Topic: What is difference between Pectasol Chelation Complex & Detox Complete?
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Hello,
I'm desperately trying to get ready for a big detox, as my Lyme is in remission, but I'm absolutely toxic with everything you can think of, including various metals. The Chlorella is causing havoc with my stomach & bowels, even with digestive enzymes, so I thought I'd try the Pectasol product(s).
A couple of questions for those of you in the know:
1. What is the difference between the Chelation Complex and the Detox Complete?
2. Does one, or both bind metals?
3. For those of you who've taken either of the Pectasols, how did your stomach react?
Any and all insights are appreciated.
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I don't know what detox complete is can you tell us what this product contains? It sounds like a commercial mixture of some kind. But pectasol itself is really good to use along with another chelator like DMSA or DMPS or possibly even cilantro. It traps metals knocked loose in the blood and carries them out of the body. Some of the commercial products combine argine with the pectasol I think.. It is just an amino acid that helps with metal cleanup somehow is all I know.
The best deal on pectasol I found was the straight pectasol powder from ecogenics.
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Thanks pryorka. Appreciate the insights. I don't want to use a chelator yet, as I have plenty of loose stuff floating around. (Wanted to use the cilantro/chlorella combo, but is just too hard on my tummy.) Much thanks again.
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I had not seen Detox Complete before but it looks good. I just ordered a bottle to try. Pectasol is just a binder - a good one. The Detox Complete has many items to support detoxification.
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quote:Originally posted by SForsgren: I had not seen Detox Complete before but it looks good. I just ordered a bottle to try. Pectasol is just a binder - a good one. The Detox Complete has many items to support detoxification.
Hiya Scott, my now and future A.I. buddy!
Good info to know from someone who's doing A.I. Not sure I want to chelate anything once A.I. starts; just want to clean up for a while. Curious though, what is the chelation element used in the Complex you just ordered, can you tell, cuz I couldn't?
Think I'll order the Pectasol powder for now, then, later after all blockages have cleared, will order the Chelation or Detox Complex. Let me know how this goes with you; the chlorella route tears my stomach up too bad.
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Hi Ping,
I have Pectasol CC [actually mine is Jarrow Formulas' Toxguard Heavy Metal Detox, which is the same as PCC only cheaper].
I have used it a bit and have it ready for the metals stage of AI.
Everything I've read about Detox Complete emphasises that it is an aggressive chelator, only to be used as a secondary stage after and with PCC.
It doesn't sound as if you would be ready yet for Detox Complete, especially as you haven't completed Stage 1, ie Pectasol CC.
With your starting AI shortly, perhaps you need more of a binder than an aggressive chelator that could stir things up at an inappropriate time.
Scott has done a LOT of detox already and is much further on in the AI rounds, so Detox Complete may suit him better than you at this time.
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PCC is pectasol which is a binder for many toxins and metals. I think of it as more of a binder than a mobilizer. It should generally not stir up too many new issues.
The Detox Complete has many items to support liver, kidney, increase glutathione, mobilize metals, etc.
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Hello ukcarry and again to Scott.
I agree that I don't want to go into actual chelation yet because of the A.I. and the fact that I still have amalgams. I've decided on the Pectasol powder as a simple binder.
Question I posted to GiGi is whether I should actually take the binder during A.I. tx.
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My doctor has had me on this combo (Pectasol Chelation Complete and Detox Complete) for nearly one year now.
I tolerate it very well and am doing very well.
I detox very poorly, per a gene test, and will probably take these products the rest of my life along with glutathione.
I have not experienced any negative side effects.
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quote:Originally posted by luvs2ride: I detox very poorly, per a gene test, and will probably take these products the rest of my life along with glutathione. Luvs
Hi Luvs - Good info to know for when I begin chelation. Since you say you detox poorly because of genetics, have you considered the A.I. treatment? I also have genetic blockages that prevent me from detoxing a lot of things and Allergie-Immun looks very promising. I will be starting it as soon as the treatment arrives in the mail. (I'm not on abx and am stopping all supps, with the possible exception of pectin powder... Want a couple more opinions before I order.)
If you're interested, you can read the 600+ posts in the thread called, "Allerie-Immun Germany" by ericaf.
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Good to know, Luvs2ride.
Have you always taken the 2 together or did you start with Pectasol CC?
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Hi Ping,
Glad you are starting for the moment with the Pectasol powder.
I get the impression from people further down the line than us with AI that we may KNOW when the metals are releasing [perhaps not on round 1].
I'm saving binders for the moment until I feel I need them.
I'm on day 6 of Round 1 and on a daily basis am taking thyroid med [tiny bit in view of my recent crisis], magnesium [eves], digestive enzymes [eves] and probiotics +Candida Yeast Management, vegEPA + occasional one-offs in view of the serious heart symptoms.
I have so far stopped abx, and many other supplements +herbs.
It's a moveable feast though, so may adapt to circumstance!
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PCC is more of a binder than other chelators, although the company claims it chelates. Unlike other types of pectin which stay in the gut, this "modified version goes into the bloodstream. It is a good idea to use both kinds...I use glucomannan mainly for the gut
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Thanks joey & ukcarry.
carry - As with you, I'm not altogether sure what to expect from A.I. and am playing it by ear also. When you say that people often "feel" the metals moving and I'm not sure how to process this statement. Any particular feelings that would let me know this is happening? I've heard that the eyes dry or crust, but not sure what else. Anyway, I'm sticking with non-chelating agents until AI is done.
Glad to hear that you're off abx now. Are you in remission, or is that by choice in order to do AI? I'm also taking thyroid (Armour), Coreg (for hypertension) and Furosemide (for edema in my legs). That's all the rx's I'm taking and not sure what I should do once I start A.I., so will just take as little of them as possible.
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