and cancerous conditions; sclerosis and nodules hard as stone(!)
-Hydrastis (golden seal) Remedy for affections of the mucosa: thick, viscid, ropy, yellowish-white secretions from all mucous membranes; raises the tonicity in cachectic and marasmic conditions.
-Galium aparine (goosegrass) Precancerous conditions and neoplasm phases
-Acidum sarcolacticum (sarcolactic acid) Acid-base regulation in the connective tissue. Hydrochinonum (hydroquinonel) Antiseptic and antipyretic action.
-Acidum alpha-liponicum (thioctic acid) Coenzyme in the decomposition of pyruvic acid. Sulfur (sulphur) Reagent in all chronic diseases; cellular activity is influenced catalytically.
-Manganum phosphoricum (manganese phosphate) Conditions of exhaustion with anaemia; trace element action especially in enzyme functions of the citric acid cycle.
-Natrium diethyloxalaceticum (sodium oxalacetate) Active factor of the citric acid cycle and of redox systems; weakness of the defensive mechanism
-Trichinoylum (triquinoyl octahydrate) Regeneration of blocked respiratory enzymes, promotes detoxication
-Anthrachinonum (anthraquinone) Active factor in energy metabolism; promotes detoxication; gastro-intestinal disturbances.
-Naphthochinonum (naphthoquinone) Active factor in energy metabolism; promotes detoxication; after radiotherapy.
-para-Benzochinonum (para-benzoquinone) Active factor in energy metabolism; promotes detoxication; dermatosis
-Ubichinonum (coenzyme Q) Active factor of the intermediary metabolism; promotes detoxication; strengthens the defensive mechanism.
-Adenosinum triphosphoricum (adenosine triphosphate) Support of the energy-consuming systems.
-Coenzymum A (coenzyme A) Coenzyme for transacetylation.
-Histaminum (histamine) To support the detoxicating function; increased glandular secretion; eczema and dermatosis.
-Nadidum (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) Biocatalyst, stimulation of the end oxidation in the respiratory chain.
-Magnesium gluconicum (magnesium gluconate) Trace element action, especially in enzyme functions of the citric acid cycle.
Based on the individual homoeopathic constituents of Ubichinon compositum, therapeutical possibilities result for the stimulation of the defensive mechanisms against toxins in order to reactivate blocked enzyme systems, in the case of defective enzyme functions and in degenerative diseases (cellular phases).
While in allopathic therapy, in the cellular phases located to the right of the biological section, i.e. degenerative diseases, cancer formation and other phases corresponding, in general, to what is known as chronic marasmus, all attempts by the organism to rectify these phases (appearing as illnesses or regressive vicariation) are treated with massive suppressive measures, whereby the enzyme damage present in the phases to the right of the biological section are intensified considerably and possibly made quite irreparable, the biological physician proceeds according to a totally different therapeutical principle,
i.e. by stimulating blocked enzyme systems with catalysts, and depolimerization of the neoplasm phase formation characterized by condensation or polymerization (according to Professor W.F. Koch), when various quinones and activation factors of enzyme functions, in appropriate, finely graduated blends, in addition to homoeopathic remedies of antineoplasmatic action, in suitable dosage (such as Colchicum, Podophyllum, Conium, Hydrastis, Galium aparine) are utilized.
In particular, in this connection, the coenzyme factors (coenzyme A, adenosinum triphosphoricum, nadidum, acidum alpha-liponicum) are important, as well as the trace elements, without which the functioning of the special enzyme systems of the citric acid cycle is not possible (manganese, magnesium).
Also in this connection, the vitamins have an important function to fulfil, less in the form of vitamin substitution than (in comparatively low concentration) as acting as guide rail in the direction of the enzyme system to be induced.
This guide rail principle is also known to have proved satisfactory with the suis-organ preparations. Here one can also speak of certain key functions, in which a suitable key is necessary for specific enzymes, in order for the preparation to achieve its total action and, above all, to gain access to the precursors in enzyme synthesis.
This offers theoretical possibilities that the attack by reparatory enzymes takes place, through which much damage (in the form of therapeutical damage) of the gene apparatus (possibly even in the form of carcinogenesis basically with causal mutation) can be eliminated. Frequently in such cases merely the smallest molecular units in the form of co-repressors or inductors are lacking, in order to reveal the effects of the reparatory enzymes as regeneration.
The action of Ubichinon compositum ampoule therapy is often shown as a beneficial post injection fatigue, in the same way as with Coenzyme compositum ampoules, possibly also with Thyreoidea compositum and Hepar compositum, so that the patient is not denied repose, similar to sleep induced for therapeutical purposes, in order to allow the possibilities of far-reaching restorative processes in the enzyme functions and systems to take effect.
Ubichinon compositum ampoules represent a preparation by means of which progressive vicariation in the area of cellular phases, and finally damage leading to neoplasm phases can be cancelled out, and meanwhile occasional alternating injections of suitable preparations such as Coenzyme compositum ampoules, Glyoxal compositum (rarely or only once), Galium-Heel, Engystol N, Traumeel S, Hepar compositum, Thyreoidea compositum, etc., due to the various points of attack, facilitate a broad final effect.
Ubichinon compositum ampoules increase sensitization to X-rays, etc. (2 hrs. in advance i.m.) and have a favourable action in extreme homotoxin levels, including, for example, for influenza, abscesses, catarrh (aphonia etc.) and similar affections. Ubichinon compositum ampoules are administered then, possibly in combination with Echinacea compositum (forte) S, for neoplasia with Viscum compositum (mite, medium, forte).
Still to be mentioned is the fact that the preparations with a vitamin B1 content (Coenzyme compositum ampoules, Ubichinon compositum ampoules and Discus compositum ampoules) should be injected intravenously only slowly and carefully, as many patients with therapeutical damage (phases 4 to 6) show hypersensitivity towards Vitamin B1, although at the concentrations used here, such incidents, in general, are not to be expected, since the vitamins merely act as guide rails and do not form a massive substitution therapy. The dosage is adapted according to the disease, the clinical picture and the stage of the illness: 1 ampoule once to three times weekly i.m., s.c., i.d.. Only after any possible reactions or disorders appearing have subsided.
should the injection be repeated. At intervals, as required, injections of other suitable preparations (Coenzyme compositum ampoules, Glyoxal compositum, Galium-Heel, Engystol N, Traumeel S, etc.). With this preparation, which contains vitamins, a fleeting, burning pain may occur upon i.d. and s.c. injections.
--- I am not taking the injections of Ubichinon, I'm ingesting it, as suggested by my naturopath.
3- another crappy question to you, Tracy: these mixed homeopathics, I suppose, are produced individually (each substance is diluted first, then added in the end to form the mix).
I was wondering if I could redilute the ampules to a D1 solution instead of taking the undiluted drops from the ampules like I was doing.
