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mina222
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is it ok to take olive leaf extract and grapefuit seed extract with the 4,000mg of amoxicillin i'm already taking daily?

I was thinking of adding these.. I am also taking b-complex and vit. D and AZO yeast.

if so do they need to be spaced out or anything? thanks [Smile]

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on page 2; anyone?
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I've read that olive leaf extract must not be taken with antibiotics; they conflict.

I don't have time to look it up right now.

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I take OLE 2-3 hours after my antibiotic. My LLMD told me it was OK. Can't comment on the Grapeseed extract.
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It depends upon the source of the antibiotic, it seems. If an abx is produced from yeast / fungus, the OLE might go after it, thinking it's a fungus ?

I think that is what this says, but I really have to go rest now.

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http://www.prohealthsolutions.com/productdetails28.html

Olive Leaf Extract

Excerpt:

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Are there any contraindications with Olive Leaf Extract?


No contraindications with other drugs have been observed. However, Olive Leaf Extract should not be taken with antibiotics produced from yeast / fungus or along with additional amino acids other than those received in your everyday foods. They might cross out each other's effectiveness.

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- Full article at link above.

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I also have taken OLE, just not at the same time as an abx. My opinion is that you can take them both together, but spaced about 3 hours apart from your antibiotic.


Taking OLE when I was on doxy prevented any trouble with candida at all. It was nearly a miracle.

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The type my ND recommended that worked so well for me was MYROLEA B. Most naturopathic doctors and acupuncturists know about the Seven Forest formulas.

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http://www.acuatlanta.net/myroleab-tablets-p-22018.html

Manufacturer: White Tiger

Name: Myrolea-B

Myrolea-B is also known as: Olive leaf extract with Chinese herbs


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http://chineseherbs.net/article_info-articles_id-2.html


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http://www.itmonline.org/arts/flu.htm

Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.


The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.


Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.


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A history of this formula:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/shuang.htm


SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine - 2003


Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .


. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.


Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.


In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.


. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,


. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."


It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."


- full article at link above.

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I took OLE and Abx. I like OLE. It increased my body temps and seemed to help energy. I herxed too I believe.

I ran out and need to make tough choices about how much stuff to shove down my throat. lol. Endless supplements aren't the answer when you can't bring in $$$ working. Most seem to come out the other end. lol.

I may use OLE for candida prevention though as it has good attributes and is tolerable. I never used GSE..sorry.

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I also took OLE and GSE during my daily protocol. I didnt take it at the same time as my abx though. My LLMD said it was ok too.

I think the OLE and GSE did make a difference in keeping candida in check as well. I used them in my antifungal rotation.

But if you are concerned, give your dr. a call.

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Can you tell me where I can find a list of abx that are produced from yeast or fungus?

Kathy

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