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Hi Has anyone bought this? Just wondering what the main points were in the update for treatment?
I've been through the usual Babesia regimens with well respected LLMD's - but still have Babs!
Just wondering if this book has any new ideas or solutions?
Thanks for any info Emma (UK)
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I bought this update along with the original book.
To be honest with you, I have a difficult time with my memory and I can not remember what he said.
I use these books as references mostly and go to them to specifically look up things that pop into my head.
I will look and see if any new information is in the update and let you know.
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Hi Emma, I have bought the book and it is very good. I don't have the original book only the update 2009 so can't compare it.
I'm being treated for babs at the moment too. How do you know if the treatment has worked or not?
My babs meds are mepron, azithromicin, Septrin.
Recently I read that without septrin added to the above a percentage fails. So my LLMD has just added it.
I don't have the book here but I can recommend it.
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Is Septrin the same thing as Septra or Bactrim?
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I agree that the information in his books is well worth the price. It often positions us to ask questions that our doctors may not have thought about.
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Hi Tickbattler!
Below is the describtion of the correct formula you need to take.This below is the one that My test will come positive as well.( it has TRIMETHOPRIM -sulfamethoxazole)in it .
----Bactrim and Septra are brand names for an antibiotic treatment. This combined antibiotic treatment is known as trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole.-----
Malarone comes even more efective as MEPRON ( even though adding a few spoon of mepron in there will make it even stronger).Malarone seems to reach the cyst deep in the bone -skull.
Ading coptis and artemisia in it will make it way more efective but you need higher dosages to get the job done in a few weeks and not years!!!
Seems like coptis really does a great job on the liver .Coptis reaches CYST and Artemisia FREE form of babs and protozoa bug .Seems that most people have both of the bugs BABS and protozoa and the combo takes care of both at the same time.
Lower dosages will reach only internal organs not exstremeties.To clean them WELL..you need to be on higher dosages and reach to scrape them well and get rid of them from -face , eyes , frontal lobe , forehead , teeth , in mollars deeper ,cheecks , deep in TMJ ear channels towards your neck ( where the bugs are and create tightnees and chocking feeling ), hands , feets ,calf from all the bugs.
Seem that they love the deeper places and hang in there.YOU NEED TO REACH THEM AND GET THEM there in CYST form .
I also find that many cyst remain around the heart tissues...even though they are not in blood.Will see how long will take to get rid off the cyst in heart muscle where they live.I wonder if some here KEEP saying that they have killed BABS but some cyst have remained in there due to the fact that the BUG has been in their BODY for decades like in my case.
It seems that MY divergens that is almost gone SEEMS to be in my heart as CYST so far.Will see...time will tell.This exsplains the anxiety that I had inspite of beeing very functional and atletic decades ago.It was laying dormant in the liver and loving my heart.
This also exsplains my POTS as the first symtoms I have had for decades and me passing out and having a BLOOD preasure droping in a moment...MAKES sense.
I wonder if they still have some bugs left in the heart tissues left and they still think is LYME?
I garanty that in my case is NOT lyme , is not bart, is not muco , is not brucella and is not ehrlichia..that is why I can tell the diference.I am dealing with 3 babs and protozoa.
ALL of them HAVE CYST .I also see that once you put them in CYST form you feel energetic.You feel like you over it .MOst of symtoms go away.
WRONG !You are loaded in cyst .They will regroup.Also when you test artemisin will show YOU DO NOT NEED anymore.ACTUALLY yes as you have cyst and a few free form that the body can handle and gives you no symtoms .MY dosages OF artemisin has droped drasticly ( taking 15-17 a day) and COPTIS of zhang has REACHED 8 a day .
And inspite of symtoms , chills, gone, twithcing , 99% gone , vibrations 99% gone , numbnees gone calf pain , gone a few itchennes in my shoulders( they love shoulder) and some pain in my face -where they infected my teeths...etc...they are still there.
DUNCANI seems the strongest to resist and the cyst is VERY HIGH .30% high enough in all organs to regroup if I stop now.The rest is still hanging but getting weaker and letting go some of the organs.