I'm already doing this, but I'd like to know what is your opinion on that. If the whole mix would become a sort of 'entity' in itself and that then, it could be rediluted from there on...
I have more questions, but I guess these 3 will give you enough work for the day!!!
I don't need many references, I was wondering just what would be your opinion.
That's why I told before, you were the missing link here! I have got these questions for a loooong time for you!
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Tracy, I found an article here that explains a bit about the difference between the classical approach and these Heel remedies... ---
TISSUE DEEP CLEANSING Despite a clumsy name, homotoxicology is a wonderful natural healing science and has great potential as an anti-ageing tool. It is a therapeutic branch which enables deep cleansing of the body tissues, removing old toxins, disease processes and degenerative debris, leaving the fluids clean, fresh and able to function as intended.
Based on homeopathy, but not quite the same thing, homotoxicology is the brain child of German doctor Hans-Heinrich Reckeweg (1905-1985). Knowing homeopathy and drawing on a vast knowledge of herbal lore and medicines, he compounded a store of remedies which trod a line between folk medicine and basic plant pharmacology. In the course of time it has proved itself so well that tens of thousands of German doctors use it in daily practice, although less well known in the rest of the world. It has been called the German system of homeopathy, though this is slightly comical, since the original subject of homeopathy was also invented by a German: Samuel Hahnemann. Perhaps 'modern homeopathy' would be best and has started to catch on.
Whereas so much molecular medicine is aimed at the cell, as if it were the sole seat of disease, Dr. Alfred Pischinger, then professor of Histology and Embryology in Vienna, saw with great insight that the extracellular fluids were the key to health. These fluids, which Pischinger called the 'matrix', or ground regulation system, because it supports everything else, brings nutrition, oxygen, hormone messengers and other vital substances to the tissues and removes excretion products, toxins and the residue of old diseases. Cells may be important but not a separate entity, because they cannot exist without nurturing in this matrix. Reckeweg pursued Pischinger's matrix model and devized ways to use natural substances to support, clean and revitalize the extracellular fluids. Most of the classic homeopathic remedies are still there, though used slightly differently.
The key variation is the use of mixtures, which classic homeopaths frown upon. But Reckeweg ignored the dogma and carried out decades of practical research, demonstrating conclusively that the formulations worked and worked well. He made compounds which would support the liver and kidneys, which would work for 'flu, diabetes, stimulate metabolism, tone up the immune system, retard tumours, repair inflammation, act as pain-killers and so on. In other words these are function-based medicines. The mixtures give rise to yet another name you may encounter 'complex homeopathy'. Not all remedies are mixtures of substances however; some are single remedies in a mixtures of potencies (called a 'chord', after the musical term for several notes sounding at once).
To give an instance of this modality and explain it more clearly, let us consider in detail one of Reckeweg's original compounds called Tonsilla compositum. It contains 30 remedies in all, some herbal, some mineral, a vitamin and substances called nosodes, which are based on original disease processes but diluted many many times (quite safe).
The full list is as follows:
HEALTHY ORGAN TISSUE (from pig) Lymph glands Tonsils Bone marrow Umbilical cord Embryo Spleen Liver Hypothalamus Adrenal gland
HOW CAN RECKEWEG'S CURES HELP AGAINST AGEING? Two ways. Firstly, life-long use of these remedies is a better way enable healing. The majority of treatments conventional medicine uses are simply ways of suppressing the disease, not aiding nature in bringing about a cure. Aware doctors have already observed that this simply drives the pathological process underground, only to emerge in later life as a chronic and often degenerative disease. Homotoxicology not only helps cure the disease, it removes the whole process so that, as it were, there is no mess left behind to haunt the invalid in years to come.
Secondly, there are a number of compounds which will support organs and keep them vibrant and efficient until late in life. Thus there is Hepar compositum, to help the liver and Solidago compositum or Populus compositum, to stimulate kidney drainage. Cerebrum comp. is great for the ageing brain and Ovarium comp. and Testis comp. may help in maintaining the vitality of sex hormones until much later in life. Aesculus (horse chestnut) and Crataegus (hawthorn) have been known since times immemorial as cures for arterial and heart problems; now we have Aesculus comp. and Cretaegus-heel.
But that is not all. Reckeweg was very modern and compounded formulas based upon knowledge of the citric acid or 'Kreb's cycle', the intra-cellular process which generates all our energies. Each of the ten steps of the citric acid cycle needs a special 'catalyst' or enzyme, which results in a new intermediate substance (it is called a cycle because eventually it goes back to where it started and runs continuously). Reckeweg found that his method worked just as well on each step of this life-giving cycle and stimulating 'intermediate catalysts' is now a key part of homotoxicology. It is one of the great boosts against the slowing down process of ageing.
REMEDIES TO TRY Depending on local laws in your country, you may be able to prescribe for yourself. Very many of Reckeweg's remedies are available over the counter and by mail order. Formulas to try are as follows:
SPECIFIC ANTI-AGEING Coenzyme comp. Ubichinon comp. Procaine comp. (note Gerovital is based on procaine).
NOTE: I have used throughout the product names of major German manufacturers HEEL (herba est ex luce (Latin): 'plants are from light'). There are other quality producers of complex homeopathy products and I must mention in particular also 'Dr Reckeweg' (company name), Noma and US firms BHI and Futureplex. Each produces a manual/catalogue which explains the rationale of their formulations in detail.
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Hi, Selma - I'm absolutely out of time this morning, and you've posed very interesting questions AND given me some great insight about potentizing supplements - something I've wanted to learn more about from someone who has actualy done this!
I have to post back later or tomorrow, but I certainly won't forget!
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This stuff confuses me so much I can't begin to comprehend. I feel like I'm in a classroom leaning ancient chinese folklore. lol.
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I waited months to talk to you again, so I can wait a few days more!
I have many more questions left, still... Poor you.
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Seekhelp, I knew nothing about homeopathy about 10 or 15 years ago. Since I started using it and getting good results, I have been using it without stop.
There are schools and schools of homeopathy and I guess, we're far from reaching an end for new discoveries, products, uses...
with the photons, I'm getting even more interested in it!
Enjoy Chinese folklore classes!!! Or snake oil classes??!!!
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Selma- The InnoVita supplements contain "animal" derived products without the actual animal. It's not homeopathic, though.
They recreate the animal genetics with amino acids & combine it with herbs. This way, any toxins from using an animal are eliminated. They also adjust the recreated amino acids to harmonize with the human body.
It's actually vegetarian!
This is a simplified version of what they are doing. Check their website for further info if you are interested.
It's a very fascinating concept to me!
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Ha, ha - Seekhelp, I know how you feel, too. As Selma suggested, this is more like Snake Oil classes, lol. As Selma knows, I even use the term Snake Oil a lot since I can't seem to spell `homepathy' right most of the time. (See? I just spelled it wrong right there.) Besides, people around here often think that `homeopathy' has something to do with sexual preference or being gay.
