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seekhelp
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Has anyone here used both? If so, does anyone feel dandelion is more useful / higher effectiveness than milk thistle? I had a blood pathologist highly recommend dandelion a while back.
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I've used both on and off.

In my 14 months of high abx use I have never had high liver function tests.

I buy the dandelion root in the herbal section of the health food store and make tea out of it and sip all day. Much cheaper than buying a boat load of dandelion tea in the bags.

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3 1/2 years treatment with oral combos, Cowden, IV roc. BW herbs. Off all abx in 12/10. Feeling good.

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I have some Dandelion capsules from Nature's Way. I may try that for a while to see if it helps more than Milk Thistle.
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my accupuncturist recommends dandelion for liver function and says that lab results verify it's effectiveness.
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Dandelion can be sometimes too strong. I could never tolerate it long term, only short term.

Milk thistle is by far the most used by people here in this board, even though it can cancel some remedies.

To my understanding, dandelion deals with pancreas too, while milk thistle is more dealing with liver toxicity.

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Dandelion might be VERY good. Caution: should not be combined with Rx diuretics and is not recommended for people with gallstones/biliary tract obstruction.

Dandelion acts as a diuretic. Cleanses the blood and liver, and *increases bile production*. *Reduces serum cholesterol* and uric acid levels. Improves functioning of the kidneys, pancreas, spleen and stomach. Relieves menopausal symptoms. Useful for abscesses, anemia, boils, breast tumors, cirrhosis of the liver, constipation, fluid retention, hepatitis, jaundice and rheumatism. Believed to help prevent age spots and breast cancer.

The above is from the book, "Prescription for Nutritional Healing" by Phyllis A. Balch.

Plus, I often wondered about St. John's Wort:

http://www.answers.com/topic/hypericin

and also Limonene...a monoterpenoid.

For whatever reason...H16 = 16 hydrogens matters. It is also the "group" of vascular diseases and Bb does initially look to impact the cells that line our blood vessels.

I have a list of 20+ things that have "H16" in their chemical formulas...ATP, Rocephin, etc.

It is the ARRANGEMENT of the hydrogen in the chemical formulas that matters...what element is attached to another element and where and how (by how many bonds)that influences HOW it works in the body.


Example:
If you and I had 100 building blocks and we each built something (which looked different) and a big storm came up and your's held up and mine didn't, it was because of the WAY YOU arranged those "building blocks".

The ARRANGEMENT dictates the use (and strength).

The basic building blocks are: H, C, O, and N.

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Dear Marnie,
According to your information, I would probably not do well on dandelion. I had my gallbladder out. Should you use only milk thistle if you have had your gallbladder removed?
I am worried there is a bile duct issue, because I get pain there still and even numbness. What do you think? By the way, thank you for posting all of this wonderful information!

Sincerely,
Jin

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Marnie
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You can still have stones form in the common bile duct - even when the GB is removed. They are very painful.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Gastroenterology/Gall-stones-without-gall-bladder/show/883870

http://www.jacn.org/cgi/reprint/23/6/745S.pdf

and:

"In order to prevent the occurrence of serious post-cholecystectomy side-effects, operated patients need to make drastic lifestyle and dietary changes. They should limit the intake of saturated fat and avoid the consumption of alcoholic beverages. Also, they should eat smaller amounts of food during a single meal. People who have had gall bladder removal surgery are advised to eat around 5 or 6 smaller meals a day instead of 2 or 3 usual meals.

Considering the fact that the organism is unable to completely absorb important nutrients without the help of the gall bladder, operated patients also need to take vitamin and mineral supplements and ***bile salts*** to aid the process of digestion."

http://ezinearticles.com/?Permanent-Post-Cholecystectomy-Undesirable-Effects&id=282342

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