TRUE micul said ..check your hands blood in microscop and you will still find babs.NOt in the big veins -where you drwo blood as you will not find it.It seems due to the treatment -you can reduce it enough from the liver and does not show in blood test...but you are wrong to think is gone.IS not!!!!
I am not ok to live in harmony with BABS!!!THIS BUG COMES BACK VERY FAST and have seen it in the last 3 years comming back .Now I will not give it a chance!!!Exsploring and testing more herbs to find what can really do some further damage to them .
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Leelee - thanks! let me know if you find anything interesting
PV - Successful Babs treatment means the Babs subset of symptoms goes away...for me some neuro stuff/buzzing, migraines, tachycardia, underarm or night sweats and chills/cold shivery skin. It can go dormant then return. It depends on the strain and how strong your immune system is.
I have taken the Septrin with Mepron and Azith, Artemesia for months and still it came back...I either have a bad strain or something else ! I do have protozoal forms in my blood tho but don't test positive in a Babs FISH test.
ALV Were you on 17 100mg Artemisinin or Artemesia a day with Malarone and Coptis to get symptoms down? Please clarify?
(8 Coptis I think I could handle as 6 is normal dose!)
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I meant 17 ARTEMISIN ( from Dr Z) ..check is even higher.... 1 pill carries 400 mg artemisia anua and a couple of other things...I do beilive that the exrta thing that I have is a protozoa...AND I got it in EUROPE!!!
Suki how many years did you have it.THE SYMTOMS that you mentioned above used to be assymtomatic for me 10 years ago while in EUROPE. I will Pm you !
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"Malarone comes even more efective as MEPRON" This is confusing, I think you mean:
"Malarone comes even more efective than MEPRON "
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YES was a typo..YES I meant MALARONE comes UP as more efetive THAN MEPRON .Mepron did not kill the babs that MY SON had and he was in 1 year on it 2 years ago.
I have been answering and helping people with their kids all day long and I was not caring of proof reading.
I guess radfaraf you have all the time for yourself.Lucky you !I can not ignore when kids are sick !!!
So beside herxing myself...have tried to come in here.
Also this is your own native language and should not be a problem for you to be so confused on a typo like that.It is not mine though!!!!
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I wonder. My mother came to the states from Slovaikia, Greece and Turkey. She was 16 and had my brother at 18 and me at 20. I have always felt I was borne with something wrong. I was a sick baby and child and through high school. Illness and infections and allergies and all sorts of stuff. She has not been well either with things and now cancer and it just seems we are always dealing with health problems. I guess it could be genetic to. I guess it doesnt matter unless it help you track down the infections so you can treat it.?
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It is funny that you mentioned Springshower.I found yesterday a study about the vector illnesses from many coutries.
I found out that from national park in Italy in november 2008 were found that the ticks that are in that park in the animals ...carried , ehrlichia , tularemia( no kidding ) burgdoferi , garini mostly , ricketsia....
also many other coutries in Slovania and up in yougoslavia have had TICK borne illnesses....I think babesia is very spread..and people have bart there and they do not know about it either.
Just had a person from EUROPE that came over here ( family reason to visit) that was having a project for TICK -borne illneeses.She has a PHD and she knew so much about it.
BUt she is ONLY one person in the entire state.How many people can she warn.NO body beilives...even her.Yes they have started realising that is a problem.RMSF is over there as well.
Also most doctors in GERMANY are not aware of that.A few know about it.They are not aware of the problem and the treatment that people need and coinfections that exist .
What happens there is that they treat you with antibiotics until your immune gets back to track but you never treat all coinfections.
That is what happened to me when I was 20 .And over the years ...the symtoms were increased.
Getting back and recalling all the event was major in my treatment.This is the only way that I could find what else was there that I have been exsposed since a kid and that is how I knew that they need to be treated as well .
Ironicly when lyme becomes active ..everything that you have been exsposed as a kind , let say a type of fever ( or sick for a week and two) ..was there in dormant state ..never really left the body ..and exsploded all over again once the lyme came into place .
Consider like you have all the disesease at the same time .. once lyme activates...from head to toe....than all viruses , herpes , parasites even everything else will multiply by 10 fold thanks TO LYME comming into picture.