Well, drat. Apparently there have been some posts to my Cuba/ Nosodes thread but I'm not being notified by email. Anybody else having this problem?
RE low dilutions of supplements and herbs: This is fascinating, and a whole other avenue of homeopathic-like application! It's wonderful that you are testing these substances - both with energetic testing and then by actual trial on your own body to confirm it! You just amaze me, Selma.
It is absolutely true that the original properties of many substances are retained at the lower dilutions. In fact, this is what can make some remedies - like snake and spider venoms - dangerous in very low potencies. I.e., Lachesis (bushmaster snake venom) caused severe problems (some permanent) in a few people working with this substance in potencies below about 6C.
So, IMHO, the use of some type of energetic testing - ART, muscle testing, biotensors - is really essential for those who may wish to experiment in this area! Just because you may be working with an herb rather than snake venom doesn't automatically mean that it will be safe or right for you.
So, whatever the original properties of the substance are, you can duplicate these properties in minute doses by diluting and pounding the solution. Look at the homoeopathic remedy, Allium-cepa, made of potentized red onion. It can help the body overcome a cold or allergy with symptoms similar to slicing up an onion.
In my own experience, I've made 3C remedies from both Devil's Claw (to reduce pain and inflammation for my dog's arthritic symptoms) and Echinacea (to help my cat recover from a long-standing ear abscess/infection after the infection was cleared by a previous homeopathic remedy). 3C is much higher than what you are using, and I suspect lower potencies would be even better.
As far as what is in the literature, it's difficult to find anything without a specific term for what is being done. But....
Awhile back, I ran across a short article that includes discussion about what you are doing by Dr. Charles McWilliams [M.D. - I think he is now in the West Indies], who has conducted research in the field of vibrational medical technology for the last 12 years. He has developed many medical technological devises including a photonic homeopathic potency simulator (not sure what that is).... He talks about light, heat, radio waves, etc., and indicates that sugar is stored light, and in today's world, we reach for sugar instead of light! Anyway, here's what he says about potentized `substances'.....
quote:``.... flower remedies, cell salts, potentized minerals, potentized vitamins are used extensively in the practice. These are used to resonate metabolic functions to a higher energy level. If you are not utilizing a vitamin to a high efficiency, you can take potentized vitamins to get more utility out of it......
In the case of metabolic insufficiencies, inability to use mineral salts in the body, enzymatic problems, nutritional deficits, we use them for more prolonged periods of time in an attempt to raise the body's energy potential.
``....Homeopathy is a time tested, proven method of detoxification and it works. The old homeopathic method of trituration and succussion, the grinding and pounding and shaking of a substance is nothing more that the release of photons of light....''
I think there may be term for this method of diluting therapeutic substances, but I can't come up with it. Perhaps it falls into the realm of Tautopathy.
Tautopathy: The science of antidotes and toxicology. This method excels in removing the effect of drugs and toxins.
Robin Murphy, one of the imminent contemporary American homeopaths, writes about Tautopathy. Murphy considers his style of practicing ``Clinical Homeopathy'', which is far more diverse than Classical Homeopathy. I'm beginning to embrace his view of the homeopathic world. He says:
quote:``One of the main reasons many Homeopaths fail to be successful in practice is because they are not taught "real world homeopathy". They are taught "idealistic homeopathy", which is the classical approach. You need an ideal patient for classical homeopathy to work; they are the exception in homeopathic practice not the rule.
``Etiology overrules symptomatology in clinical practice. If the cause of the disorder is a drug then the homeopath should be prescribing accordingly. The symptoms are an expression of the Vital Force. Each case tells you via the etiology and symptoms whether to go for homeopathy, tautopathy or isopathy, etc.''
One way to use Tautopathy is by prescribing of potentized (homeopathic) ALLOPATHIC Drugs based on their ALLOPATHIC indications. So, it seems the same could hold true if using an herbal substance based on the indications for that herb. A couple of examples of Tautopathy using drugs:
Example: Ritalin is used in hyperactivity; therefore it has that similar affinity, for that disease. It is a stimulant that treats over stimulated children. Therefore Ritalin in potency [homeopathic] is a great remedy for treating hyperactivity.
Example: Dopamine is the drug for Parkinson's disease. Therefore [homeopathic] Dopamine is a remedy for Parkinson's disease. These patients also have a dopamine deficiency.
So, don't you think this is very similar to what you are doing, Selma?
Along these lines, when I was working with my homeopath (it's been over a year), on 2 separate occasions, she recommended that I make a remedy out of an allopathic drug, rather than take the drug. She had no qualms about doing this, but I was the one that was hesitant to do it, so we never progressed with discussion of the idea. Well, I know a little more now. And I WOULD like the benefit of some kind of energetic testing as a guide before going down this path.
Anyway, Murphy talks about some Tuatopathic methods of prescribing (and others) in this article, if you want to read more.
Well, sorry this is so long on one topic but I find this so very interesting. When I imagine all the potential applications here, it's pretty mind-boggling.
More on the other topics later.... (among other distractions, I managed to wrench my back a bit so having some trouble spending too much time at the computer)..
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OH, and one other thing....
Since we often utilize so little of anything we ingest - herbs, vitamins, minerals, etc. - it means that our bodies must filter and expel all the 'unused or unneeded' substances. By diluting and potentizing these substances, it seems that maybe we are reducing the burden of 'elimination' on ourselves.
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Tracy, Just a little insight I had from what you wrote. The stomach and its churning could be view as an instrument of succession. Walking after a meal might further dilute the substances being digested. All this to potentize the energy of what we digest. Further, showing a lack of movement is a lack of energy.
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Sparkle, the InnoVita supplements do seem to be different..... I'd certainly look into them if I were considering any glandulars.
Bob, that really IS what's going on in the gut, isn't it! We are `diluting and succussing' whatever we eat! I think that observation of yours is just shy of brilliant (but I could be biased).
RE Over-the-counter combination remedies: There appear to be at least 2 types of `combination' remedies.
The Heel products (among others) appear to be based on the homotoxicology theory of disease - basically, that all disease is a response to toxins (that's my take on it anyway). I keep hearing about how wonderful some of these German combinations are, but the problem in this country is that most of the research info and literature which might back up that claim is in German! We have many of these remedies available here but very little about the efficacy or safety of these remedies from those who have spent years in developing these mixtures.
The OTHER types of commercial combination remedies are those that simply contain a number of remedies known to `cure' a specific ailment, like a cold or a sinus problem. Again, we - as consumers - often have no idea if these combinations have been tested on anyone, or how the company arrived at the potencies used in the remedy, etc.
So, for me, there are a couple of problems here.
We can actually `measure' the frequency of a given remedy in a certain potency. So, what kind of `frequency' do we end up with when we combine several remedies, different potencies, the same remedy in different potencies, etc.? Does it all combine to create a new frequency, or does each remedy in each potency retain its original frequency so that we are getting all these frequencies together? And how does a living organism (you and me) react to that?
