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Jasmin
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I was bit in Vancouver, Canada. Are there some coinfections that are more common than others in this area?

I know I need to be tested, but that's down the road. I still have 2 more kids to test, and possibly an igenex test.


Thanks.

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Hi Jasmin,

I don't know the answer to your question; but, I will say I got infected in WA State and that particular critter carried Lyme + every co-infection possible; I've tested + for all of them.

Also, my LLMD, who practiced in CT for several years and is now in the NW, wonders if some of the NW strains are even more virulent, just speculation on her part I think. Good luck. TS

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Jasmin
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Thanks for the info, tickssuck. [Smile]

I hope someone else has more to share.

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I may have got lyme on the east coast, but got something else later in far northern california that wreaked havoc. No positive tests but my LLMD and I thought bartonella or something simular.

I did a 4 month heavy duty tx for bart and got rid of it Whatever it was. It effected my bones, meningitis, and possibly heart. There are at least 2 bartonella species on the west coast that there are no commercial tests for. One is elizabethea which might be much more common than they think- was found in Seattle and LA.... and I forget the other one (It's obscure).

Or it could have been brucelosis or ??? I really don't know. If you're curious do a search here in the forum for;

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bartonella doxy zithromax OR azithromycine rifampin

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There are various strains of the coinfections that are more common in various parts of the U.S.

This may be the same in Canada.

For that reason, the Igenex form shows various test panels based on the eastern part of the U.S. or the western part.

See their test form to see the difference in the tests:

http://www.igenex.com/request.doc

The babesia duncani used to be called WA-1 which stands for Washington State, case #1. Duncani is much more difficult to get rid of than babesia microti which is what most people on the east coast get.

However, there are east coast ticks with duncani.

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Jasmin
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Whoa, caat... I had no clue they knew so much about the bugs they can't test for.

(I'm trying to edit this to say what I mean but I can't! I don't make sense tonight!)

I'm glad you got better. [Smile]


Thanks, TF, for the link. I didn't know about WA-1 being more difficult... I actually didn't know about it at all until tonight. [Smile]


I wonder how I should bring this subject up with my doctor. He's kind of an LLMD in training. [Smile]

Back to edit again. My doctor does know about coinfections... and I know I need an ILADS trained LLMD. [lol]

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thanks Jasmin

>>>He's kind of an LLMD in training.

who's he training with? or who's literature is he reading? Ask him to confer with them or call an organization for advice on clinical diagnosis.

B. elizabethea was found in a whole bunch of homeless people in Seattle and LA.... once they start finding it in wealthy people or at least middle class people they will start thinking about taking it seriously... They think it may be contracted by rat fleas. But if so maybe cat fleas could pass it as well. Or even ground squirrel fleas, who knows? If there are any cats with it in veterinary literature then it's probley very likely.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12030392

Scand J Infect Dis. 2002;34(3):192-6.


Prevalence of antibodies to Bartonella henselae, B. elizabethae and B. quintana in Swedish domestic cats.

Excerpts:

Sera from 292 cats were analyzed by means of indirect immunofluorescence for antibodies to Bartonella henselae, B. quintana and B. elizabethae. The sera were sent to the Swedish National Institute of Veterinary Medicine . . . .
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The prevalence of antibodies to B. elizabethae was higher in the south of Sweden than in the north, with the highest prevalence (46%) being found in cats living in the Stockholm region.

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www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_010108_health_toxic_fungus.727ffcfc.html#


Toxic fungus moving into Oregon, causing illness & death

08:45 AM PST on Tuesday, January 1, 2008

AP

EUGENE, Ore. -- It sounds like a bad B movie, a toxic fungus in the woods of the Pacific Northwest drifting into peoples' lungs, causing illness and death.


But cryptococcus gattii is out there and has affected a handful of Oregonians, most recently a Junction City woman hospitalized for more than four months this fall.


In the Northwest it was first detected on Vancouver island in 1999, where it has sickened about 180 residents and killed eight, said Karen Bartlett, associate professor of environmental health at the University of British Columbia. The disease is still rare.

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- full article at link above.

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babesia duncani is pretty common now in the east as well. My son and my neighbor have both tested positive for it.

Our LLMD said he sees it a lot in PA where we live.

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