Yes they are every where ...but the coinfections and the strains that are in USA are way more stronger...than the EUROPEAN strains...except GARINI that is not fun either ( as it goes right to the brain ) as it did in my case...and have had no problems physicly whatsoever...and you can not even understand how sneaky is as it grows slowly and you have no idea about the changes that are happening to you ...until will exsplode -if you are lucky you will survive..
Had a mothers friend that was complaining -could not raise her arms..within a year her borrelia exsploded and ended up with tumor ..died within a year.She alsways used to say that she had an neuro episode like 25 years ago and and went slowly away as she fought it her way ( ignoring and beeing strong -she had a strong caracter)...but slowly sneaked in her and she did not tell anybody about her memory issues.
I recall her tightness on her jaw , teeth issues , red eyes...and shoulder pain...and arthritis in her hands .
She was ambarased to admit.I am sure she was reinfected when was planting vegies in the garden.She was already a tick bomb ready to exsplode.
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Yikes.. Yeah ALV there is a lot to think about. You really have done your homework.
What is the red eyes from? Do you know? I have been having them on my current treatment and never before. It is weird and with eye pain of my whole eye ball and behind the eyes etc. It is getting better as I continue to treat but I never understood it.
I bet you could fill me in for sure.
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I got the book. I will have to reread it based on what all was said above. What I got out of this update was that it will be very difficult to get rid of babesia. I have now switched my son to Zhangs artemesia.... 3/day. He is also using bactrim biaxin and mepron. Finally herxing. Has b. duncani, bartonella & lyme.
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Red eyes are due to the inflamation for not beeing treated ( mostly babs DUNCANI in my case now) and ..than also due to HERX reaction.
NOw that I am herxing I am 75% toxic over all and bugs are just 25% but my eyes are more red than ever.So for my son when he treated babesia as the very first treatment.It is beeing toxic from the drugs and DIE OFF!!!!
I do sauna daily and they help but eyes...are hard to reach or detox..that is the worst part ...ALSO as you know when you kill babs you are not suposed to take binders they are a NO NO.You even take TONS of them before and than continue 2 months after.THE TOXINS of babs dies off are horrible..
If you are killing bart -than it is reaching behind the eye balls--that is usully bart and vise versa when you kill babs bart is beeing released and tryes to take place.IT is funny how this TWO BUGS take turn and usully where is one the other is behind it.
They kind like to be on the same place that they HAVE DIGGED in and created colonies and if you get another infection this is the place that the other infection will continue to locate.They keep each other close and they communikate...SMART bugs hee...they try to survive...
This is what I see when I reach one..and the other ones showes on the exct painful spot...right below the other that was just killed...it is never one bug..but eyeball and behind the eyes..is definitly bart .
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Did Dr. S say coptis for cysts and the locations of the cysts in the body or is that from your testing, Alv?
I'm not sure how he would know that. I can see with energetic testing.
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No Brussels refered to me COPTIS and I tested very high on it..over time I tested from 4 up to 10 a day while artemisin tested high in the begining and lower later...so as you put some into cyst you still need to kill them.
YES NO BINDERS on BABS TREATMENT.A BIG NO.After you need to use colesteramin to bind the neurotoxins.the toxins from killing BABS are s bad as LYME -awful.I felt like DUMMY this 4 weeks.Have had to have a 1/2 day break.Hope I can endure it.It is very strong so my 3 strains of babs.
Logicly you try to increase the dosages of whatever you take in the body and liver so it kills the bugs otherwise you will have to start over again.
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The orginal babs book by Dr Schaller said Mepron is MORE effective than Malarone. Now you guys have me confused.
My doctor has me on Mepron.
She also has me on Welchol which is a biotoxin and neurotoxin binder and I am on ACZ Nano which is a metals binder.
This post is making me very confused.
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I just looked at the book. Schaller says the proguanil portion may be better at working on babesia... than the mepron portion of malarone. He adds that proguanil is not available in US by itself.
I did not think you could take too many malarone at a time because there was a limit of the amt of proguanil that was recommended.
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