I have no idea.
And here's my other problem, one based on experience. I find that I react - in some way - to 90% of the remedies I ingest. So, last fall when I became totally frustrated trying to latch on to the specific symptoms of some weird sinus issue so that I could treat it appropriately, I went to the local health food store and bought a combination remedy that contained a group of remedies that were closest to the ones I had considered for my sinus issue.
Within 2 days, I had a proving symptom from one of the remedies in the combination, and not only that, the product hadn't done anything for my sinus problem. (As I recall, I ended up with a strange, specific, unfamiliar pain going from my rib area up into my R shoulder - a Kali-bich proving.) ``Proving symptoms' indicate that you've got the wrong remedy, and historically, if you continue using a remedy that gives you proving symptoms, they can become permanent.
And here's something else..... remember what I mentioned about Lachesis causing some severe problems in people below a 6C potency? I was at the chiropractor's office awhile back (getting ionic detox foot bath) and noticed a `combination remedy' product sitting on the counter. I picked it up, and one of the ingredients was LACHESIS 6X!! Do I - a person who reacts to most remedies - want to `trust' that somehow this potency of Lachesis could never be harmful because it is in some commercial combination?
The chiropractor that sells these products does muscle testing, and I've found that she's really pretty good, but I've found that I'm blocked when it comes to getting appropriate answers regarding my intestinal affinity for remedies, supplements. And this lady didn't detect that I was blocked (but I am!) So, even if she muscle tested this remedy (with the Lachesis in it) for me, I wouldn't trust a `yes' answer.
Now, on the positive side, it's hard to argue with success. Scott and others here have successfully used the Pekana combinations (from Germany), and some use SanPharma (I THINK those are similar). How can I argue with what works?
I look at all the remedies that Luvs2ride took early in her Lyme treatment - many of them were combinations from Germany, some were nosodes - and she had some amazing eradication of many of her Lyme symptoms. She will tell you that herself.
But after a few months, she ended up with relentless RA symptoms and elected to go more `mainstream' to deal with the RA issue.
So, for many people, clearly these combinations work wonders. But in the back of my mind, even in Luvs case, could the RA issue have arisen as a result of some remedy she took in those combos that she reacted to? And whether its true or not, how would we know? (This is PURE speculation on my part, and I'm not suggesting this is what happened.)
So, those are my thoughts on this, Selma, for whatever they are worth.
Ugg. Better quit for awhile....
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Very interesting discussion!
Do we really have to be concerned about ill health due to ingesting the wrong remedy or having too many things in one remedy?
Do we really have to consider serious long term side effects from using the wrong remedy or too low a dilution?
I'm not sure???
If this is the case what about all of the toxins we are exposed to in daily life. Just getting stuck in traffic once could cause potentially fatal interactions if this were completely true. Drinking a glass of tap water could really cause cancers somewhere down the line...
Maybe these things do? It's hard to say...
I'm not trying to be a "devil's advocate" but can there be long term health effects from homeopathic remedies? I thought we were using these to try to avert the dangers of drugs.
All of this is very interesting to me. I'm not trying to be negative or inflammatory. I'm just curious about it. I'm just raising questions for further investigation into all of this.
In our current state of affairs - maybe we need ever increasingly complex products to counteract all of the toxins we come in contact with...?
They have found many drug traces in tap water. Maybe we are being dosed everyday with "homeopathic" pharmaceutical drugs? Not to mention what may be in the chemtrails I see almost every day in the sky...
Look at the ingredients in a so-called healthy commercial granola bar... There are so many weird things in food, it's a wonder people survive it all.
Not to mention the pathogens like Lyme & company, viruses, mycoplasmas, PCBs, various chemical toxins, funguses, yeasts, pollen, animal danders, heavy metals, vaccines, etc...
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fwiw that Bruce Lipton in The Wisdom of Your Cells says that energetic communication with the cells is 100 times more effective than chemical communication. This includes photons, rife, homeopathics, thought, perceptions, hands on energy work, and so on.
I am wondering about this energetic communication of supplements. Doesnt putting the chemical in energy form just make it more "digestable" in a sense if one believes that it is the energy exchange and not the chemical substance that is making the connection that plugs into the cell receptor and turns the key, so to speak.
Interesting idea. Makes me wonder also about "thougtful" photon therapy. woo woo. But I go there.
Then I have been influenced by the idea that energy knows how to heal us better than we do and that intrigues me and baffles me..
Sometimes I am not sure if we are the ones who are discovering the wrongs and the righting of them is what exposes them.. thus the ongoing drama of recovery which clearly points out cause and effect (not touching bioweaponized lyme and buddies).
Then I remember how a dear friend "just recovered" (over time) after a near death experience. The Energy seemed to know what to do and she was too sick but to allow it and intuitively follow.
I've since recently read of near death experiences and miraculous recoveries post experience... being so close to this person has changed my view forever on our potential for healing and frustated me to no end as to what our role is in that.
At times, I think the WORK is part of the process that will lead us to much less work in the end.
But I have neurolyme and can be delusional.;-)
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Isnt the idea with homeopathics, or is it just herbal therapy, to treat for short periods until the body has adjusted and them drop treatment? Its not intended for long term use like drinking water. Just a thought from someone mostly in the dark.:-D
Of course the best way to supplement is with good food supported by a healthy digestive tract.
Recently noted: my new water filters filter out pharmaceuticals. Treament plant told us they were working on that as well. So many wrongs to right. I am assuming that is part of the process we are in.. if a light and messages of energetic nature cure, then what else does the future bring?
Actually, I had a good day today.. so its not neurolyme (whatever.. the nano bug.. ) I have to blame here.:-)
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There is a lot of speculation going on here. That is understandable but what I pay attention to is results. Sparkle seems to get results. Bejoy does. Selma also although it keeps surfacing again, either from new tickbites or constitutional issues. Bob seems to be doing well.
Too much theory or opinion may bog us down. Anyway I'm most interested in actual reports of folks treating with light or remedies and feeling better. For instance this report of healing after an NDE -- please tell us more! It could be due to an altered state of peace allowing the body to heal. NDE's are interesting.
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RE additional dilution of combination products (Selma's 3rd question): All I can say here Selma is that I've come to trust your muscle testing on these things.
Since I'm not completely sure what type of energy is generated from homeopathic combinations, taking it one step further and diluting (and succussing, I presume) the original homeopathic mixture just adds another question to the first question.
Sparkle, you said: ``Do we really have to be concerned about ill health due to ingesting the wrong remedy or having too many things in one remedy? Do we really have to consider serious long term side effects from using the wrong remedy or too low a dilution?''
Well, since I react to most remedies, for me it is definitely true. But not everyone is like me. When `provings' are conducted to find out what symptoms a remedy will cause - and therefore `cure' - the largest majority of people usually do not react at all. They do not develop any symptoms as a result of taking the remedy. Apparently, their bodies `see' the remedy as something they don't need and there is no reaction to it and it just passes on through.
