Is b henelae a type of bartonella? That mi9ght be a stupid ? but am so confused right now. And my brain can't take looking it up again and researching it.
My new Id doc is another douche bag!! That's the best word I can use without cursing. Anyway, he said my positive lyme test is false because I believe I contracted whatever I have in 93. So my results were positive on the western blot for IgM not IgG. He said if you had Lyme and for that log, your IgG would be positive. Is that true? Because I find cnflicting info on this matter.
Second he said my positive test for b. henselae must also be a false positive because I on't have fever and rash I think.
So does anyone have any input on this?
Thanks!
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But actually, more IgM blots are positive in chronic borreliosis than IgG. Every time Borrelia burgdorferi reproduces itself, it may stimulate the immune system to form new IgM antibodies.
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Bartonella Henselae is, indeed, a strain of Bartonella -- you are right.
Is there any way that you could consult with an LLMD on this? I would not accept the ID docs opinion on your test being a false positive.
Most other doctors don't have a clue how to diagnose or treat Bartonella, and Lyme, etc. etc.
Here is a link to the Bartonella Information Thread here on the Forum. There is lots of good information on it, including lists of symptoms, medical abstracts, articles, etc.
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This list, taken from the link above, does not necessarily represent all symptoms associated with Bartonella infections.
Also, one can still be heavily infected with Bartonella and Not have all the symptoms on the check lists. In other words, we don't have to check everything off the list in order to qualify for a Bart infection that requires treatment.
Bartonellosis
Common symptoms of bartonellosis include:
___Fatigue (often with agitation, unlike Lyme disease, which is more exhaustion)
___Low grade fevers, especially morning and/or late afternoon, often associated with feelings of "coming down with the flu or a virus"
___Sweats, often morning or late afternoon (sometimes at night) - often described as "thick" or "sticky" in nature
___Headaches, especially frontal (often confused with sinus) or on top of head
___Eye symptoms including episodes of blurred vision, red eyes, dry eyes
___Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) and sometimes hearing problems (decreased or even increased sensitivity - so-called hyperacusis)
___Sore throats (recurring)
___Swollen glands, especially neck and under arms
___Anxiety and worry attacks; others perceive as "very anxious"
___Episodes of confusion and disorientation that are usually transient (and very scary); often can be seizure-like in nature
___Joint pain and stiffness (often both Left and Right sides as opposed to Lyme which is often on one side only with pain and stiffness that changes locations)
___Muscle pains especially the calves; may be twitching and cramping also
___Foot pain, more in the morning involving the heels or soles of the feet (sometimes misdiagnosed as plantar fasciitis)
___Nerve irritation symptoms which can be described as burning, vibrating, numb, shooting, etc.
___Tremors and/or muscle twitching
___Heart palpitations and strange chest pains
___Episodes of breathlessness
___Strange rashes recurring on the body often, red stretch marks, and peculiar tender lumps and nodules along the sides of the legs or arms, spider veins
___Gastrointestinal symptoms, abdominal pain and acid reflux
___Shin bone pain and tenderness
Bartonella is a bacterium that causes illness, the most commonly known of which is a disease called "Cat Scratch Fever." Thousands of known cases of Bartonella occur in the U.S. each Year, with the vast majority of known cases due to bites from fleas that infest cats or infected dogs (may also occur directly from bites and scratches from infected dogs or cats). Bartonella can also be transmitted by ticks that transmit Lyme Disease. In fact, in a study published recently, deer ticks from New Jersey had a higher prevalence of Bartonella organisms than of Lyme organisms.
It is unclear whether the organism that we see transmitted along with Lyme disease is actually a Bartonella species (such as B. henselae or B. quintana) or is "Bartonella-Like Organism" (BLO) that is yet to be fully identified. While BLO has features similar to organisms in the Bartonella family, it also has features slimiar to the Mycoplasma and the Francisella (causes tularemia) families.
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I tested positive too this last spring. I haven't been able to treat it yet because I can't tolerate any of the meds used to treat it.
I tested positive after three years on antibiotics. So there must be just a few that work for it.
Hope you have better luck!!
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