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I love lemon, but I have had to start avoiding it because of stomach upset/pain. Will I still get detox benefits if I take stomach meds and drink it?
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Lemon can be helpful but if your stomach can't handle it, there are many other ways. Anyway, lemon is not the full force protection that some supplements can offer. Milk Thistle is the best liver support that helps your body detoxify without pushing it too harshly but it also can protect in ways that lemon cannot.
Some "stomach meds" are not all that good for the stomach. What are you taking as "stomach meds"? DGL is really the best. A gluten-free diet also really helps the stomach.
. . . Individual variations in our cytochrome P40 enzymes help to demystify why there are so many variations in how we respond to drugs and herbs. . . .
The important thing to remember is that the liver is a hot (metabolically active) organ, and so tends to get congested and inflamed.
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Protection
Turmeric root, wheat sprouts, schisandra berries, amla fruit, beet root and milk thistle seed are among the major sources of protective anti-oxidants for the liver cells, as are fruits that contain flavonoids, especially citrus fruits.
These should be used to prevent development of inflammatory disease, or for damage protection as in the case of persons taking strong chemical drugs or undergoing chemotherapy.
Deficiency
The liver can become weakened and deficient. If this is not corrected, it can lead to liver atrophy and depletion of glycogen stores, even hepatitis. Signs include fatigue, low blood pressure, hypoglycemia, dry eyes, headache, heat symptoms and irritability . . . .
Heat and Inflammation
To remove excess liver inflammation with heat signs or toxins . . . .
Pain
If there is liver inflammation with signs of pain and tension, use herbs that calm the liver and move the blood . . . .
If milk thistle is not on your plan, NAC might be considered:
This, from a protocol for Chlamydia Pneumonia (Cpn) which is a similar chronic stealth infection. This treatment protocol is also similar to that of chronic lyme.
This is what one of the protocol authors says about the power of NAC to help protet the liver:
. . . "Surprisingly, the only anti-chlamydial agent that did not cause hepatitis in some patients was NAC. In fact, NAC is recognized as being protective.
My conclusion is that NAC should be the first agent in an anti-chlamydial regimen and should be a constant part of the therapy for this protective effect, not to mention it's effect against elementary bodies.
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Keebler, I have been gluten free over a year (LIFESAVER!!!), but certain things do still give me reflux problems........as a whole I stay away from these things, but I know lemons are good for you.........what about limes?
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If lemons cause you problems, most likely, all citrus fruit will also bother you (grapefruit, oranges, lemons and limes). The DGL will help but I suggest avoiding all citrus for a while. It can be rather caustic to the tender lining of the G.I. system.
If you miss the taste of lemon, a few squirts on your fish may be fine, though.
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Sometimes it is reflux symptoms, but more often than not, it is truly pain, like my stomach is raw and the acid in the citrus is gnawing at my stomach lining (if that makes sense).
Years ago, I was having some severe stomach issues, and so I had an EGD done, and I had severe gastritis and duodenitis.....the pics were not pretty.
The GI doc told me then that I would probably always have to take an H2 blocker. Fortunately, I don't have near the trouble that I did, but I have made MAJOR dietary adjustments.
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Just is just one of several similar products out there. DGL has saved the life of my stomach and can stop reflux within a minute.
Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice, also known as de-glycyrrhizinated licorice, or commonly referred to by the acronym DGL, is typically used as an herbal supplement in the treatment of gastric and duodenal ulcers. It is made from licorice from which the glycyrrhizin has been removed.
The usual dosage is 760 mg, chewed, 20 minutes before a meal. Studies of DGL in humans and animals against placebos showed that DGL significantly reduced the size of gastric ulcers and hastened healing, with 44% of the subjects obtaining complete healing, as opposed to 6% of the control group.
DGL has also been found to be an effective treatment for duodenal ulcers. In another study a group of 40 patients who had duodenal ulcers for 4-12 years were treated with 3 grams of DGL a day for 8 weeks, or 4.5 grams a day for 12 weeks, with all subjects showing vast improvement, with the higher dosage being the most significant.
An additional study shows that DGL's therapeutic effect is equal to the effect of cimetidine (Tagamet).
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There are no known drug interactions with drugs used to treat ulcers. In Europe, South Africa, and Canada, DGL is marketed in a medicinal preparation called Caved-S. In the U.S., DGL is marketed as a herbal supplement.
DGL has also been reported to help treat aphthous ulcers (canker sores).[1]
WHAT IT DOES: Licorice root is sweet in taste and cooling in action. It detoxifies poisons from the blood and liver, and reduces general inflammation and pain.
It moistens and heals the lungs and digestive tract.
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Almost 50 years ago, a scientist by the name of Revers reported that licorice paste reduced abdominal symptoms and caused radiographic evidence of ulcer healing.
However, about 20% of patients developed edema, headache and other symptoms due to overdose, leading to a loss of enthusiasm (Schambelan, 1994).
This led to the development of DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice), a form of licorice that does not contain the agents responsible for the side effects such as electrolyte changes.
The de-acidified DGL tablet or capsule form used in Europe and America is therefore devoid of any major side effects, and is effective for healing the intestinal membranes.
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