But for a certain percentage of people, there is a definite reaction in the form of symptom development. And some people, for whom the remedy is something they need, it may be curative or palliative; in other words, taking the remedy may alleviate some nagging problem they already have. Provings are of short duration and the symptoms that people develop will go away after the remedy is stopped.
I think the basic, key thing to remember here is TIME, or rather the length of time you use any remedy and how often you take a dose.
And perhaps secondary to that is to RESPECT the fact that homeopathic remedies, while generally considered extremely safe, are powerful medicines. And any time there is that much power to heal, there is also power that can be used incorrectly.
If you are mindful of those two things, you will be fine.
Reactions to remedies have meaning; if you are working on your own, it will pay to do a little research to learn more about `similar and dissimilar aggravations' in homeopathy so you can understand what your body is trying to tell you. It isn't always easy! Not every negative reaction is a `herx'.
And this is where some form of energetic testing could be extremely helpful! As Selma and others here have demonstrated, `testing' what should be done next can reduce or eliminate a lot of mental `analysis' of what is happening.
As R62 correctly pointed out, both herbs and homeopathics are `medicines' and generally not intended to be taken indefinitely. (There are exceptions - like when there is no hope of `curing' some permanent pathology.) The idea is to bring about balance, at which point the medicine is no longer needed. Competent herbalists and homeopaths are trained are better equipped to understand the nuances of each substance/ remedy, and work with it accordingly. As we all know, any `professional' can make mistakes, too, so a little knowledge on the patient's part is never a wasted effort.
I can't count how many times I've posted on this board that treating a chronic (long-standing) ailment or disease - like Lyme - is best left to a competent, experienced homeopath. This discussion is bringing out some of the reasons why I say that.
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Tracy -- Exactly why I'm seeing a homeopath on Tuesday. My gole is to ensure I've rid myself of all pathogens energetically and to get remedies to help clear all stored poisons that had accumulated while I was sick. Finally, to increase my metabolism and fix as much as I can in the endocrine system.
Yesterday, I had a good day of work, I even did about 6 hours of coding (computer programming) to improve a process. 3 hours fixing problems and consulting with folks. And I slept well last night. This morning aerobically exercised.
Just an exercise, I want everyone to clear there thoughts and relax there minds focusing specifically on the side of your heads just above the ears. Then while feeling that part of your head, create relaxing thought all the way to the crown of the head. Do this for a couple of minutes. Then imagine yourself when you were the healthiest. Imagine all the frequencies in your body that made you that healthy and try to reclaim them.
Try this exercise if you like once a day. For about 5 minutes in a quiet time. If we are truly quantum creatures then by this intention we can use frequencies from the past to heal. And it costs nothing. Yet another way to look at energy healing. An easy way to use meditation and intention.
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We can start a separate thread on NDE/percerption and belief and the effect on healing. I cannot share personal exp further though. I dont think there will be any reports coming in.
I'll start the thread. I know there is some bio-quantum connection to either an "altered" state of peace or who knows.. the exposure to a light.:-) Whatever the case... whether the experience is for real or not.. changes have taken place that effect the body. Yogis have this power. Bruce Lipton speaks of it in The Wisdom of Your Cells and has some science to back it up. If homeopathy sends energetic signals that work, surely those are not the only signals the cells communicate with.
quote:Originally posted by oxygenbabe: There is a lot of speculation going on here. That is understandable but what I pay attention to is results. Sparkle seems to get results. Bejoy does. Selma also although it keeps surfacing again, either from new tickbites or constitutional issues. Bob seems to be doing well.
Too much theory or opinion may bog us down. Anyway I'm most interested in actual reports of folks treating with light or remedies and feeling better. For instance this report of healing after an NDE -- please tell us more! It could be due to an altered state of peace allowing the body to heal. NDE's are interesting.
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Hey, Bob! Let us know how it goes with the homeopath! Sounds like you are doing really well - so glad to hear that. You've sparked so much of the rational conversation on this kind of topic the past year.......
Great exercise suggestion, too, Bob. And while we're at it, let's not forget to BREATHE. I suspect most of us are very shallow breathers.
R62, you make some interesting points about bio-quantum connections and altered states.... inexplicable but real.
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Tracy, thanks for your wisdom! I'm sort of not-afraid-at-all when dealing with homeopathy, but I', GOING to try to be more careful.
I'll have to be brief as I have to go out.
Just a note on minerals and loads of other supplements, my lyme doctor (Switzerland) uses ONLY these as supplements, not the actual chemicals. So he uses pregnenolone homeopathic, T3 homeopathic, magnesium homeopathic, Vit B6 homeoapathic and so on.
I think there's a general knowledge here that if one takes homeopathic dilutions, the body can try to find the actual substance and make use of it, while with supplementation, the 'deffect' of the body continues (for instance, one takes food with Vit B, but the body can't absorb it for some reason). The B vit homeopathic would 'regulate' the body's absorption of Vit. B instead of merely providing an extra amount of Vit. B itself.
For hormones, I thought this was a well known practice (at least, among the homeopaths I know)... I mean, take the homeopathic hormone, and you get a balance on the production of that hormone.
That's where I got my idea to use a C1 dilution of magnesium. It IS working, as I told, for cramps. And now I'm taking only once a day, not twice as in the beginning. I did some skiing this weekend, no cramps at all!!!
thanks Tracy for your view on mixed homeopathics. I guess this is a Germanic tradition, yes, as it's sooo widespread here. I find almost nothing soo mixed in Belgium, for example. A bit, but not much. The mixed formulas are usually customized formulas created by a pharmacist or so, but there's not a huge industry behind like in Germany.
there was an article I think Sparkle copied (or gave the link some time ago)about frequencies in homeopathic dilutions and photon frequencies. It was a very interesting article.
I am now only experimenting own dilutions with few supplements, like Magnesium, Vit E, enzymes and few herbs. One disadvantage is that one has to take homeopathics a bit separate from each other. Normal suplements, we can take with food or with other herbs, for example.
Another idea would be with chlorella or bear garlic... I just keep wondering... I think I'll do an experiment some time soon. With detox supplements, I'm afraid to get a strong reaction, but I'll let you guys know.
I don't think there's much interest in research there because it would make the supplement industry collapse. Imagine you get a pill of something and you produce homeopathic dilutions at home for the rest of the year with a single pill... Not very interesting commercially...
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I read the whole article on tautopathy, it is VERY VERY interesting, thank you Tracy. He only speaks though about uses to relieve toxicity.
I find the idea to add the cell salts homeopathic while ingesting herbs and other homeopathic dilutions very interesting. Dr. K. always says to add electrolytes to herbs.
