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wendihk
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My homeopathic practioner mentioned that her partner uses a rife machine and would like me to try it.

The problem is that I am some distance away but she said that after an initial visit it could be done by phone.

Has anyone ever heard of this?

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What??? I don't think so.

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That's what I said.

How could that possibly work?

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Energy medicine can work at a distance. Remote healing (Reiki)definitely works. Rife works with frequencies, so it may be possible.

I would be very interested to hear more about what the practioner says,

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Rife is radio frequency - each number is a specific frequency. I'm not sure how that would work over the phone but ask them for more details and also for information so that you can better evaluate before you commit.


Actually, in the long run, it would be cheaper to get a rife if you are paying for the phone appointments. Then you have that forever - at your own convenience and for others to use, too.


I have hesitation as to if the radio frequency coming just through an ear piece of the phone can be done at all and, if so, how that will affect your body.


How do they get around the frequency that the phone itself emits? And is the individual phone used a concern? Say, you have one model but might it vary from someone else's model? Does your carrier matter?


I assume it would have to be a land-lined phone.


Will that zap your ear or your brain. I think we have to be very careful with anything we use near our brain. However, would the phone be held to your chest or other part of your body?


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After you find out the specifics of the tool or technique for phone use, you might contact Bryan Rosner about his opinion. He's written a very good book about rife and lyme. He also is still very active in this area.


http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner

2004 - neither "phone" nor "telephone" appear in the index

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http://www.youtube.com/

Search You Tube: Rosner, Rife - for some of his presentations

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Some people who have pacemakers can call in and use their phone for diagnostics at a distance. I don't know what kind of frequency this requires but it is does show that energy can be transported via phone lines. the question would be is that radio frequency or electrical energy? Or is is just from other pitch and sound vibrations or magnetic impulses?

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I had an appointment for a type of lazer therapy out of state a few weeks ago. For personal reasons I had to cancel my appointemnt.

The doctor called me back and said that there was another practitioner who could do the treatment over the phone. I asked her how that was possible and she said, "Well, it's really hard to explain, but he sends human wavelengths across state lines..."

I kinda tuned her out after that. I consider myself to be pretty open-minded, but the buck stops there. If people could send "human wavelengths" over the phone to heal, we'd all be well. I'll have to pass on that one...

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Walk away from this dubious method of frequency delivery.

Buy your own machine if hers works for you when using it in person, not over the phone. it will be cheaper in the long run, and effective.

If she has a decent device it should work, and you will be able to tell if it works.

Dan

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I'm glad Dan came along to offer his thoughts on this.

I think you can feel very confident in his remarks. He's read a lot about rife - has experience - and has offered some very good posts for a long time, even explaining some very complex details to me.

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Sorry, that sounds way too out there to me!

People use desparate, vunerable people to try and pull scams like this on.

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Windihk:

you said you see a homeopathic practitioner. Is s/he ILADS educated, fully knowledgeable about lyme and coinfections?

It's important to find out how much s/he knows about the infection and the way it works. Homeopathy can be very helpful but, as a primary mode of treatment, it is seldom enough (and then only if very early on and if the person is very lucky).

How long have you had lyme?

Are you also getting other treatment that specifically addresses the infection, not just "getting your body stronger"?

Of the homeopathics, I assume you are taking Ledum. What number is behind that? How often?

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I will send you contact details for the EMEM-5a Rife that I have.

You may also want to acquaint yourself with these books. I am a bit concerned about the homeopathic practitioner. S/he may be just fine, great even. But many underestimate lyme and many are undereducated in this area.

Of course, like I say, yours may be fine but you may want to find out more. If you are being drawn to more natural ways to treat lyme, in addition to rife, here are some good authors in this area. But, first, you must be fully aware of the ILADS guidelines so as all your bases are covered.

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This explains WHY you need an ILADS LLMD or ILADS LL ND (naturopathic doctor) -- or ILADS-educated Homeopathic specialist:


www.clinicaladvisor.com/Controversy-continues-to-fuel-the-Lyme-War/article/117160/

CONTROVERSY CONTINUES TO FUEL THE "LYME WAR" - 2007 (author's details at link)


" . . .To treat Lyme disease for a comparable number of life cycles, treatment would need to last 30 weeks. . . ."


"...If all cases were detected and treated in the early stages of Lyme disease, the debate over the diagnosis and treatment of late-stage disease would not be an issue, and devastating rheumatologic, neurologic, and cardiac complications could be avoided..."

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- Full article at link above.

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links to treatment:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html

ILADS Treatment Guidelines


and

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

Sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.


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http://www.lymepa.org/html/dr__j__burrascano_september_20_15.html


Burrascano's Powerpoint presentation 9-20-08

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)

Four pages

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Chapter 44 tells how she got better. Your library may have this book:

Cure Unknown: Inside the Lyme Epidemic (2008) - by Pamela Weintraub

This details what an entire family went through. Having this knowledge of their journey will help others to get better, faster treatment.

http://www.cureunknown.com

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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:


http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)


THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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http://tinyurl.com/5drx94


Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org and use "clinic" and then "clinic" for the passwords or call Hepapro through www.hepapro.com

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http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg


Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

web site options: www.gaianstudies.org/lyme-updates.htm

[email protected]

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Aid_Buhner/?yguid=166917351

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www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lymenutritionfile1_files/Integrated-Approach-DAN.pdf


HEALING LYME DISEASE: An Integrated Approach to Curing Chronic Infection


Daniel A. Kinderlehrer, M.D. (2004)


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http://www.dancingviolets.com/media/pdf/LymeDisease.pdf

Chronic Lyme Disease and Co-infections: Clinical Overview

Rebecca Snow, MS, Rh (AHG), CNS, LDN


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http://www.lymecommunity.com/forums/ubbthreads.php


Lyme Community Bulletin Board: RIFE machine - with lyme and TBD (tick-borne disease).