Somehow, these cells seem to aid the cells themselves, not exactly the matrix. I'm copy-pasting that part here... ---
Tautopathic Prescribing for Detoxification. Naturopaths strongly believe in detoxification and homeopaths should too. Knowing methods of detoxification will save lives.
Our bodies are made of 75% water, therefore the Cell Salts are very important remedies. Cell Salts are about cleaning the intra-cellular water that has become poisoned. Everything including aging comes down to cell water, cellular dehydration being the cause of many problems.
In the US, there is a product called "Bioplasma", it has all of the 12 tissue salts in each tablet. You take them by placing the Cell Salts in a bottle of water & shake it up, the energy of the water changes. I call this Biowater, it is like a homeopathic I.V. The best time to take this is at the Kidney hour, which is between 6.25am and 10.17am.
Another method is to place the Cell Salts in water bottles, then add the tautopathic remedy in last: the sequence is important as the remedy placed in last overrides the others. In cigarette addiction, place the Cell salts in water, then add Nicotine 30C and then do a flush for 7 days. The more the water, the more powerful it becomes. You can "layer" the water
Example: Detox tonics can be made with Pure Water + Cell Salts + Herbs + Tautopathic remedy. Whatever the last potency or the highest potency added is what influences the tonic the most. Distilled water is the best. Carry out the flush for 7 days, add herbs and remedies for the organs and this will help pull out toxins.
Caution should be used when applying these detox tonics, I recommend they be used for short period of time only, and that then a break is given and the detox repeated only if necessary.
To summarise, knowing clinical homeopathy will be a great boon to anyone in practice today and in the future. Knowing tautopathic prescribing is absolutely essential because of the fact that the majority of the human population is being poisoned o the coming year n a daily basis and I hope to be teaching a post-graduate course on clinical homeopathy and tautopathy in the UK in the coming year.
------ My use of the dilutions of Magnesium, for example, is a bit different. Same as for liver herbs dilution... I feel they are still strong in D1 or even C1 dilutions...
He also gave me a good idea to try Lithium orotate in homeopathic dilutions, if I find it here.... ---
In the other thread of Marnie, about what is Dr. W. using in his IVs and the Bionic, I see he's a fan of Heel products. He's using then Lymphomyosot (for the lymph), Hepar compositum (for the liver), and another mix homeopathic product from Ceres called Solidago (for kidneys).
And as for the other ingredients, Magn, Zink and sodium bicarbonate, these are HIT products from Sanum!!!
the Magnesium dilution I did comes from Sanum (product called Mapurit). I also used their Zinc homeopathic in the beginning of my adventure with Sanum (called Zinkokehl, which is zinc in homeopathic dilutions).
It tested well for a few weeks, then I think my body now knows where to find zinc and how to use it. It is an important mineral in metal detoxing.
The last thing, sodium carbonate, I wonder if he's using it non-homeopathic, like Sanum proposes too (Alkala N). I feel that we can't mix everything in homeopathy, if taken at once, I mean...
If this is aimed basically to alcalinize the body, I find the other Sanum product called Sanuvis is better than sodium bicarbonate.
I also did my own dilutions of Sanuvis (which is already a mix of dilutions of latic acid), and so my single bottle will last a century or so???!!! I prefer my dilution because it has almost no alcohol...
So I'm amazed to see what dr. W. is using is in fact nosodes+photons to kill, then a mix of homeopathic dilutions to cleanse.
The addition of non-homeopathic things could be because the homeopathic dilutions of mag, zinc and baking soda would match well the other Heel dilutions? I'm supposing mag, zinc and sodium bicarbonate are not homeopathic, but who knows...
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The tautopathy concept and this article will CERTAINLY be in my mind for a looong time, Tracy.
Here in Belgium, my homeopath suggested me, in case I give a vaccination to my daughter, to get the SAME vaccine (with ALL its toxic contents) in HOMEOPATHIC dilutions (he said 200K ,I think) and give it IMMEDIATELY after the inoculation.
So now I know he's suggesting me tautopathy!! He said that this will deal with toxicity from the vacination.
Now I WILL ADD these cell salts OR electrolytes (I'll just muscle test to see which tests better) to these homeopathic dilutions of vaccines and see what happens next time, if we can't avoid furhter vaccines.
In fact, when I use electrolytes to PRESERVE my homeopathic dilutions, I wonder if I am NOT already using this suggestion of Robin Murphy (as I do electrolytes out from sucussed Himalayan salt)... So I am using homeopathic salt together with homeopathic substances, I wonder if they in fact help the homeopathic message go deeper into cells...
Fascinating.
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Bob, how was your consultation with the homeopath??
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I found this in the internet, the practioners are using Heel injections on local accupuncture points to treat patients... Interesting. ----
What is Biopuncture?
Biopuncture is a therapy whereby specific locations are injected with biological products. Most of these injections are given under the skin or into the muscles.
What kind of products are being injected?
Most ampoules contain low doses of plant extracts. Products commonly used in Biopuncture are, for example, arnica, echinacea, nux vomica and chamomile. Arnica is used for muscle pain, nux vomica is injected for digestive problems, echinacea is used to increase the natural defense system of the body. Biopuncturists always inject cocktails of natural products. Traumeel for example is used for inflammations and sports injuries, Spascupreel is used for muscular cramps and Lymphomyosot for lymphatic drainage. Hundreds of different cocktails are available these days.
Are these products safe for me?
The ampoules do not contain high concentrations of the active substances. As only low doses are injected, toxic side effects are very unlikely. Additionally, the ampoules used in Biopuncture are manufactured by companies that guarantee the production quality of their products. Most of the ampoules used for injection are made in Germany and are submitted to very strict quality control regulations and systems. Clinical studies on thousands of patients have confirmed the safety of ampoules like for example Traumeel.
How can these dilutions actually have an effect on my body?
The fact that most ampoules only contain very low concentrations of plant extracts is often a reason for conventional physicians to criticize the possible effects of these products. But one has to add here that the products used in Biopuncture are not diluted to the extent that an ampoule contains no active products any more (as in ``real'' homeopathy). That's why we call them micro-doses. So, it is more than just injecting water.
How does this small dose influence the body then? When you receive a tetanus vaccination, only small amounts of a product are necessary to stimulate the immune system (= your defense system) against lockjaw. A few injections can protect your body for several years against such a serious disease! Biopuncture injections are not real vaccinations, of course, but the idea of the mechanism of action is similar: small doses of the right product can have a huge effect. And Biopuncture produces its clinical effects because it stimulates your immune system to restart its healing capacities.
Has it been proven that Biopuncture works by stimulating my immune system?
Physicians around the world have experienced the effects of these injections for decades. But the problem was to prove to other colleagues how it really worked. Recent research on Biopuncture has given new insights as to how these products seem to do the job. A scientific investigation has illustrated that Traumeel indeed works via the immune system. (Your physician will be surprised to hear that the mechanisms of action of Traumeel include both inhibition of IL-1� and inhibition of TNF-alpha Secretion.) In June 2004 an article about Traumeel was published in an important medical journal ``Clinical & Developmental Immunology'' which is a highly respected journal in conventional medicine. If your doctor really wants to know more about this study or is interested in other clinical studies about Biopuncture, he or she can find more information in the textbooks on Biopuncture''.
But how does Biopuncture work then to help me with my pain or inflammations?
In conventional medicine, the actual drug you take suppresses your symptoms immediately. That is why you need to take high doses of chemical substances in order to suppress for example pain. And as soon as the medication stops working, you have to take another pill to kill the pain again. The same goes for anti-inflammatories, medication to control your blood pressure or pills for high cholesterol. That's how these drugs are designed. However, in Biopuncture small doses of products are injected in order to stimulate the natural healing processes. These micro doses ``wake up'' mechanisms which are available anyway. So, the healing effect comes from ``inside'' your body - not from the products themselves. It's the reaction of your immune system which will produce the proper reactions to regain natural healing. The reaction of the body may vary from better local blood circulation to relaxation of muscles or a local detoxification of tissues.
Will Biopuncture help me as quickly as conventional therapies?
It is obvious that injections of micro-doses are less powerful than for example cortisone injections. The dose used is too small to immediately suppress the inflammation. But that's not the goal of Biopuncture! We consider an inflammation as an important element of true and lasting healing. The goal of Biopuncture is to stimulate the natural inflammatory processes in order to get complete and natural healing of the injured tissues - not to suppress them. So, we do exactly the opposite of conventional drugs. As a result, the symptomatic relief may take a while, especially for chronic cases. But when dealing with acute injuries, the effects of the injections are apparent almost immediately.
Where are these injections given?
Most people - especially those who are apprehensive about injections because they may have had bad experiences with injections in their childhood - are surprised how easily and quickly these injections are given. In fact, these injections cannot be compared to the `usual' injections given in conventional medicine. They are not as painful as an injection in for example a hospital because the needle used is very fine and the quantity injected is very small. Indeed, they look more like little pinpricks. Most of them are given into or just under the skin, others are given into specific muscle points or into your ligaments. Your doctor doesn't give the injections in the buttock or arm, but they are administered in carefully chosen zones. The place where the doctor injects the product is as important as the product itself. It's different for each patient. During the Biopuncture course, doctors are instructed what techniques to use and what products to inject.
How many injections will I receive each session?
A lot of these injections are given at more than one spot during each session. For example, if your doctor wants to work on your liver, he or she will give about 7 little injections under the skin on your abdomen. When you have pain in your elbow, your physician will look for several painful spots in your arm muscles or elbow ligaments, and inject each of them in one session. In such a case, you may receive anything from three to ten little injections in your elbow, neck or arm. So in most cases, several injections are given in a specific zone (or in several areas) of the body at each session.
How many sessions of Biopuncture will be necessary?
The fact that your doctor uses small doses of natural products instead of cortisone injections means that you have to be more patient. If you have had problems for several months or even years, your doctor must work on different layers. If it is a complicated case, your health care provider must sometimes also look for deeper causes of your complaints and work on these. Sometimes your hormonal system has to be regulated. Or he or she must do a detoxification first before even starting to work on your symptoms. As a result, you may need five sessions or even more to feel better. When you realize that these products are natural products that do not show any major side effects, you may be motivated to be more patient than usual. In the long run, however, the results of Biopuncture are longer lasting because the healing comes from within and does not depend on the pills you take every day to take away the symptoms.
Is there an element of risk with such injections?
It is clear that the physician who decides to use Biopuncture, will always do so according to the latest technical standards. That is his or her duty as a medical professional. This includes a correct injection technique, and of course the use of sterile disposable material. The latter means that the needle has never been in contact with any other patient and that any transmission of disease (e.g. hepatitis, AIDS) is impossible. This should give you confidence in the safety of the technique. But you may end up with a blue spot at the site of injection the next day.
What is a ``detox'' treatment?
An important issue in Biopuncture is the detoxification of the body. It literally means ``cleaning the body.'' All the toxins that have accumulated in your body, for example from the environment (air pollution), from bad nutrition, or from medication (e.g. antibiotics and steroids you've taken) can block your immune defense system. They can also disturb the reflex responses of your nervous system. All these toxins in your body are the reason why your body may not be functioning optimally as it did when you were younger. Eliminating all these toxins is an important strategy in Biopuncture, especially when dealing with chronic diseases. Some injections work specifically on the liver and others on the kidneys or on the lymphatic system. Especially, the cleaning up of the lymphatic system with Lymphomyosot is considered very important in Biopuncture.
When should my physician suggest Biopuncture?
Biopuncture cannot heal all your medical problems. This is not a miracle therapy. It is up to your family physician to decide what can be treated, and what can't. The majority of patients choose to be treated with Biopuncture because they are in pain and do not support the use of conventional painkillers. However, it is important to realize that Biopuncture isn't designed to `take away' the pain as with conventional medication. Pain is seen as an important `signal' from your body that something is going wrong. It is similar to a red light on the dashboard of your car: the aim is not to just `take it away' but to look for the deeper cause. This means that if pain can be alleviated with Biopuncture - without prescribing painkillers - there is good reason to conclude that the deeper cause of that particular pain has been eliminated.
I've heard that things can get worse immediately after my first treatment. Is that correct?
It all depends. Every case is different. Sometimes you improve immediately after the injection. It means you really feel better within minutes after the injections. Critics might describe such a phenomenon as a ``placebo effect'' by saying that you feel better because you believe you're going to be feeling better. In Biopuncture, such an immediate improvement is rather likely to happen when dealing with a fresh sports injury for example. But as stated before, when dealing with complaints that have persisted for months or years, things need some time to heal. In the beginning the pain may shift from one area to another when the body starts to react to the treatment. This is not a bad sign but the first step of natural healing. It is called the ``adaptation phase.'' You may even notice that - especially the day after the injection - you feel a little worse, experiencing more pain or discomfort after the first session. This is exactly the opposite of the so-called placebo effect! This temporary worsening of complaints usually means that the healing processes are being activated. The body is working on the problem, and that is exactly what we want. In Biopuncture it is called the ``reaction phase''. But when you understand that this means that real healing is on its way, you will be willing to accept these minor reactions in the beginning of the treatment.
When should I consider Biopuncture?
Most physicians use Biopuncture for minor orthopedic problems. Neck pain and back pain are good indications for Biopuncture, but one can also treat sciatica, ankle sprain, pain in the shoulder and Achilles tendonitis using these natural vaccinations. Biopuncture is also very successful in treating sports injuries, tennis elbow, golf elbow, and so on. However, Biopuncture is not just used for pain problems. An area of treatment worth noting is that of allergies and inflammations. For example, one can treat asthma, eczema and hay fever. And even patients with bronchitis, cystitis and sinusitis can be treated with this technique. When a physician is experienced in the technique, he or she can also treat you for migraine, tension headache, Crohn's disease, colitis, Cluster headache, neuralgia, and so on.