Very important to read this Book:

http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner


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In addition to the usual coinfections from ticks (such as babesia, bartonella, ehrlichia, RMSF, etc.), there are some other chronic stealth infections that an excellent LLMD should know about:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=069911#000000

TIMACA #6911 posted 03 August, 2008


I would encourage EVERY person who has received a lyme diagnosis to get the following tests.


- at link.

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Also, backing up a bit, even with confirmed lyme, some of the symptoms can be from intestinal worms. Clearing parasites and worms, if present, can be a tremendous help in the treatment of lyme, taking a huge stress off the body.


Gael may be along but she has lots experience with this area.

in the meantime, go to HUMAWORN at: www.humaworm.com

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Keebler, thank you for all of your concern and help.

I was acutely infected with Lyme& Babesia 3+ years ago and only given a short treatment of Doxy.

Three months later I had vertigo and swollen wrists and ankles which was written off by the local boob doctor.

Somehow I existed for the next year and a half never feeling quite right. All of a sudden my stomach got weird and after tons of tests I suddenly had GERD and Gastroparesis. They told me I was anorexic.

I got fed up and finally saw Dr. H in Hyde Park New York who put me on IV Rocephrin after I tested Igenix positive for Lyme & Babesia. I tried Mepron/Zmax but had to stop because it tore apart my stomach.

I was 5'10" and 109lbs.

Then I got blood sepsis and had the picc removed. I turned to the homeopath because I couldn't tolerate the antibiotics.

She is supposedly very well versed in Lyme treatment but has bounced me from one remedy to the next. The last one I was on was syph 30c but I stopped it because now I am reinfected with a new Lyme bug.

I went to a local infectious disease doctor who is not a moron and she gave me amoxicillin which so far my stomach is tolerating.

On Friday I will get the CDC test results and I think she is hoping they will be positive so she can put me on something for my chronic Lyme.

I am terrified of another picc line. I almost died. Worst week of my life.

In the meantime, the homeopath wants me to continue her remedies which in additon to the syph 30c are grapefruitseed extract and broccoli seed extract.

She also picked up that I have some sort of parasite and I don't know if that is the babesia or something else.

I tested equivocal twice for Strongoloydes and went through a treatment by my Gastroenterologist but everyone thinks it would be odd for me to have that in this country.

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wendihk..

.I tested equivocal twice for Stongoloydes. YOU ARE THE SECOND ONE ON THIS BOARD THAT I HAVE READ WHERE THE DOCTORS WERE IGNORING EQUIV OR POSITIVE TESTING FOR WORMS!!!

When are these medical prof. going to wake up to the fact we have PARASITES/WORMS in this country. This is what is causing degenerative diseases.

I can't stand this ignorance!! PLEASE, wendi don't ignore this.

Gael

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I very smart person I am acquainted with says Strongyloids are not nearly as rare as the medical community would believe.

He cured his but got no help form any doctor. I believe he ended up using a veterinarian medication.

He found them under his own microscope. He also has Lyme. He was not able to kill them with his powerful home made Rife machine. If he could not do it, I doubt anyone could.

Dan

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I actually went through the treatment for Strongoloydes and then tested equivocal again after the treatment!

I can't remember what it was that they gave me but it really wrecked my stomach.

It was actually the Gastoenterologist who diagnosed/treated me for it.

Has anyone else gone through the treatment and still tested equivocal?

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Wendi,

You need to do some research on parasites and worms. Usually if there is one type there are more even if they don't show up on the test.

Worms lay larva and eggs and if you don't kill them, the cycle starts all over again.

Also, a lot of people with lyme are co-infected with Filarial Worms. www.lymephotos.com

Please check the Humaworm thread that Keebler posted and read up on parasites. You have to empower yourself if you want to get well,

Gael

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Wendi,
I know a well known Lyme Disease specialist who does almost the same thing. I can't say who, but I can say that he is the creator of the Cowden Protocol. That should clarify. At any rate, a special device is used. The Rife Machine is sitting right next to me and is called a PFG2. A hand cradle is also purchased which plugs into the USB port of the computer -- just like the Rife Machine, and the physician can adjust frequencies and apparently identify which direction to take treatment simply by using a program he designed. My girlfriend has been doing the therapy and is having what appears to be Herxheimer reactions.

I consider it "far out" but the guy is very well known and my own specialist uses a lot of his treatments. The other issue is that the treatment she is giving you is similar to what my own Lyme Specialist is using in terms of supplements and antibiotics.

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What a laugh.

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If it walks like a duck, looks, like a duck, and QUAKS LIKE A DUCK.. ITS A DUCK DOC..

ppl make fun of us already, dont give the world more reason too..

maybe this doc should be turned in?

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Hey, maybe you can use the bionic 880 machine through the phone too, that way you wouldn't have to travel to Germany.

Or maybe if you don't have a telephone, the rife frequencies or photons could be emailed to you as an attached file?

Or you could have the practioner apply the machine to special detox foot pads that will store the magic energy, mail you the foot pads, then you strap them on for a lyme cure.

Once you've left the limitations and constraints of reality behind, the possibilities are endless.

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[lol] Funk, I'm just gonna go read all my "Get well soon" cards all over again. Maybe that'll do the trick!

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