Who may benefit from Biopuncture?
The use of biotherapeutic injections can benefit those patients who have tried conventional medicine but have had no success, or for those who have had to stop taking conventional medication because of side effects. It is an interesting healing technique for those patients who want to avoid an operation (for example for sciatica or sinusitis). In some patients it may be advantageous to combine the conventional approach together with Biopuncture. Many people still believe that one has to stop conventional treatments when choosing Biopuncture. This is not true. When you are being treated with Biopuncture, you just continue the medication you were already taking. In case of doubt, always contact your physician first for professional advice. Each case should be taken into account individually, of course.
When is Biopuncture not appropriate?
Let us be clear about it: Biopuncture cannot heal you from cancer, diabetes, a heart attack or AIDS. Nor is it an appropriate treatment for high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, Parkinson, depression or epilepsy. In some cases, the disease is too serious or too aggressive, and can only be stopped through conventional medication or surgery. Your family physician will confirm this. When serious damage has already occurred, Biopuncture will be simply too late to reverse the damage and bring the body back into balance again. For example, a viral hepatitis can be treated with Biopuncture in order to support the healing mechanism of the body, but liver cirrhosis is a phase where cells are damaged beyond repair and healing is impossible. The same goes for chronic problems with the airways. Biopuncture can help a lot here as long as there is no emphysema or lung cancer involved. That is why it is so important to first have a conventional diagnosis before starting with Biopuncture. I advise you to ask your family physician for advice in case of doubt.
Conclusion
Biopuncture is a safe and efficient technique in complementary medicine. It uses biotherapeutic injections to stimulate the natural self-healing capacities of your body. It is worth considering if it can help you with your personal health problems. Consult your medical professional for more information about Biopuncture.
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The site above says that these Heel products are not really homeopathic dilutions (kind of false, as they are homeopathic dilutions, but in high concentrations)...
Exactly our discussion here... Once it gets diluted and succussed, it becomes homeopathic, in my opinion. I am having stronger reactions with the liver herbs D1 I diluted, stronger than when I take 'mother tincture'...
when my D1 bottle runs down to 10%, I'll redilute it to a D2 and see. I still have another undiluted one, that is how I keep comparing their effect.
one thing is 'true', in energetic tests, a D1 tests like mother tincture. But I don't need to wait even 1 minute to take the next thing. I wait about 10 seconds, then ingest the next herb or homeopathic. While, with D3 dilutions and above, the waiting time increases. The body needs more time to process the homeopathic dilution information, I suppose.
The dilutions you did with echinacea, Tracy, did they work?
I'm asking that because it gives me good ideas to dilute cats claw, noni, frozen garlic and other killers!!!! I gotta buy more 10 small bottles and do a witch dilution session sometime soon!!!
I wonder if I do too many experiments with homeopathics, if my body will not collapse, or my character will change forever to become a monster, or whatever....!!
I'm pretty sure there are too few experiences with dilutions of Chinese herbs or rain forest herbs...
Hey, another idea, mangosteen dilution! Imagine, you buy one bottle of mangosteen and have a stock for the next 10-20 years!
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Yes, Selma - I was very interested in the idea of ADDING tautopathic remedies and herbs to the liquid preparation of Bioplasma cell salts quite interesting myself.
My own experiments with Bioplasma alone were NOT what I expected - every time I take Bioplasma, my bowels slowly stop moving. Perhaps I should experiment to find a single cell salt to add to `balance' this problem in my case.
Yes, more and more homeopathic remedies are being made from existing vaccines, and it seems that more homeopaths are using them, especially those in the veterinary homeopathic field.
That's true, Selma - the electrolytes are minerals, also, just like the cell salts! One BIG difference, perhaps, is that cell salts are considered `inorganic salts', are they not? I'm not sure how that compares to other minerals needed in the body. Perhaps one is better at drawing out toxins than the other? Food for thought.
I did have a chance to look over some Sanum material sent to me by a friend awhile back..... my gosh, so many products! I haven't gotten into much beyond looking at products and what they contain. One can certainly see the `logic' behind the ingredients of most of the preparations.
Selma, I didn't see where that article said that the products were not `homeopathic'.... but I think they are!
I found this interesting: ``Let us be clear about it: Biopuncture cannot heal you from cancer, diabetes, a heart attack or AIDS. Nor is it an appropriate treatment for high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, Parkinson, depression or epilepsy. In some cases, the disease is too serious or too aggressive, and can only be stopped through conventional medication or surgery. Your family physician will confirm this. When serious damage has already occurred, Biopuncture will be simply too late to reverse the damage and bring the body back into balance again.''
Interesting that Fibro is not considered an appropriate ailment for this treatment.
Aren't the Sanum remedies also used as injections?
Re the Echinacea remedy: Of course, we would have to ask my cat since he is the one that took it! But I can tell you this - my cat reacted almost immediately to the first dose with so much energy and obvious well-being that I was a little concerned.
He had been recovering from a really ugly infection around his ear (treated only homeopathically, I might add), and was on his way to getting well anyway, but the Echinacea was like a jolt to his system. He began running up and down the hall, skittering sideways into the bathroom, then out again, launching himself sideways - the things you see kittens do - not a 13+ year old, normally-aloof, dignified feline! It was one of the rare times when he would chase and play with a little ball I rolled down the hall. Normally, he just watches the ball roll by, then looks at me as if to say, ``Was I supposed to be interested in that for some reason?'' LOL. Anyway, a few doses of that to finish up what other remedies had done to clear the infection were all he needed to be back to normal.
Selma, you are so funny - I don't envision you transforming yourself into someone else with homeopathic experiments..... so long as you `test' everything, of course!
I really LOVE this idea of ingesting low potencies of herbs, supplements, Noni, Xango, etc. This could be incredibly helpful to people who have lost some ability to assimilate what they take in - low-dose, potentized substances could change all that. Not to mention making things CHEAP, as you suggested!
Interesting that you should mention Uncaria Tomentosa - Cat's Claw - I noticed that it is listed in my Materia Medica (book of homeopathic remedies) written by Robin Murphy, the same guy who wrote the Tautopathy piece you read..... but no `symptoms' are given (probably because there has never been an official `proving'?). BUT, I just checked Ainsworths in London - they carry Uncaria -tomenosa in C potencies up to 30C, and LM potencies up to LM3! So, somebody out there is already using it homeopathically!
Here are the clinical indications (ailments that benefited from this substance) listed in my book for Uncaria-tom: AIDS, Arthritis, Asthma, Brain tumors, Cancer, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Poor circulation, Colitis, Crohn's disease, Exhaustion, Fibromyalgia, Enlarged prostate, Radiation poisoning, Ulcers, Virus effects, Weakness.
Pretty interesting, huh?
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